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July 25, 2017, 07:15:08 AM
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wouldn't trading you bitcoin for altcoins a few times be better then any  mixer ?Alot then times you be getting dirtier coins then the ones your trying to mix on then services  Grin

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July 25, 2017, 07:31:42 AM
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Yes, Bitcoin mixers are a must in the crypto market. Without them, Bitcoin would not be where it is today as it was used mostly for illegal transactions in the early days. These users needed a way to launder their coins to avoid being traced. Do not mix your own coins manually... it takes way too long and isn't as reliable as a professional mixing service.

Now, not all mixing is illegal. In fact, it is perfectly reasonable to want to mix your coins for a variety of reasons. I recommend ChipMixer as they are 100% FREE as opposed to the others who charge commissions.

   This is one of the most interesting comments in this thread. Your comment explained why bitcoin mixers are must in bitcoin market, and maybe its a bit stretch to connect bitcoin success with bitcoin mixers,
but I understand the point behind that. Now we are in different times I hope.
   I like to keep myself from everything illegal, except traffic tickets I never done anything wrong. I would not dare to share my opinion in this thread cause I never used bitcoin mixer, but thread headline is
is bitcoin mixer a must? I do not think that bitcoin mixers is something that we need to do, why would I need to do that? If I am honest, I earn with my effort and knowledge I will not have anything to hide.

wouldn't trading you bitcoin for altcoins a few times be better then any  mixer ?Alot then times you be getting dirtier coins then the ones your trying to mix on then services  Grin

   Research before you comment, there is similar threads about this matter and in most of them you can find that its too expensive to do this in the way you suggest it. You need to pay a lot of fees, and if amount is really
big you have some limits, so you can not do that instantly.



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July 25, 2017, 07:43:15 AM
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It really depends on you. If you want an extra use of security then you can avail on this type of service. I personally don't use mixers since my transactions are limited and doesn't really require it.
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July 25, 2017, 07:51:27 AM
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Depends if you need more anonymity than Bitcoin can offer. I use paper wallets for every transaction which makes mine harder to be tracked. Remember that you can see if an address is owned by a wallet and if you have a thousand addresses in one wallet, you can still be found out to be owning them. (Talking about Blockchain.info, for instance)
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July 25, 2017, 08:03:13 AM
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Well, I don't think that using a mixer would be required, since regular wallets that have multiple addresses are pretty safe and will make you hard to track, so there is really no need for it
When you use a regular wallet, the wallet will handle the addresses for you.  This does not mean that your transactions are 100% private.

Your wallet sends from multiple addresses.  When you send larger amounts of coins, like I occasionally have done, you are sending from several of your addresses at the same time.  And even if you use two different wallets to separate your identities, you are not private.  If you send to an exchange like Poloniex, to that deposit address from two places and then you withdraw to your own wallet, those two wallets are then linked together.

People are very naive about Bitcoin mixers in that they assume they are private anyway.  Governments, and often even normal individuals, have extremely good blockchain analysis tools.

If you want privacy, you either need to be competent in handling your addresses yourself, or if you want it to be easy then you use a mixer.

Mixers are not for everyone but they're not just for criminals.  If you hold a large amount, it's also to avoid criminals.
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July 25, 2017, 08:10:34 AM
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Do you think that it is a must for everyone to use a bitcoin mixer? Why and for what purposes?

I've never used a mixer, I don't find it useful.
If I don't reuse (much) the addresses I should be safe. If I want to hide anything I use anonymous currencies - in my case Monero - but actually I have nothing to hide.
I don't see why I should rely on an imperfect (and costly) solution like a mixer.

