Stunna (OP)
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July 26, 2017, 04:10:35 AM
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 On July 24th, Primedice staff were made aware of a phishing website attempting to trick users into depositing into an investment version of the website. We took immediate action into sending abuse complaints to the DNS registrar and server host. Upon inspection of the phishing website, we found that the SSL certificate used was shared by other domain names including paradice.io and kingdice.io. After some further investigation, we found that four domains used the exact same cloudflare nameservers, which is a very unlikely coincidence. These domains were paradice.io, kingdice.io, primedice.co and the domain registered for phishing, bitcointalk users have previously linked paradice.io to primedice.co ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18510402#msg18510402). Primedice staff were able to find cached google and bing results for the phishing domain, which show the website title as “PARADICE | One Step Ahead! - Bitcoin Dice Game..” Primedice also found a google result which shows that both paradice.io and the phishing url have the same overall website structure, in the Google result image below, you can see ajax requests are sent to /content/ajax/unprotect_url.php?_unique=token, the exact same way the paradice.io website works. Adding to this, the phishing url reports Apache as the webserver, paradice.io has this field hidden, but it is clearly an Apache error page that shows up. Furthermore, paradice.io has been found to lift assets directly from Primedice in the past, including the favicon, and faq text. Not surprisingly their website isn't provably fair either. Update: Reports were successful, now both Paradice and the phishing website are down. More details:;; QUESTION SECTION: ;xn--prmedice-ukb.com. IN NS ;; ANSWER SECTION: xn--prmedice-ukb.com. 86400 IN NS fay.ns.cloudflare.com. xn--prmedice-ukb.com. 86400 IN NS rob.ns.cloudflare.com. ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;paradice.io. IN NS ;; ANSWER SECTION: paradice.io. 86400 IN NS rob.ns.cloudflare.com. paradice.io. 86400 IN NS fay.ns.cloudflare.com. ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;kingdice.io. IN NS ;; ANSWER SECTION: kingdice.io. 86400 IN NS rob.ns.cloudflare.com. kingdice.io. 86400 IN NS fay.ns.cloudflare.com. Primedice.co http://archive.is/75DEzKingdice.io http://archive.is/thcwmParadice.io http://archive.is/DYV75Phishing domain http://archive.is/FNRud  http://archive.is/o8lGvhttp://archive.is/HBwODhttp://archive.is/Tv0Ofhttp://archive.is/X56fU |
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moooonu
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July 26, 2017, 04:32:02 AM |
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No surprise that site is just a scam. It were already a few scam accusations on the site. Good to see him busted like this.
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Roboabhishek
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July 26, 2017, 06:22:42 AM
Last edit: March 07, 2018, 08:43:23 PM by Roboabhishek |
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No surprise that site is just a scam. It were already a few scam accusations on the site. Good to see him busted like this.
To be honest, I didn't expect this from them, They looked so promising and honest and after their 1 scam accusation was resolved I was sure they will not do anything wrong to cause someone harm. But you can't deny the proof Stunna has offered. Edit: after some research, i don't think this proof is enough to call out paradice did it. As you can see kingdice is also on that list. |
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stingers
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July 26, 2017, 07:02:00 AM |
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what a huge letdown. I've had a few bets on paradice.
You've offered pretty promising proof, paradice is at fault here. Awaiting their explanation to this accusation (if they have any).
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blo8i
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July 26, 2017, 07:04:16 AM |
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As far as I read their website it is fair. I mean their algorithm for creating bets is more than fair.
But this.. is more than I expected. What I recomend to Stunna is to get in touch with owner of paradice and try to solve this problem even if they need to buy the domain.
This is only against primedice users and destroying the image of primedice or kingdice.
There is no way to atack them legally. For sure the owner is not using his identity if he is doing such pushing websites. I really atack this website for doing this and they should be removed from this forum or the name paradice to be seem as spam.
Till that moment try to fix this issue, a topic on bitcointalk wont affect them from stealing gamblers money.
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Roboabhishek
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July 26, 2017, 07:36:38 AM |
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Lol just because I worked for their campaign I am their alt? You yourself got -4 and I have no idea how can you even accuse someone being in that state without any proof. He scam me and my friend, don't pay and ban..
Also my friend MafiaCoin was been banned on this forum (because he post about paradice.io is scam)
You mean your alt mafia coin ? |
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blo8i
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July 26, 2017, 08:19:33 AM |
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As I understand from you I see that dicendice is an idiot and most probably a scammer.
About user robo even me that i am not so active in the gamble area I see he is always present in Paradice topic.
For sure they are not the same person because even if you have a shitty casino you will never wear a signature. But I strongly believe he is a friend or an employee of Paradice owner.
