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July 25, 2017, 08:57:14 PM |
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But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed
This is a fallacious argument. Bitcoin Cash is a 1:1 fork of Bitcoin because they believe that Bitcoin should have bigger blocks, and therefore they believe that Bitcoin holders should be able to use a Bitcoin fork that has bigger blocks. Anyone could create a brand new coin with bigger blocks, but they need Bitcoin holders to access their BCC using the same private key. Anyone can create one of these stupid spinoff coins at any time, but they're not successful for obvious reasons.
True. All that matters is whether the coin has backing from the economic majority. But I do think that one of these could be successful, if they had the right objectives - BCC does not. It's shocking how people are quick to jump into what people say without doing a little bit of researching themselves, being that naive is not a good thing in the business world.
Who are you insulting here?
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July 25, 2017, 08:59:29 PM |
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How many chances of Forking? Any rough idea if we want to know the %? Thanks.
The chances of forking are 100%. You shouldn't give it much attention though, It's going to be dumped in a matter of seconds as every BTC holder will have BCC as well and almost everyone here is with SegWit, no one is going to use that BCC. I have a feeling that we are over-estimating the support for SegWit. The BCC is supported by some of the big names, and they have the capability to swing at least some of the miners to their side. So I wouldn't confirm on overwhelming support for SegWit, before I see it for real on August 1. So all I am saying is that, don't put so much trust on the "intentions". One have to really stupid not to see what those big names try to do. To make tons of money on crypto community. They can swing as many miners as they want if the community does not accept the coin. Again, why would I hold a BTC copycat whose only purpose is to help Roger Ver and a few immensely rich guys to become even richer. No fucking way. now, you are helping other rich guys too. you have to be blind if you don't see that 2 gangs are fighting for supremacy "the community"(sheep) will follow the miners and exchangers. there are some lunatics who are thinking that they can change the world with their slogans (no gov, no bank, bla bla). in the end, money/cash talks. the smart ones will keep their mouth shut and they will make money with this fork. all day you can read on this forum " fork is good, fork is not good. that person is a shit, that person is a god" . are you nuts? LOL this is a BUSINESS, it's MONEY. wake up ! BTC is just an e-currency; sooner or later it will disappear. speculate as much as you can and talk less because it's useless anyway. I don't think I m the one who s nuts. It s not about their money. It s about OUR money and the entire crypto community. If this fork would become so successful, guess how long it would take for another genius to attempt the same. Then again, then again. Now tell me, why would I, as a long time crypto investor and supporter, want something like this? Why would I want to have 17 different variations of BTC? Isn't the whole purpose of blocking technology to provide immutability? So, yes, I can say those who don't see this and would support BCC are nuts. You re obviously one of them.
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July 25, 2017, 09:04:45 PM |
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You are the great individual that everyone is targeting right i mean the people who are against the core,i have heard some things about you in some of the speeches i heard in the conferences and i guess you have collected a lot of enemies in the mean time. I think there will be more spin offs by August and lets see who is going to be successful in the end.
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Bitcoin Guy
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July 25, 2017, 09:27:30 PM |
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If they accomplish a fork, good for them.... that's great accomplishment and all.
But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed, and they need the Bitcoin brand to make money off their new Alt-coin. That is all. Bitcoin Classic 4 Lyfe.
They have to stop capitalizing Bitcoin. Using "Bitcoin" in their name creates confusion and fear that could depress the price of Bitcoin. I am wondering how the price of Bitcoin will be affected? If so unfortunately that BCC get more miners support than expected, there could be a decent price drop. If Bitcoin forks on Aug 1st, what will happen to BTC? Would the price get reduced by the value of the new BCC? Do the current BTC holders who have their bitcoins in the hard wallets get two types of coins? A lot of questions, but only one hope - the hope that the Bitcoin price will go up and not get diluted by any forks.
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July 25, 2017, 09:27:56 PM |
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Does it matter? we all knew with a bit of cash and a few kids behind desktops, you could create your own chain of exchanges, your own coin, trade and have your own community, but one thing no body could have is BTC ticker and a global support. If you trade a coin on only a few exchanging services while not every single exchanging services in the world are supporting it giving it the name of BTC then you clearly are an idiot. How many copies of Bitcoin you want me to create for you? no need for me to do it they are all over the place. where is the longest chain(main chain)? The entire world only knows BTC, now it doesn't matter if you are Trump trying to launch a new alt, you can't have the same longest chain and same ticker.
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July 25, 2017, 09:35:24 PM |
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At the moment i've read BCC is quoted about 0.2BTC. I think is really really high price, don't think it will stay at these rates, many people will dump and it will be like many other shitcoins. Don't understand all this hype about BCC, probably people are happy because if they hold BTC they will have some "free" BCC.
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July 25, 2017, 09:42:23 PM |
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If they accomplish a fork, good for them.... that's great accomplishment and all.
But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed, and they need the Bitcoin brand to make money off their new Alt-coin. That is all. Bitcoin Classic 4 Lyfe.
decentralised as it is. no one in control. coin holders all get benefits. buy one get one or maybe two free. wonderful Bip!
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July 25, 2017, 09:45:40 PM |
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Yes it is true and they want to make money out of their old mining hardware which can't mine bitcoin so they will just use those old ones to mine there new shit coin and dump it in the market.