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July 25, 2017, 08:50:40 AM
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Not really if your transactions is a legal transactions then you don't need to used mixer, unless you are doing big transactions and you feel more secure to stay hidden so the hacker is not targeting yourself then you can used the mixer, if you are just used it for daily transaction and it is still a small transactions you don't need the mixer


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July 25, 2017, 09:34:45 AM
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No. Its not a must to use a mixer for daily to daily transactions but if you want to be anonymous and your transaction wants to be hidden for reason e.g. buying drugs in deepweb or senstive things, use mixer to hide your tracks but there are other ways to anonymous without paying a mixer service.
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July 25, 2017, 11:10:30 AM
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Not every one needs a bitcoin mixer.Only people who have huge sum of bitcoins and do higher value transactions fear of their security as any one could easily trace their transactions and also if they want to avoid paying huge amounts of taxes to governments.they use such services to mix their bitcoins to avoid being traced out.

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July 26, 2017, 05:43:23 AM
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No one is definitely not needed many hardware wallets have many addresses and it sends from multiple and you can request with a new one

That hardly protects your privacy. Bitcoin mixers are a must especially if you deal with sensitive and often illegal activities online. But for your general Bitcoin usage, it is not really needed.



But if somebody knows our bitcoin address, then he can watch us as long as we use the same wallet. This is really bothering for me. I couldn' find a solution rather than btc mixer.

That is the reason why we have HD wallets. Bitcoin addresses should not be used more than once if you want some protection on your privacy. But you really want to make sure, yes use a mixer or use an anonymous coin like Monero.

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July 26, 2017, 06:00:00 AM
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No one is definitely not needed many hardware wallets have many addresses and it sends from multiple and you can request with a new one

That hardly protects your privacy. Bitcoin mixers are a must especially if you deal with sensitive and often illegal activities online. But for your general Bitcoin usage, it is not really needed.



But if somebody knows our bitcoin address, then he can watch us as long as we use the same wallet. This is really bothering for me. I couldn' find a solution rather than btc mixer.

That is the reason why we have HD wallets. Bitcoin addresses should not be used more than once if you want some protection on your privacy. But you really want to make sure, yes use a mixer or use an anonymous coin like Monero.
well mixer serve its purpose when we don't want to risk our own wallet address as we knew that there's really still some risk from the eyes of
hackers and mixer are the best ways  to avoid them to notice our big transactions if we are doing it from time to time.
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July 26, 2017, 09:36:32 AM
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Almost everyone making online transactions thinks that using bitcoins would be a good way to stay anonymous. But the truth is bitcoin transactions are not really anonymous at all. All transactions are recorded and can be seen publicly through the blockchain. When you use your bitcoin to pay for goods and services online, you will need to provide some private information in some cases. This means that your transactions can be traced by a third party to find information. In order to avoid this from happening, bitcoin mixers provide services where your bitcoins are mixed with others to make it harder to be traced back from the original owner.

Do you think that it is a must for everyone to use a bitcoin mixer? Why and for what purposes?

I think it should be done by everyone. Because your data are private and belong to you and to you only.
It's a measure of security to your data and a great deal for your privacy, so what's against it? It's fairly simple to mix coins, so go for it!

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July 26, 2017, 03:10:16 PM
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There was some news earlier this year that mixers are now useless as the chainanalysis companies can see past them. So don't waste your time and bitcoin with them. If you need to anonymize bitcoin you should use an altcoin with an opaque blockchain.

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July 27, 2017, 01:49:20 AM
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No one is definitely not needed many hardware wallets have many addresses and it sends from multiple and you can request with a new one

That hardly protects your privacy. Bitcoin mixers are a must especially if you deal with sensitive and often illegal activities online. But for your general Bitcoin usage, it is not really needed.



But if somebody knows our bitcoin address, then he can watch us as long as we use the same wallet. This is really bothering for me. I couldn' find a solution rather than btc mixer.

That is the reason why we have HD wallets. Bitcoin addresses should not be used more than once if you want some protection on your privacy. But you really want to make sure, yes use a mixer or use an anonymous coin like Monero.
well mixer serve its purpose when we don't want to risk our own wallet address as we knew that there's really still some risk from the eyes of
hackers and mixer are the best ways  to avoid them to notice our big transactions if we are doing it from time to time.

