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July 28, 2017, 12:38:34 PM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?
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July 28, 2017, 12:40:51 PM
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Why would people want to buy more because it's "new"?
Do you see any new altcoins being priced higher than Bitcoin?

BTC will of course have a much much higher value than BCC, because it's the original blockchain.
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July 28, 2017, 12:50:50 PM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?
Why would the new one would gain more value than the older ,
Let's just put ethereum as an example have you ever seen the Ethereum classic become more expensive than Ethereum?
The older one would be the one who would gain more value because the people trust it more than the new one.

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July 28, 2017, 01:12:54 PM
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The coin with the majority miner consensus will have the most value.

say 90% of miners choose the segwit upgrade, that will be Bitcoin, the other 10% choose some other upgrade, that would likely be BCC(Bitcoin Cash).

Since BCC is being given out at a 1 to 1 ratio to everyone who owns BTC, there will be a sudden influx of supply of like 14 million BCCon the market, expect it to crash for awhile. Too many people will be selling.
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July 28, 2017, 01:13:40 PM
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I will not pray split should happen but if it happens I think the coin with higher miner will get the high support. I believe what happened with ethereum and etheruem classic will happen again. BTc and Bcc, I think NYC will get the high price and BBC is going to face the same Dance of ethereum classic
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July 28, 2017, 01:21:06 PM
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it's not and never has been a split. get that straight at least.

i think it's gonna take longer to play out than people predict, but bitcoin cash will never be higher than it is now is my guess.
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July 28, 2017, 03:06:29 PM
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it's not and never has been a split. get that straight at least.

i think it's gonna take longer to play out than people predict, but bitcoin cash will never be higher than it is now is my guess.

Well, there still a little bit chance to happen that split. And it will happen in the 1st year maybe just like bitcoin that will grow the price in the future. This may be the opportunity to buy or invest!

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July 28, 2017, 03:26:54 PM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

I think bitcoin because it still holds the original name.

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July 28, 2017, 04:50:53 PM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?
Why would the new one would gain more value than the older ,
Let's just put ethereum as an example have you ever seen the Ethereum classic become more expensive than Ethereum?
The older one would be the one who would gain more value because the people trust it more than the new one.

Wrong example. Ethereum Classic stayed true to the original idea, while Ethereum was the forked one.
In any case, it doesn't matter which is valued more. Current bitcoin holders will have equal quantities of both.
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July 28, 2017, 06:23:33 PM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?
BTC (Segwit2x) = Major chain
BCC (bitcoincash with larger blocks) = Minor chain because only few miners are backing them. BCC is just another bitcoin clone or another altcoin that will be only listed as altcoin in most of the trading platforms.
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July 28, 2017, 07:20:01 PM
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Bitcoin will obviously have more value than Bitcoin Cash, there are only a few mining companies that are planning to support BCC chain, I am predicting a price crash on BCC once it goes live on trading exchanges, traders would just dump it fast before the price goes crashing to the bottom.

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July 28, 2017, 09:50:31 PM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

sorry but this question should not be asked,it's just a little stupid
if you're asking about who will be 'the winner' in term of value between Bitcoin aka 'BTC' and Bitcoin Cash aka 'BCC/BCH'.
BCC created because of chain split,that mean BCC created based on BTC or we called it Clown (oh sorry Clone).
BCC/BCH already catagorized as an altcoin,that mean it's an alternative coin and from that name we can see who is 'the winner' in term of value.

if you look closely,many people trying to buy more Bitcoin in order to get more Bitcoin Cash but the main point is not they're considering it as an asset but they took this as an opportunity to get profit from their Holding,just imagine it 10BTC in your cold storage will be 10BTC+10BCC in a few days.
just holding it for a few days they will get profit from it,and what will happen after fork ? yeah we may be can see another decline or may be not.
but BCC? there'll be a huge dump after pump.

