BTC-e hacked ??

[E_1337]

So if we lose money I assume we can still make a case against USR (R = for robbery)

[E_1337]

Also let's show some appreciation to the fact that USSA failed in their mission to seize all funds. The only reason we get 55% back is because USA agents failed.

If there has been any doubt let me remind you all that USA is the world's biggest treat to freedom and liberty.

They are for years now they are to afraid that the USD position which is weak will get overtaken by any foreign power

[TheKoziTwo]

So if we lose money I assume we can still make a case against USR (R = for robbery)

I would say so. However the thugs in USSA has what is called "civil asset forfeiture" where the burden of proof lies on the victim. What this means in practice is that you need to prove source of funds, that it is legal and accounted for. It's going to be tricky for many, given the nature of cryptocurrencies. Unless you have tracked every single transaction from A -> Z your "proofs" may not be enough.

It's likely you'll need to engage an expensive US lawyer as well, I kind of doubt they will open any sort of "claim" process. This is a very practical way to steal funds from low resource individuals or just unfortunate souls who's been enjoying the freedom of cryptocurrencies to not account for every step they make.

[LLLTTTCCC]

Hmmmm KYC, AML....

I didnt register my BTC-e acc under my real name. Nor the email address my BTC-e acc is based on. This means im now f***ed?

[TheKoziTwo]

Hmmmm KYC, AML....

I didnt register my BTC-e acc under my real name. Nor the email address my BTC-e acc is based on. This means im now f***ed?

Nobody had to enter name.

[cryptomole]

So if we lose money I assume we can still make a case against USR (R = for robbery)

I would say so. However the thugs in USSA has what is called "civil asset forfeiture" where the burden of proof lies on the victim. What this means in practice is that you need to prove source of funds, that it is legal and accounted for. It's going to be tricky for many, given the nature of cryptocurrencies. Unless you have tracked every single transaction from A -> Z your "proofs" may not be enough.

It's likely you'll need to engage an expensive US lawyer as well, I kind of doubt they will open any sort of "claim" process. This is a very practical way to steal funds from low resource individuals or just unfortunate souls who's been enjoying the freedom of cryptocurrencies to not account for every step they make.

I actually did register with btc-e under my real name & verified both btc-e & xbtce with kyc docs.
I can show a clear audit trail of funds to exchange.
What I cant show is my profits as I dont have access to my trade histories.

[LLLTTTCCC]

Hmmmm KYC, AML....

I didnt register my BTC-e acc under my real name. Nor the email address my BTC-e acc is based on. This means im now f***ed?

Nobody had to enter name.

Well for registration there was surname and name

[cryptomole]

I got verified and provided kyc as mostly coins were cheaper to buy on btc-e than elsewhere - so made sense from a funding perspective.

[TheKoziTwo]

Hmmmm KYC, AML....

I didnt register my BTC-e acc under my real name. Nor the email address my BTC-e acc is based on. This means im now f***ed?

Nobody had to enter name.

Well for registration there was surname and name

Well, I didn't have to enter name when I registered, but perhaps they changed it in the later years.

From 2012:


Here is a screenshot from June 2017:

[donalddump]

No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.

Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?

[cryptomole]

No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.

Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?

They need our documents to comply with kyc & aml legislation

[bananax]

No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.

Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?

The solution for you is simple, don't participate and you don't have to worry.

[donalddump]

No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.

Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?

They need our documents to comply with kyc & aml legislation

What legislation?

They will not work with fiat meaning they do not need kyc & aml.

They do not intend to pay the fine meaning they are doing another trick to escape the law.

They do not share any information about the real owners.

And after all this they want to comply kyc legislation?

It's very strange to say at least.

[donalddump]

No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.

Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?

The solution for you is simple, don't participate and you don't have to worry.

No I don't have to participate.

I was naive once to put my coins on a shady exchange, I won't be naive twice to send my documents to some unknown company registered in panama or something like this with a capital of 100 pounds.

What I can do is contact a lawyer and I will only send them my documents if the court of law will decide I have to.

[gnurta]

No I don't have to participate.

I was naive once to put my coins on a shady exchange, I won't be naive twice to send my documents to some unknown company registered in panama or something like this with a capital of 100 pounds.

What I can do is contact a lawyer and I will only send them my documents if the court of law will decide I have to.

You can simply contact the US government. They have like 45% of btc-e's funds now. Just provide them with necessary documents and I'm sure you can receive back what is rightfully yours.