But who are running the mixers? Can they be trusted? What if it was the hackers themselves who are running the mixers? Buyers and sellers of the dark markers should also be careful in trusting them because the people who are running them might be the government enforcers.

If I put my freedom at risk, I will not use a mixer.

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July 27, 2017, 02:23:53 AM
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A bitcoin mixer becomes necessary only when you have lots of bitcoins wit you and you don't want to be traced by any one to avoid threats.Also,it is needed if you are sending huge amounts of bitcoins and you don't want your transactions to be traced by governments to avoid being taxed.

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July 27, 2017, 02:30:43 AM
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Its not a must since not everyone needs it if its just a simple transaction where you just transfer coins from one address to another
Its a choice, since there are other ways to clean your coins like you can transfer your coins to exchangers but expect more fees than the fees mixers are charging you.
Its an option to those who live in a country where a local exchanger does not allow deposits coming from known HYIPs and Gambling sites.
I have some friends of mine and their account was canceled because they received BTCs from HYIPs and gambling sites.
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July 27, 2017, 03:21:01 AM
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I think not everyone should use a bitcoin mixer service. It depends on the person if he wants to make their bitcoin do not want to be known to others or personal reasons. Maybe some of those who use bitcoin mixers are criminals who do not want to make the bitcoin they stole is unknown where the address he sent.
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July 27, 2017, 03:31:36 AM
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Almost everyone making online transactions thinks that using bitcoins would be a good way to stay anonymous. But the truth is bitcoin transactions are not really anonymous at all. All transactions are recorded and can be seen publicly through the blockchain. When you use your bitcoin to pay for goods and services online, you will need to provide some private information in some cases. This means that your transactions can be traced by a third party to find information. In order to avoid this from happening, bitcoin mixers provide services where your bitcoins are mixed with others to make it harder to be traced back from the original owner.

Do you think that it is a must for everyone to use a bitcoin mixer? Why and for what purposes?

Bitcoin is pseudonymous. All transactions are permanently stored on blockchain and visible to everyone. It is possible to identify a person through their transaction history and this is where bitcoin mixers are useful, complete anonymity.

Now without any ulterior motive people use mixers to protect their anonymity. But mixers also serve illegal purposes like financial crimes including tax evasion, money laundering, fraud and then darknet crimes. Stolen bitcoins, ransomware, hackers use mixers to get rid of tainted coins.

And even using mixers isn't risk free, you have no idea who are behind centralized mixers, do they keep logs? If being anonymous is the purpose then it can be done even without mixers and if other purposes are involved then I think you need mixers.
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July 27, 2017, 08:31:08 AM
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When we use bitcoin for purposes that do not violate the law, it is not necessary to use bitcoin mixer. But when we use it for something that potentially to cause problems later on, gambling as an example, then bitcoin mixer is a must. As we know, gambling isn't a legal thing in many countries.
I agree why would you use bitcoin mixer when you are only doing simple transactions. Bitcoin mixing is the process of using a third party service to break the connection between a Bitcoin address sending coins and the address(s) they are sent to. Bitcoin mixer is only used by people who doesn’t want the entire world to know where they send and store their BTC, or from where they receive it. For some people bitcoin mixer is a necessity, people who work in Darknet Markets in particular. People who only do simple transactions don't need it however, if you feel unsafe about your transactions you are free to use bitcoin mixer.

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July 27, 2017, 12:51:41 PM
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No. Its not a must to use a mixer for daily to daily transactions but if you want to be anonymous and your transaction wants to be hidden for reason e.g. buying drugs in deepweb or senstive things, use mixer to hide your tracks but there are other ways to anonymous without paying a mixer service.
yes that is right that it is not must but we use it only to remain as anonymous. in fact it mix the addresses and then it become difficult for people to find out that from which wallet the amount has be sent and received.
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