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July 28, 2017, 10:17:36 PM
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Bitcoin will obviously have more value than Bitcoin Cash, there are only a few mining companies that are planning to support BCC chain, I am predicting a price crash on BCC once it goes live on trading exchanges, traders would just dump it fast before the price goes crashing to the bottom.
From what I know Bitmain will support BCC and this company alone will be enough to single handled change the name of the game.
I expect if miners really follow the idea of forking alternative chain then we will see the same scenario which happened before to Ethereum.
The main chain will take everything while side chain will be forever overshadowed and will simply exist in the background.
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July 28, 2017, 11:59:21 PM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

This should be obvious at this point. Of course the original one will have more value over the clone or new one. Since Bitcoin Cash will be considered as an altcoin when it came to existence, it will be priced lower than Bitcoin just like all the altcoins out there. I doubt that BCC will not have more supporters that Bitcoin have.
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July 29, 2017, 01:11:46 AM
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Right now if those big whales cash out their money from Bitcoin it will crash, whatever big investors are investing in will be a successful crypto currency.
I doubt any body with $5B at stakes in Bitcoin would switch to some other coin, so price wont change that much.

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July 29, 2017, 01:52:37 AM
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Bitcoin will obviously have more value than Bitcoin Cash, there are only a few mining companies that are planning to support BCC chain, I am predicting a price crash on BCC once it goes live on trading exchanges, traders would just dump it fast before the price goes crashing to the bottom.

You are confusing cause and effect. MIning companies will decide which coin to mine, depending on the price of each coin. Support of the miners won't determine price.

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July 29, 2017, 03:01:22 AM
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Bitcoin will obviously have more value than Bitcoin Cash, there are only a few mining companies that are planning to support BCC chain, I am predicting a price crash on BCC once it goes live on trading exchanges, traders would just dump it fast before the price goes crashing to the bottom.

You are confusing cause and effect. MIning companies will decide which coin to mine, depending on the price of each coin. Support of the miners won't determine price.

In the end, it's still profitability that determines choices. Isn't that ironic for a supposed decentralized economy.

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July 29, 2017, 03:06:17 AM
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i hope price btc after fork is down to 1$ Wink Cry
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July 29, 2017, 03:09:49 AM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?
BTC (Segwit2x) = Major chain
BCC (bitcoincash with larger blocks) = Minor chain because only few miners are backing them. BCC is just another bitcoin clone or another altcoin that will be only listed as altcoin in most of the trading platforms.

FYI : bitcoin won't split in two different coins, only one bitcoin and another is just an altcoin, BCC.
I will vote for BTC segwit not segwit2x because segwit has more support than segwit2x obviously, look at https://coin.dance/blocks ; segwit BIP141 gain more than 99% support. Of course miners (majority) will signaling for segwit or bitcoin, not bcc.
After fork, bitcoin price may drop back to $2300 but I doubt fall below $2200 as segwit will be implemented on November.
The first and original option was proposed by the Bitcoin Core development team. Their SegWit code, defined by BIP141, activates if 95 percent of hash power within a single difficulty period of about two weeks signals readiness before November 15th.
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July 29, 2017, 03:15:05 AM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

i think after fork BTC is still BTC and price of BTC will not change, BCC which we call new BTC just a new altcoin like all other altcoin
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July 29, 2017, 03:27:29 AM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

you are missing the most important factor: the free airdrop.

what you said could have been true IF this new coin with less support was a separate chain with no 15.4 million coins premined ready to be dumped.
right now this "low support" is what will kill it. imagine 16.4 million bitcoin wanting to be sold or at least 10 million of it. and sold to an orderbook that can not even handle 5000 BCC sold into. that means the low support coin will simply die and get dumped hard.

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July 29, 2017, 03:45:44 AM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?
Yes, people become so crazy last couple of days, selling alts in loss and buying BTC thinking they will get BCC after split. After Segwit, you will never see alts at these prices.

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July 29, 2017, 02:16:50 PM
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I am sure, though it has been divided by fork. Bitcoin prices will remain high. And panicked sellers will feel a little disappointed, because benefits they achieve are not optimal.


