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June 21, 2011, 07:35:41 AM
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How can you people have not seen this yet???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0XvP841jaM&feature=player_embedded#at=925

Watch his reaction at 15:25 to being asked if the hacked account belonged to him. Shock, panic then damage control! If the account that was compromised didn't belong to him why wouldn't he have strongly denied it?? Can anyone think of ANY REASON why they wouldn't deny it if it wasn't true?

Do you see what this means??

MtGoxs account is the one that got hacked not some innocent user like they are acting.
They are deciding to roll back so they are saved.
Their own security f&*(ups caused this mess and they are making anyone who traded during that time pay for their mistake.

WTF! Do they think they can get away being the one who decides how to reimburse themselves when their own account gets hacked while lying about what they're doing??

Customers of MtGox make them respond to this! They say they are trying to help innocent users but the only one they are helping here is themselves and they're lying about it!

I dont have any money with MtGox but I dont want them to break the market just to undo their sloppy coding and pretend it was a good thing.
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June 21, 2011, 07:41:11 AM
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MagicalTux =  Mark Karpeles = Owner of MtGox.
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June 21, 2011, 07:45:00 AM
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That is exactly what I'm trying to say!

It wasn't some unrelated user who lost 500000btc, the account that was compromised belongs to him.

Look when the interviewer asks if the account is HIS, and how nervously he replies? This explains what's going on completely. He lost his own money and is trying to get it all back before people catch on.
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June 21, 2011, 07:45:29 AM
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Although it will be a lot of work to do so, it should be possible to prove or disprove this claim by examining the transactions that let the money into the account. The alternate claim is that the account belonged to an early adopter, which is a much easier claim to test.

ETA: This gives me a great idea. We need a block explorer on steroids that can provide sophisticated summaries of the history of the money that goes into and traces the history of the money that goes out of an account or transaction. (Is it old money? Is it new money? Did it all come from one account? Did it go into multiple accounts soon after that? Has it been held for a while? Or is it high-velocity money?)

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June 21, 2011, 07:52:27 AM
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Look when the interviewer asks if the account is HIS, and how nervously he replies? This explains what's going on completely. He lost his own money and is trying to get it all back before people catch on.


What are you, Fox News?
Currently your entire argument is based on a reaction to a question.

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June 21, 2011, 07:55:12 AM
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Look when the interviewer asks if the account is HIS, and how nervously he replies? This explains what's going on completely. He lost his own money and is trying to get it all back before people catch on.


What are you, Fox News?
Currently your entire argument is based on a reaction to a question.
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June 21, 2011, 07:57:23 AM
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June 21, 2011, 07:58:32 AM
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im not convinced.  Undecided
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June 21, 2011, 07:59:56 AM
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~yawn~

Stop with your random posts :\
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June 21, 2011, 08:00:16 AM
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Your website just suffered a massive breach. You're telling people that it was some random customer account that got compromised, and you're trying to help by fixing it. Someone asks you "It's not YOUR account,right?" How do you answer that question??? What possible reason would you have for not saying "of course not. I can't say who owns the account, but its not us!"

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June 21, 2011, 08:08:31 AM
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It's obvious that this is troll thread.
Oh, let me explain: MagicalTux -> uses GNU/Linux systems exclusively -> very unlikely affected by any trojan -> not his account hacked.
-> judging on people's face, arguing it proves anything
-> /thread
-> TeddyJames totally discredited
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June 21, 2011, 08:09:41 AM
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It's obvious that this is troll thread.
Oh, let me explain: MagicalTux -> uses GNU/Linux systems exclusively -> very unlikely affected by any trojan -> not his account hacked.
-> judging on people's face, arguing it proves anything
-> /thread
-> TeddyJames totally discredited

You obviously know nothing about linux.
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June 21, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
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if it was my account i wouldn't be saying shit- then you just open yourself up to this sort of nonsense. that person doesn't want their name known for good reason= to avoid stupid conspiracy posts about themselves..... not everyone loves drama and attention.

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June 21, 2011, 08:14:17 AM
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The current theory is that SQLI was used to artificially add BTC to an already compromised account (because the same SQLI allowed a dump of the database).
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June 21, 2011, 08:17:47 AM
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so, he looked panicked? and? what if it isnt his account and hes panicked b/c his exchange is falling apart?

i just dont think the look on someones face makes very compelling evidence.  Undecided
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June 21, 2011, 08:18:48 AM
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Interesting. I did a research in facial expressions (Lightman style) and non verbal communication.
I am still studying the FACS (Facial Action Coding System, developed by the "real lightman" Paul Ekman) and I'm planning to get my certificate.
I'll analyze later Mark's facial expressions for you guys.

I gotta go by now.
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June 21, 2011, 08:20:43 AM
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It's obvious that this is troll thread.
Oh, let me explain: MagicalTux -> uses GNU/Linux systems exclusively -> very unlikely affected by any trojan -> not his account hacked.
-> judging on people's face, arguing it proves anything
-> /thread
-> TeddyJames totally discredited

You obviously know nothing about linux.

A properly secured Linux box is very hard to break -- especially when it's designed to be a desktop and not a server.
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June 21, 2011, 08:24:25 AM
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Interesting. I did a research in facial expressions (Lightman style) and non verbal communication.
I am still studying the FACS (Facial Action Coding System, developed by the "real lightman" Paul Ekman) and I'm planning to get my certificate.
I'll analyze later Mark's facial expressions for you guys.

I gotta go by now.

there are some genetic markers of "lying" genes, get his DNA for a full truth profile, it would be more conclusive.

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June 21, 2011, 08:28:23 AM
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Interesting. I did a research in facial expressions (Lightman style) and non verbal communication.
I am still studying the FACS (Facial Action Coding System, developed by the "real lightman" Paul Ekman) and I'm planning to get my certificate.
I'll analyze later Mark's facial expressions for you guys.

I gotta go by now.

there are some genetic markers of "lying" genes, get his DNA for a full truth profile, it would be more conclusive.

lol there isn't such thing
I can detect certain lies, I have more skills detecting emotion based deception than the other types.
But in certain cases they might be enough.
I promise I'll be back later with a full blown analysis, right now I am too sleepy to do anything.

Cya later
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June 21, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
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I have a theory in that bitcoins sold werent all real. Sure the bitcoin system cant double spend. But in the end Mt Gox trades on its own platform, which is just a site in SQL and code (ie. PHP) like most others. Such a site could be hacked in such a way that the traded bitcoins were not backed by actual bitcoins.
Explains why so many bitcoins were traded while no one account should have had that much.

Allthough that does require more/different hacking then a usertable that is found on the streets (so to say). Except if that usertable also included a admin password. But still possible.
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