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Bitinity
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July 26, 2017, 08:27:16 AM |
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LOL banned from this forum because he accused paradice as scammer? That does not make any senses. Anyway it is intersting finding by Stunna, curious to know how paradice defending themselve about this fact. |
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Roboabhishek
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July 26, 2017, 08:43:23 AM
Last edit: July 26, 2017, 05:56:52 PM by Roboabhishek |
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As I understand from you I see that dicendice is an idiot and most probably a scammer.
About user robo even me that i am not so active in the gamble area I see he is always present in Paradice topic.
For sure they are not the same person because even if you have a shitty casino you will never wear a signature. But I strongly believe he is a friend or an employee of Paradice owner.
Yea that's true. Suppose you are in the signature campaign of bitvest in case they scam you will not be blamed for it do you ? " I am not saying bitvest is scamming just taking as an example " After their website was released then they said that they want to run a signature campaign on this forum and I asked them if I can manage it. I got a reply in 4 hours and got paid in advance so it was hard for me to believe that they will scam as they always paid me in time to manage their campaign . And it was my job to stay active on paradice thread as I was paid for it nothing more. But I want to hear from them what happened. Regarding this thread. |
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milewilda
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July 26, 2017, 01:47:21 PM |
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LOL banned from this forum because he accused paradice as scammer? That does not make any senses. Anyway it is intersting finding by Stunna, curious to know how paradice defending themselve about this fact. This is the interesting part on how they would defend such very obvious proofs from stunna. what really a shame on such actions came from paradice. I have heard this site wayback before but knowing that it has issues then it turns out to be shaddy since from the start. |
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ParaDice.io
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July 26, 2017, 02:31:59 PM |
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We're solving this accussion/problems really soon.
Also our website will be available again within short time, faster and more stable then ever.
It is not fair to tell people that we would "phishing Primedice users", we never did that and never will do so!
We respect Primedice and it's leaders, but why are you tryn to ruin our fresh startup like that? Also earlier in our mainthread we had the same discussion already, now putting it into the crowd with no reason?
As mentioned in our mainthread, we've had bought some domains from start-up (primedice.co as example) which redirects to our site for SEO purposes.
Also, what you did there is called a Nameserver-lookup and it shows various domain-names related with those Nameservers you searched for. It is showing all sites from cloudflare that are using this nameserver-combination, which doesn't mean that this are all our's.
Primedice reported our site to Cloudflare and they claimed that we were "phishing Primedice users", therefore Cloudflare has blocked our Domains for security review.
best regards, Casimir -Paradice.io |
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RHavar
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July 26, 2017, 03:12:39 PM |
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We respect Primedice and it's leaders, but why are you tryn to ruin our fresh startup like that?
...because you ran multiple sites designed to steal money from people, while targeting PrimeDice's customers. As mentioned in our mainthread, we've had bought some domains from start-up (primedice.co as example) which redirects to our site for SEO purposes.
Even ignoring the fact that's not even ethical in itself, it's bullshit. You were hosting phishing sites and trying to scam people into investing. Also, what you did there is called a Nameserver-lookup and it shows various domain-names related with those Nameservers you searched for. It is showing all sites from cloudflare that are using this nameserver-combination, which doesn't mean that this are all our's.
You didn't even deny it. Also the fact that your site and all the phishing sites went down when cloudflare took action is pretty strong evidence that you operated all of them. |
Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of. |
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Stunna (OP)
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July 27, 2017, 02:58:33 AM |
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We're solving this accussion/problems really soon.
Also our website will be available again within short time, faster and more stable then ever.
It is not fair to tell people that we would "phishing Primedice users", we never did that and never will do so!
We respect Primedice and it's leaders, but why are you tryn to ruin our fresh startup like that? Also earlier in our mainthread we had the same discussion already, now putting it into the crowd with no reason?
As mentioned in our mainthread, we've had bought some domains from start-up (primedice.co as example) which redirects to our site for SEO purposes.
Also, what you did there is called a Nameserver-lookup and it shows various domain-names related with those Nameservers you searched for. It is showing all sites from cloudflare that are using this nameserver-combination, which doesn't mean that this are all our's.
Primedice reported our site to Cloudflare and they claimed that we were "phishing Primedice users", therefore Cloudflare has blocked our Domains for security review.
best regards, Casimir -Paradice.io To be clear we reported the phishing website to cloudflare NOT paradice. Paradice simultaneously went down which further proved that you were running the phishing sites. |
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Patatas
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July 27, 2017, 02:47:46 PM |
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To be clear we reported the phishing website to cloudflare NOT paradice. Paradice simultaneously went down which further proved that you were running the phishing sites.
Glad it worked! Any chances you could omit the results from Google search too ? Because it is still showing in the google results However,the site is taken down. Had the known about this ? IMHO,they deserve a negative if they were still managing a campaign when they knew the site is phishing PD. As mentioned in our mainthread, we've had bought some domains from start-up (primedice.co as example) which redirects to our site for SEO purposes.