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July 29, 2017, 02:30:52 PM
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The best option to save your bitcoins is to pause for a few days. This stabilizes the price and stop the division. Miners and users will be forced to unite in order not to lose everything. I'm not afraid of August 1. All fears are vain. They only make you do rash acts.
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July 29, 2017, 02:59:15 PM
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

The first week will decline, but in the second week it will experience a slight increase almost towards the first week, so that's how the price of bitcoin after HF later
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July 29, 2017, 03:42:07 PM
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The best option to save your bitcoins is to pause for a few days. This stabilizes the price and stop the division. Miners and users will be forced to unite in order not to lose everything. I'm not afraid of August 1. All fears are vain. They only make you do rash acts.
Don't be afraid my friend, on the first place we can't know what happen after segwit. There's a possibility that bitcoin price was increase or decrease above our expectations. Moreover maybe we need to trust in bitcoin and how they can handle the situation.
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July 29, 2017, 03:53:51 PM
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The Bitcoin price will increase after fork. The reason being what all uncertainty is left would be over after fork. There wouldn't be any negative speculations left and all the FUD will end. This will increase investors confidence in Bitcoin more and hence the price.
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

i think after fork BTC is still BTC and price of BTC will not change, BCC which we call new BTC just a new altcoin like all other altcoin

Btc is still btc, but a new and developed Btc. So I think it changed a little bit and it's price will also change after the day of forking. The new altcoin, BCC will be a great altcoin, I think, because it has some features that may be an attraction to users. We will see that after the forking.
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

By the way, bitcoin core will be higher value, BCC is just a new currency, people do not have high demand for it, it takes a long time to be noticed.





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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

sorry but this question should not be asked,it's just a little stupid
if you're asking about who will be 'the winner' in term of value between Bitcoin aka 'BTC' and Bitcoin Cash aka 'BCC/BCH'.
BCC created because of chain split,that mean BCC created based on BTC or we called it Clown (oh sorry Clone).
BCC/BCH already catagorized as an altcoin,that mean it's an alternative coin and from that name we can see who is 'the winner' in term of value.

if you look closely,many people trying to buy more Bitcoin in order to get more Bitcoin Cash but the main point is not they're considering it as an asset but they took this as an opportunity to get profit from their Holding,just imagine it 10BTC in your cold storage will be 10BTC+10BCC in a few days.
just holding it for a few days they will get profit from it,and what will happen after fork ? yeah we may be can see another decline or may be not.
but BCC? there'll be a huge dump after pump.

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You nailed it sir.
Bcc will always be just a copy cut of what's the original, btc.
And it will be an altcoin like the others.
I dont know why many are buying btc just to get some free bcc.

Even though bcc wil push through by the minority it will never be a success as it only gain few support from the community and the strong support of community is a big factor of success in every coin.

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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

By the way, bitcoin core will be higher value, BCC is just a new currency, people do not have high demand for it, it takes a long time to be noticed.

   Same will happen like with eth, I read about it here. I was interested about it and I checked that split a bit closer, eth after split rocket high,
but eth classic stayed where it is with little oscillations. I noticed a big diversity in peoples speculations and predictions about this alt-coins,
it is hard to put it in few words, but some people are optimistic in success of both of this coins.
   I will speak about what I saw in last two weeks, bitcoin price cause of something started to fall, many people here say it cause of fear of 1
august, and panic selling. Week ago price recovered and started to rise, looks like everything is prepared for 1 august the first and after tension
we can see price rising.



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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?
i think after fork BTC is still BTC and price of BTC will not change, BCC which we call new BTC just a new altcoin like all other altcoin
Certain group of people pushing this with BCC would also like to see BTC crashing. I would like to know how any free coin which will appear in your wallet, can endanger BTC? BCC is going down to drain - immediately, when show up on exchanges!  Sell of will be epic!
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By the way, bitcoin core will be higher value, BCC is just a new currency, people do not have high demand for it, it takes a long time to be noticed.