I'm not sure if they even need to pull out their old mining hardware. You don't need to fight for hash power if you're the only one mining!
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July 25, 2017, 11:14:16 PM |
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If they accomplish a fork, good for them.... that's great accomplishment and all.
But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed, and they need the Bitcoin brand to make money off their new Alt-coin. That is all. Bitcoin Classic 4 Lyfe.
Say this is like ask why people don't create their own nations instead of try to change the system
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drachman
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July 25, 2017, 11:20:04 PM |
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Of course it is, if their project was so good they could try to start one from scratch like many other coins have tried and that have become somewhat successful on their own, they are only using bitcoin fame to try to earn some bucks.
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number37
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July 25, 2017, 11:22:32 PM |
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they will be able to fork, yes it is an altcoin trying to borrowing the name of the bitcoin, there are a few around, there's a bitcore? does similar things.
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July 25, 2017, 11:35:19 PM |
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No. It's just a fork. The market will decide what they prefer as the main bitcoin implementation.
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skorupi17
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July 26, 2017, 01:17:52 AM |
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If they accomplish a fork, good for them.... that's great accomplishment and all.
But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed, and they need the Bitcoin brand to make money off their new Alt-coin. That is all. Bitcoin Classic 4 Lyfe.
Well, as long as it is not the classic Bitcoin we know, then it is a altcoin regardless if it is from the original chain of Bitcoin. I think that they really want to create a new coin just like Bitcoin but they want to implement improvements to it. However, since Bitcoin is tied on the community and they do not have the right to do some changes, they resorted on having fork. Nonetheless, Bitcoin Classic will still reign.
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iram1011
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July 26, 2017, 01:38:17 AM |
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If they accomplish a fork, good for them.... that's great accomplishment and all.
But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed, and they need the Bitcoin brand to make money off their new Alt-coin. That is all. Bitcoin Classic 4 Lyfe.
The most credible explanation I can come up with is that it is a publicity stunt by ViaBTC and no more Exactly, everyone is going to dump BCC. This is not more than a publicity stunt. Now Roger Ver has came in the picture and supporting BCC. He is favouring BCC simply because Bitcoin Unlimited is now facing an uphill struggle for recognition.
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jt byte
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July 26, 2017, 01:39:31 AM |
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I do not think they will succeed in that they are trying to accomplish after the segwit proposal passes through. We will all see.
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btc_angela
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July 26, 2017, 01:45:46 AM |
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If they accomplish a fork, good for them.... that's great accomplishment and all.
But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed, and they need the Bitcoin brand to make money off their new Alt-coin. That is all. Bitcoin Classic 4 Lyfe.
The most credible explanation I can come up with is that it is a publicity stunt by ViaBTC and no more Exactly, everyone is going to dump BCC. This is not more than a publicity stunt. Now Roger Ver has came in the picture and supporting BCC. He is favouring BCC simply because Bitcoin Unlimited is now facing an uphill struggle for recognition. Exactly and no one wants a copy cat. Bitcoin is the original and will remain as is. Those individual who are really behind this are nothing more than a person who is greedy, and wants to control what is decentralized to begin with. I think it will die a natural death without people noticing it. Bitcoin may be flawed from the very beginning, but I don't think that this split will just patch and resolved the issue. They are just riding on the popularity of bitcoin, but I don't think they will succeed.
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July 26, 2017, 01:53:44 AM |
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How many chances of Forking? Any rough idea if we want to know the %? Thanks.
The chances of forking are 100%. You shouldn't give it much attention though, It's going to be dumped in a matter of seconds as every BTC holder will have BCC as well and almost everyone here is with SegWit, no one is going to use that BCC. Indeed. It is not even asking how much percentage of fork is to happen as it is worthless. The most dangerous fork that we should be worried about is yet to come in the November. The soft fork as idea of segwit is well accepted by everyone and BCC will fall in no time. Let's hope for the things to happen in that way only. The fork 100%. (Dumb idea).
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July 26, 2017, 02:32:13 AM |
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Those bigblockers are all beeing played by Roger and Jihan.
They're like rats leaving there sinking ship to another sinking ship.
They shit on Bitcoin while XT was the best thing ever..
They shit on Bitcoin while Classic was the best thing ever..
They shit on Bitcoin while BU was the best thing ever..
They shit on Bitcoin while NChain was the greatest thing ever..
Few weeks ago Bitcoin ABC was the greatest thing ever while shitting on Bitcoin..
Now those noobs shitting on Bitcoin while Bitcoin Cash is the greatest thing ever..
Pathetic!
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iamTom123
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July 26, 2017, 02:41:49 AM |
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If they accomplish a fork, good for them.... that's great accomplishment and all.
But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed, and they need the Bitcoin brand to make money off their new Alt-coin. That is all. Bitcoin Classic 4 Lyfe.
It is really about time that these people and what they are really planning be exposed to the public so they can not anymore create fear and push many scenarios that can affect the real Bitcoin. They all have the freedom to introduce any coin that they want but it should not be at the expense of the real Bitcoin. Just adopting the name Bitcoin will not masked their real intentions. Now, this can all be about money, after all. I always hate to think that there are people in the Bitcoin community who are only thinking after what they can get regardless of what are the possible consequences. Anyway, let's just watch what can be on and after August 1...the day we will always remember.
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