Bounties are corruption.

[shadowtoken]

Advertisement is one thing, but making people spam positive things about something they have NO IDEA OF WHATSOEVER, by basically paying them, is something i haven't seen anywhere else before (Now that i think of it: fake reviews are popular).

It is disgusting and immoral. I guess it is no coincidence that this comes from a forum dealing with cryptocurrency. The number #1 choice of cybercriminals to do business. Shame on you.

As i have gathered in short time, advertisement spam was discussed and not permitted outside of signatures. What happened?

This is a rant and i do not expect anything to change, for people can be controlled with the power of the wealthy.

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[ShadowEra]

I give you a token to advertise in your signature.
That token is only worth the market value.
Wouldn't you want to help that market value increase?
It's much better to say a project is interesting to help it, than to spread lies to try to hurt it.

[shadowtoken]

I give you a token to advertise in your signature.
That token is only worth the market value.
Wouldn't you want to help that market value increase?
It's much better to say a project is interesting to help it, than to spread lies to try to hurt it.

You completely lost the sense of what's right and wrong.

This will be your fourth "crowdfunding" where money vanishes.

This time with convenient cryptocurrency and your boldest promise yet: doing absolutely nothing for it.

[LTU_btc]

That's a good point. It's bad when users is forced to post positive reviews about project to get payment for it. They can't show their real opinion if they want to get bounty. But it's question of users morale. What's the point of advertising a project if you don't believe in it's success? Only answer is money and greediness.

[shadowtoken]

That's a good point. It's bad when users is forced to post positive reviews about project to get payment for it. They can't show their real opinion if they want to get bounty. But it's question of users morale. What's the point of advertising a project if you don't believe in it's success? Only answer is money and greediness.

Couldn't agree more.

[ShadowEra]

An example of signature campaign rules, managed by the Legenday Sylon:

"Minimum 20 constructive posts per week. 18 posts per week + 2 posts in Token main thread per week."

There are no rules that they have to pump the token they are getting or must post positive reviews, just that they are active so that the advertising that is being paid for is being seen. If they join the campaign but then don't post anywhere, it's pretty useless as an advertisement.

This is completely fair, in my opinion.

[Pearls Before Swine]

An example of signature campaign rules, managed by the Legenday Sylon:

"Minimum 20 constructive posts per week. 18 posts per week + 2 posts in Token main thread per week."

There are no rules that they have to pump the token they are getting or must post positive reviews, just that they are active so that the advertising that is being paid for is being seen. If they join the campaign but then don't post anywhere, it's pretty useless as an advertisement.

This is completely fair, in my opinion.

Yeah I guess, except when the manager of QTUM wanted me to edit my post in the ANN thread where I stated that the only reason why I was posting was to bump the thread.  There was more to it than that, but my post was basically called QTUM bashing, which it wasn't.  I've been in some great campaigns run by Edwardard since then, and I've been positive in the ANN threads but not stupidly glowing. 

I'm basically neutral as far as that requirement is concerned now.  I agree with OP's point here, too.  People will do anything for bitcoin, and it's a bit sickening.

[MintCondition]

I still don't encounter any campaign that forcing their participants to post positive feedback for themselves. Most of the rules of the campaigns requires a "post" any post just to bump the ANN thread and there is no wrong with that as long as the post is not spam and related to the project itself.  Additional pointers. Advertisement is created for spreading positive feedback on the product that they are promoting. There is no promotion that spreads a negative feedback and that is the main reason why advertiser(signature campaign participants) are being paid for.

[coolcoinz]

That's a good point. It's bad when users is forced to post positive reviews about project to get payment for it. They can't show their real opinion if they want to get bounty. But it's question of users morale. What's the point of advertising a project if you don't believe in it's success? Only answer is money and greediness.

It's borderline, depends on what they have to do. For example, If you are asked to do a review for money it's completely fine. What about sponsored articles? What about articles that are only posted on the site with information that they weren't written by them? By law it's all fine because they're informing you that information contained could be inaccurate. Is it immoral? We all have our own morality when it comes to these things.