Bitcoin as it is right now will just keep growing further once we're past certain obstacles that till this day are still holding it back. BCC is an altcoin that deserves a very high spot on the shitcoin list. The only reason for people to be excited about BCC, is because of the fact that 'free money' rolls into their pockets without doing anything. It's certain that at the first stage there will be thousands of people looking to get rid of their BCC's (rightfully so), where obviously the extremely poor orderbooks have no liquidity to eat through all the dumps. I personally will prefer to keep waiting till the initial dumping fest has stopped, because I want to get the most out of this (at this point still potential) opportunity. If the time is right, I'll convert all BCC's to BTC, and have everything directly sent to my cold wallets. Smiley
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?
i think after fork BTC is still BTC and price of BTC will not change, BCC which we call new BTC just a new altcoin like all other altcoin
Certain group of people pushing this with BCC would also like to see BTC crashing. I would like to know how any free coin which will appear in your wallet, can endanger BTC? BCC is going down to drain - immediately, when show up on exchanges!  Sell of will be epic!
I can sure the happens panic selling BCC will happening after distribuite, because not have anyone want their "free coin" falldown to some dollars per coin. But maybe after that time, the price of crypto on market will falldown too or just have some altcoin can stand still in that time. This is my predict after August 1st.
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I plan to dump my BCC right off the bat. Could care less about it's future.
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The best option to save your bitcoins is to pause for a few days. This stabilizes the price and stop the division. Miners and users will be forced to unite in order not to lose everything. I'm not afraid of August 1. All fears are vain. They only make you do rash acts.
Don't be afraid my friend, on the first place we can't know what happen after segwit. There's a possibility that bitcoin price was increase or decrease above our expectations. Moreover maybe we need to trust in bitcoin and how they can handle the situation.
That's right sir, we don't know what happen after fork. But in my opinion I think prices of bitcoin and altcoins were decrease. Why? Because if the segwit happen, there's a possibility that all transactions in our wallet were increase. And if it is happen charges were gonna less in our income or else charges were transfer to the shoulder of users, especially in signature campaign payments.
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Bitcoin as it is right now will just keep growing further once we're past certain obstacles that till this day are still holding it back. BCC is an altcoin that deserves a very high spot on the shitcoin list. The only reason for people to be excited about BCC, is because of the fact that 'free money' rolls into their pockets without doing anything. It's certain that at the first stage there will be thousands of people looking to get rid of their BCC's (rightfully so), where obviously the extremely poor orderbooks have no liquidity to eat through all the dumps. I personally will prefer to keep waiting till the initial dumping fest has stopped, because I want to get the most out of this (at this point still potential) opportunity. If the time is right, I'll convert all BCC's to BTC, and have everything directly sent to my cold wallets. Smiley

I'm definitely not going to be doing anything. BCC price will be interesting to follow, but purely out of curiosity. I am just hoping BTC weathers through what's undoubtedly going to be heavy movement. Once that happens and the dust moves on to other forks, I'll have a look at BCC and see if it's worth anything. I won't have anything much to make a difference really.

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I plan to dump my BCC right off the bat. Could care less about it's future.

I'm in the same boat, no point in keeping a useless altcoin. Just scared there won't be any buyers in which care the price would be too low to even care about.
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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

BTC and BCC. That's the result of the division. Despite being split, bitcoin is still bitcoin, so BTC will carry higher value, BCC is just a new direction, it needs more time to achieve good value.

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If btc is split in two different coins on August,which one going to have more value?The coin with lesser support because it will be new people may want to buy more or is it the bitcoin with major support in terms of hashing power?

BTC and BCC. That's the result of the division. Despite being split, bitcoin is still bitcoin, so BTC will carry higher value, BCC is just a new direction, it needs more time to achieve good value.

Unless BCC's increased blocksize bring a significant advantage over BTC's Segwit, even time won't help. Without proper differentiation from other alt coins, it will be hard for BCC to stay (become?) relevant. But who knows, maybe Segwit will turn out to be a huge mistake after all and we'll be glad to have a backup coin of sorts.