[JoeMue]

What do they have (USD):
- 143 million Ether (wallet 0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6)
- 6 million LTC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?LMiB7oeBTMdwZg8VKjcCiguseodYYaixLP.htm
- 6 million PPC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ppc/address.dws?PJoTa6ScCbtP23aJfDUg88do79t14FWUXW.htm
- 13 million small coins (i saw some wallets coming by, i think they all were like 4-5million per coin.
- 100 million BTC (There should have been at least the same amount in Bitcoin as in in Ether so to be on the save side put it at 100 million)
- 10 million BTC Cash (10% of BTC)
- Lost 110 million fine
That totals 388 million at least. so it can't be 45% loss in that case. (110/388=28% loss)

These were the BTC-e cold wallets before mixing started:
https://blockchain.info/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt
https://blockchain.info/address/19QzVvFZbHV4gcvmSYw3yup5RaBXgMeXay
They have at least 132.000 coins. This is more than 400 Million US$ + another 40 Million US$ in BTC Cash. They could easily pay the fine
with the winnings they made in the last 2 weeks by just holding the coins. There is for sure enough coins/fiat to refund everybody, but...
what can you do? KYC/AML is just a hazzle to keep even more coins. I am pretty sure the head of BTC-e ends up being a billionaire.

Well, that's the game. Verification is no problem for me... they got my data anyway, because I once lost my password. So I will get
a few bucks back. I hope each one in this forum will get his/her coins, too. Good luck everybody!

[MAbtc]

No fiat processor will work with them, they will not work under BTC-E brand meaning they do not intend to pay the 110 mil fine, their company is registered on a 20 yo person with a capital of 100 pounds.

Why do they need our documents? To open bank accounts on our names or another fictive companies for their scams?

They need our documents to comply with kyc & aml legislation

What legislation?

They will not work with fiat meaning they do not need kyc & aml.

They do not intend to pay the fine meaning they are doing another trick to escape the law.

They do not share any information about the real owners.

And after all this they want to comply kyc legislation?

It's very strange to say at least.

At a glance, it seems like good news, but I agree that this is puzzling and worrisome. Surely the launch of any new brand will have the same target on its back. I'm guessing the reason for KYC is to deter some darknet participants from claiming any funds, thus improving their balance sheets. I suppose this might already be priced into any proposed investment deal.

But handing over documents in this situation (even with completely legitimate funds from trading only) doesn't feel very good...

[jojo69]

You can simply contact the US government. They have like 45% of btc-e's funds now. Just provide them with necessary documents and I'm sure you can receive back what is rightfully yours.

[TheKoziTwo]

What do they have (USD):
- 143 million Ether (wallet 0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6)
- 6 million LTC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?LMiB7oeBTMdwZg8VKjcCiguseodYYaixLP.htm
- 6 million PPC https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ppc/address.dws?PJoTa6ScCbtP23aJfDUg88do79t14FWUXW.htm
- 13 million small coins (i saw some wallets coming by, i think they all were like 4-5million per coin.
- 100 million BTC (There should have been at least the same amount in Bitcoin as in in Ether so to be on the save side put it at 100 million)
- 10 million BTC Cash (10% of BTC)
- Lost 110 million fine
That totals 388 million at least. so it can't be 45% loss in that case. (110/388=28% loss)

These were the BTC-e cold wallets before mixing started:
https://blockchain.info/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt
https://blockchain.info/address/19QzVvFZbHV4gcvmSYw3yup5RaBXgMeXay
They have at least 132.000 coins. This is more than 400 Million US$ + another 40 Million US$ in BTC Cash. They could easily pay the fine
with the winnings they made in the last 2 weeks by just holding the coins. There is for sure enough coins/fiat to refund everybody, but...
what can you do? KYC/AML is just a hazzle to keep even more coins. I am pretty sure the head of BTC-e ends up being a billionaire.

Well, that's the game. Verification is no problem for me... they got my data anyway, because I once lost my password. So I will get
a few bucks back. I hope each one in this forum will get his/her coins, too. Good luck everybody!

Client money != Profit.

When client BTC goes up in value, they don't make any profit on client funds. They make $0.

You also forgot one small detail: Before they can pay the fine they must spend up to 55 years in jail.

[YesLOST]

Where I can unload all the shitcoins they will give me for my 55% fiat?

I mean nvc, nmc, ppc.

Any good exchanges?