Users are never "forced" to do anything. They are taking money for advertising, and if they don't like it they can always refuse and/or switch campaigns. If they take the job, they're at risk of getting negative rating or a ban. Every time you take up on an offer you have to calculate the risk and decide if it's worth it.

[dillpicklechips]

Advertisement is one thing, but making people spam positive things about something they have NO IDEA OF WHATSOEVER, by basically paying them, is something i haven't seen anywhere else before (Now that i think of it: fake reviews are popular).

It is disgusting and immoral. I guess it is no coincidence that this comes from a forum dealing with cryptocurrency. The number #1 choice of cybercriminals to do business. Shame on you.

As i have gathered in short time, advertisement spam was discussed and not permitted outside of signatures. What happened?

This is a rant and i do not expect anything to change, for people can be controlled with the power of the wealthy.

That's why we should be wise in dealing information since not all that we read is correct since when we generalize it there are some false information spreading though internet. So as a wise person, you shouldn't get swayed easily and believe in the facts not other people's opinion or perspective since it is based on their personal judgement or they are just forced or need to do it.

[hilariousetc]

I still don't encounter any campaign that forcing their participants to post positive feedback for themselves. Most of the rules of the campaigns requires a "post" any post just to bump the ANN thread and there is no wrong with that as long as the post is not spam and related to the project itself.  Additional pointers. Advertisement is created for spreading positive feedback on the product that they are promoting. There is no promotion that spreads a negative feedback and that is the main reason why advertiser(signature campaign participants) are being paid for.

This should be disallowed because it's essentially a way around the one bump per 24 hours rule and they get to keep their page constantly at the top of the sub with everyone essentially bumping it.

Users are never "forced" to do anything. They are taking money for advertising, and if they don't like it they can always refuse and/or switch campaigns. If they take the job, they're at risk of getting negative rating or a ban. Every time you take up on an offer you have to calculate the risk and decide if it's worth it.

In some campaigns they essentially are. Campaigns such as FortuneJack 'force' people to have x amount of posts in the Gambling section or they wont get paid, hence why we have loads of shit threads discussing every possible league of sport in the world with the most of them started by FortuneJack users: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1713944

betcoin also offers premium rates for posts in the Gambling section so why would users waste their time posting in other sections?

[coolcoinz]

Users are never "forced" to do anything. They are taking money for advertising, and if they don't like it they can always refuse and/or switch campaigns. If they take the job, they're at risk of getting negative rating or a ban. Every time you take up on an offer you have to calculate the risk and decide if it's worth it.

In some campaigns they essentially are. Campaigns such as FortuneJack 'force' people to have x amount of posts in the Gambling section or they wont get paid, hence why we have loads of shit threads discussing every possible league of sport in the world with the most of them started by FortuneJack users: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1713944

betcoin also offers premium rates for posts in the Gambling section so why would users waste their time posting in other sections?

What I meant by "they aren't forced" is there are many campaigns and you know the rules before signing up, so they know that it's required to write a number of posts in gambling. Id they don't like it, there are campaigns without this requirement. The campaign is not at fault, but the users. If someone tells you to spam the shit out of a thread and you do it, who is to blame? People can tell you to do something, but you the final decision and responsibility is always yours.

[shadowtoken]

Users are never "forced" to do anything. They are taking money for advertising, and if they don't like it they can always refuse and/or switch campaigns. If they take the job, they're at risk of getting negative rating or a ban. Every time you take up on an offer you have to calculate the risk and decide if it's worth it.

In some campaigns they essentially are. Campaigns such as FortuneJack 'force' people to have x amount of posts in the Gambling section or they wont get paid, hence why we have loads of shit threads discussing every possible league of sport in the world with the most of them started by FortuneJack users: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1713944

betcoin also offers premium rates for posts in the Gambling section so why would users waste their time posting in other sections?

What I meant by "they aren't forced" is there are many campaigns and you know the rules before signing up, so they know that it's required to write a number of posts in gambling. Id they don't like it, there are campaigns without this requirement. The campaign is not at fault, but the users. If someone tells you to spam the shit out of a thread and you do it, who is to blame? People can tell you to do something, but you the final decision and responsibility is always yours.