You don't run a phishing site for the SEO purposes.You can go to Jail for that. |
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Lone Shark
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July 27, 2017, 05:18:27 PM |
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I would just like to say to all, I told you so.
Also to Roboabhishek, you dumb-ass who keeps on protecting your "legit" employers!
Even yahoo gives up an employer if they turn into a scam! You are a reluctant to admit and accept back then when my scam accusation was still open that they are a scam! Tsk. Now better go wipe your ass with what you said.
To Paradice, go away scammers. You all know what you are doing, stop defending yourselves and just shut down your scam site!
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michkima
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July 27, 2017, 05:47:19 PM |
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And I really thought these guys were doing it straight.  I have a question though. How were they able to get hold of primedice's domain? From the screenshot of the phising site it says there clearly that it was "invest.primedice.com" and not a ".co" domain. Can someone just create a subdomain of a domain they don't control? |
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Roboabhishek
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July 27, 2017, 06:23:48 PM |
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I would just like to say to all, I told you so.
Also to Roboabhishek, you dumb-ass who keeps on protecting your "legit" employers!
Even yahoo gives up an employer if they turn into a scam! You are a reluctant to admit and accept back then when my scam accusation was still open that they are a scam! Tsk. Now better go wipe your ass with what you said.
To Paradice, go away scammers. You all know what you are doing, stop defending yourselves and just shut down your scam site!
Better watch what you say about me !! I know you intentionally tried to rip my reputation in your thread and then deleted every reply I made on your thread when I asked for loan.. anyways i got loan from Darkstar. I did want to bring everything on this thread coz this thread is not for that. On the other hand ... Employee ? are u retarded kid or what? I worked for their campaign till they had neutral feedback. Also, The scam accusation you made I never said you are a liar !!! I just said that could be a bug like I faced a few times on Primedice but my balance was not affected But never said you lied or anything related to that better see it again. But you arrogant kid want to fight for small things when someone shares their views with you one which you disagree. |
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July 27, 2017, 06:56:23 PM |
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At the beginning of the emergence I'm not sure about paradice.io and i do not need to find out more about their site, i will leave it as soon as possible. This thread really made me feel lucky to have left them quickly.
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Roboabhishek
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July 27, 2017, 07:27:43 PM |
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At the beginning of the emergence I'm not sure about paradice.io and i do not need to find out more about their site, i will leave it as soon as possible. This thread really made me feel lucky to have left them quickly.
Well, i am happy for you and for me as we both left. For me, it's the 1st time that it happened and I will never be able to trust anyone on the internet after this incident. |
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Lone Shark
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July 27, 2017, 07:31:28 PM |
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I would just like to say to all, I told you so.
Also to Roboabhishek, you dumb-ass who keeps on protecting your "legit" employers!
Even yahoo gives up an employer if they turn into a scam! You are a reluctant to admit and accept back then when my scam accusation was still open that they are a scam! Tsk. Now better go wipe your ass with what you said.
To Paradice, go away scammers. You all know what you are doing, stop defending yourselves and just shut down your scam site!
Better watch what you say about me !! I know you intentionally tried to rip my reputation in your thread and then deleted every reply I made on your thread when I asked for loan.. anyways i got loan from Darkstar. I did want to bring everything on this thread coz this thread is not for that. On the other hand ... Employee ? are u retarded kid or what? I worked for their campaign till they had neutral feedback. Also, The scam accusation you made I never said you are a liar !!! I just said that could be a bug like I faced a few times on Primedice but my balance was not affected But never said you lied or anything related to that better see it again. But you arrogant kid want to fight for small things when someone shares their views with you one which you disagree. My loan thread has nothing to do here, I deleted your post coz it is spammy. I asked you to do one thing (ie signing a simple ass message) and you couldn't. How would I even rip your reputation there? Also there are logs that it got deleted by the way. You know for yourself that you defended these scumbags in multiple threads and not just my scam accusation but also in their ANN and one of their games and rounds thread. Again, I reiterate, you can even check the trustpage of Yahoo, who returned the escrowed funds for a scam ICO. They returned it to the investors and they turned in their employers. In your case, what did you do? You continue to support their claims, say they were innocent, and bla bla fanatic supporter bs. If you were for justice, then you could have done the same as Yahoo. Indirectly, you still supported your scammer friends at paradice. How was I arrogant in my scam accusation? Also take note, I never did even talk arrogant in my accusation, in fact they were the first ones to be hostile in that thread. 10mbtc was nothing, what I wanted was that these scumbags get closed down ASAP. Now look at where we are now. If we had these scammers closed the very moment I found their shitty way of running things then we could have avoided this kinds of steps they did. Like what you are advertising, another gambling site that clearly was proven before scammed a player, and now you are also still supporting another one. Clearly talks great about you. |
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