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It is crazy if someone thinks that BCC will have a higher value than BTC. We do not have any basis to confirm it, BCC is just a weak currency.
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After bitcoin split we dont no what coin will increase but if that happen itsbetter to buy that two coin because possible price of that coins increase. But I dont linke bitcoin split I want bitcoin still bitcoin.
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After bitcoin split we dont no what coin will increase but if that happen itsbetter to buy that two coin because possible price of that coins increase. But I dont linke bitcoin split I want bitcoin still bitcoin.

Here is mentioned already but let mentioned it again. Which new coin is better and more valuable then bitcoin. Answer none. So if splitting is the purpose of creating a new coin then ok. Will this coin be better then any other in market then no. I dont see anything that will bring something new, but in top of price many predict it will go far beyond 3000 I will agree on this but price wont be sudden as most expect think that first will come disappointment cuz price didnt reach 3000 then in few weeks we will see price reaching desired target and passing it.



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After bitcoin split we dont no what coin will increase but if that happen itsbetter to buy that two coin because possible price of that coins increase. But I dont linke bitcoin split I want bitcoin still bitcoin.

Here is mentioned already but let mentioned it again. Which new coin is better and more valuable then bitcoin. Answer none. So if splitting is the purpose of creating a new coin then ok. Will this coin be better then any other in market then no. I dont see anything that will bring something new, but in top of price many predict it will go far beyond 3000 I will agree on this but price wont be sudden as most expect think that first will come disappointment cuz price didnt reach 3000 then in few weeks we will see price reaching desired target and passing it.


We can expect this bitcoin value to this much value in this year end but now it will not happen at all. Coin spliting proposal happened in the sense then definitely, price will move down to 1000$ or even low also. My answer is we need to wait and conclude the it.

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July 31, 2017, 03:44:10 PM
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This is a type of question which can't be speculated the price should have fallen because of fork but now we see the opposite this can be people wanting the free bitcoin cash but still not sure how far can the price grow
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July 31, 2017, 05:09:16 PM
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It is crazy if someone thinks that BCC will have a higher value than BTC. We do not have any basis to confirm it, BCC is just a weak currency.

I think in the near future, the BCC price will lower than bitcoin, maybe 10 to 20%. If there is more support, the price could be even higher.
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July 31, 2017, 05:17:50 PM
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This is a type of question which can't be speculated the price should have fallen because of fork but now we see the opposite this can be people wanting the free bitcoin cash but still not sure how far can the price grow
Yes true and this is a unique fact because despite the many negative issues about bitcoin but in fact the price of stable bitcoin even looks up. I'm sure bitcoin users have gotten the best way to overcome hard fork.


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July 31, 2017, 07:02:24 PM
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It is crazy if someone thinks that BCC will have a higher value than BTC. We do not have any basis to confirm it, BCC is just a weak currency.

I think in the near future, the BCC price will lower than bitcoin, maybe 10 to 20%. If there is more support, the price could be even higher.

I dont think so. Like any other coin this will be alt. And we know from past that no alt is near bitcoin in price or in anything else.
He might be there for month max but after that i think it will be less valued then ETH. Creating this for me was mistake or for someone opportunity to earn some quick bitcoin in exchange.



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July 31, 2017, 07:57:37 PM
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It is crazy if someone thinks that BCC will have a higher value than BTC. We do not have any basis to confirm it, BCC is just a weak currency.
I think it will have the same fortune like ETC, you can see that ethereum classic came with the fork of ethereum and the price of ethereum is higher than the ethereum classic. I am also sure that the price of bitcoin will be higher than the bitcoin cash. But still it depend on the demand of the people that if they will adopt it higher then its price will increase while not if they will not like to adopt bitcoin cash.
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July 31, 2017, 09:55:09 PM
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We can all see that as the market value of Bitcoin keep on increasing ($2900) and that bitcoin cash (BCC ) kept on decreasing that is how it will continue. The market value of Bitcoin will not only touch $3000 this time, but will pass and at the same time form strong support at $3050.
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