No. The choice is an illusion.

We have regulations and politics to protect people from themselves. This is missing here. There are no consequences to online scams (icos).

Bounties here prey on desperate people who probably don't have real jobs. It's a form of modern day slavery.
It's not advertising. It's systematic misinformation with forced positivity.

I think this is in the back of the minds of everyone here but you are all so ignorant and greedy that you don't dare to talk about it.
The result is the perception of cryptocurrency as something that is shady and criminal. And rightly so.

[identifyuser]

Advertisement is one thing, but making people spam positive things about something they have NO IDEA OF WHATSOEVER, by basically paying them, is something i haven't seen anywhere else before (Now that i think of it: fake reviews are popular).

It is disgusting and immoral. I guess it is no coincidence that this comes from a forum dealing with cryptocurrency. The number #1 choice of cybercriminals to do business. Shame on you.

As i have gathered in short time, advertisement spam was discussed and not permitted outside of signatures. What happened?

This is a rant and i do not expect anything to change, for people can be controlled with the power of the wealthy.

U are right unfortunately.. Involvement in bounty companies leaves a nasty taste sometimes. Solve this problem can be "The Union of Bounty user"

[chutchmcgillicutty]

Advertisement is one thing, but making people spam positive things about something they have NO IDEA OF WHATSOEVER, by basically paying them, is something i haven't seen anywhere else before (Now that i think of it: fake reviews are popular).

It is disgusting and immoral. I guess it is no coincidence that this comes from a forum dealing with cryptocurrency. The number #1 choice of cybercriminals to do business. Shame on you.

As i have gathered in short time, advertisement spam was discussed and not permitted outside of signatures. What happened?

This is a rant and i do not expect anything to change, for people can be controlled with the power of the wealthy.

people just trying to make money man. just how the game works

[erikalui]

Advertisements in real life also work on this principle and whether immoral or not, all is considered to be a business. They don't force participants/brand ambassadors to post positive reviews ONLY but just promote their brand/product and yes, the ones promoting them can't talk negative about them. Some even post lies that they have used the product/service which is wrong while those just wearing the signature or logo cannot be considered wrong till the product/service is itself illegal/fraud. I've seen people posting positive fake reviews and that's wrong. Some even buy fake investors (such users should be tagged by DT members as that's openly supporting ICOs from committing fraud).

Edit: Just noticed that you've created the account to troll the shadow token thread 

[shadowtoken]

Advertisements in real life also work on this principle and whether immoral or not, all is considered to be a business. They don't force participants/brand ambassadors to post positive reviews ONLY but just promote their brand/product and yes, the ones promoting them can't talk negative about them. Some even post lies that they have used the product/service which is wrong while those just wearing the signature or logo cannot be considered wrong till the product/service is itself illegal/fraud. I've seen people posting positive fake reviews and that's wrong. Some even buy fake investors (such users should be tagged by DT members as that's openly supporting ICOs from committing fraud).

Advertisements don't work like this at all. There are strict regulations.

What bounty hunters post is 99% lies and positivity with 0 insight.

Your signature tells me everything i need to know about you. Gambling and betting. Ripping people off.

This forum is all about dishonest money making schemes.

[mikeoneal]

yes i think sometime bounties are corruption. when you see multiple users fight between them  for bounties ,you wondering if bitcointalk is the only place to get a cent.

[qiman]

I think if people post decent posts and replies it cannot be such a bad thing. Many people are relying on this income. When I had more time and was not in full time employment, I used to do translations in to Mandarin Chinese but now I have a full time job I mainly just post in the forum nowadays. I do believe one thing though, that the quality of people's posts should be checked and silly one liners or "AM JOINED TWITTER BOUNTY or "AM JOINED FB SUCCESS SIR", are not what I call quality posts at all. I know English is not everyone's first language but more care should be taken when posting, especially if people are getting some form of remuneration for it.