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Doctors have warned that plans for "brutal " NHS cuts are shrouded in secrecy and will cause uproar once revealed.

The British Medical Association (BMA) says health service leaders have refused to publish details of the proposals that could extend waiting times, reduce access to services, cut down on prescriptions and treatments, and even merge or close hospitals and facilities.

The proposals are being discussed under the capped expenditure process, which was introduced this year to cap NHS spending in some areas in order to meet so-called "control total" budgets in 2017-18.

The BMA submitted Freedom of Information requests to NHS Improvement and each of the 13 areas, asking for the proposal documents.

Eight of the 13 areas responded but, according to the BMA, none of them provided the full document or any significant details.

BMA council deputy chairman Dr David Wrigley said: "These plans could have serious consequences for doctors working on the frontline and for the care and treatment patients receive and can expect in hospitals and GP surgeries in these areas.

"It is bad enough that brutal cuts could threaten the services, but it is totally unacceptable that proposals of this scale, which would affect large numbers of patients, are shrouded in such secrecy."

He added the Government should stop and think before pressing ahead with the process.

Speaking anonymously to the BMA, one trust chairman with oversight of the process of drawing up the plans in his area, said: "We were descended on and asked to think the unthinkable in no time at all. The NHS seems to go into a zone of secrecy as an automatic reaction.

"That's the thing that really upsets me—the secrecy of it all and the ridiculous pace in which solutions are to be crafted and agreed. It's the management culture too, it's all hierarchical power and bullying. Even the most modest proposals would cause uproar."

An NHS spokesman said: "While this report is just recycling old claims from several months ago, the NHS has always had to live within the budget that Parliament allocates, and the usual requirements for public consultation on any suggested major service reconfigurations of course continue to apply.

"However, it is grossly unfair if a small number of areas in effect take more than their fair share at the expense of other people's hospital services, GP care and mental health clinics elsewhere in the country."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/doctors-bma-warn-brutal-nhs-cuts-government-a7863831.html

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More fuel for the capitalism versus socialism economic debate.

If this is true, the details could have a strong influence on the healthcare discussion in the US.

This is the first time I've heard of the UK or any nation with socialist run healthcare planning to scale back operations on a massive scale.


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Unfortunate to hear. Working in the US healthcare sector I often assume a rosy picture of the UK system but in reality it seems that all healthcare systems are dealing with very significant challenges that require fairly bold solutions. The US is still light years away from having the drug pricing controls you have in the UK.

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just like guns, i learnt a long time ago that there's no point talking to americans about healthcare. there's a blind spot there that'll never be cured. the american government spends more per head than most countries with health free at source yet still people die or go bankrupt because they can't afford the bills.

at the same time i'll guess these cuts are because of the lack of respect nhs users and providers have for public money. they never seem to figure out that ultimately it's their money and their neck on the line when they charge $1000 for ten toilet rolls.
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February 24, 2018, 03:41:39 AM
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Be it US , UK , or any other democracy it's the same everywhere.
Government hides things that could cause them to loose appreciable amount of money .
That's something that's going on since long before ..
One cannot get taken aback from a news like this because this is what's going on since centuries ..
Also I doubt the new president of the US too no offense on any body .. but haven't seen him working .. nicely
The only option people have is to oppose .!
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Unfortunate to hear. Working in the US healthcare sector I often assume a rosy picture of the UK system but in reality it seems that all healthcare systems are dealing with very significant challenges that require fairly bold solutions. The US is still light years away from having the drug pricing controls you have in the UK.

That is true about drug pricing. Recently however there has been talk of making greater efforts to support and introduce generic drugs in order to upset those patent based monopolies some big pharma corps have. Also a better effort to reduce the degree to which people like Martin Shkreli can buy up stockpiles of drugs to give themselves price hiking monopolies over certain markets.

just like guns, i learnt a long time ago that there's no point talking to americans about healthcare. there's a blind spot there that'll never be cured. the american government spends more per head than most countries with health free at source yet still people die or go bankrupt because they can't afford the bills.

at the same time i'll guess these cuts are because of the lack of respect nhs users and providers have for public money. they never seem to figure out that ultimately it's their money and their neck on the line when they charge $1000 for ten toilet rolls.

I'm an american who will discuss healthcare or guns with anyone.  Smiley

The problem with universal healthcare is, there is no competition to bring healthcare prices down. The state runs everything and there's no incentive for them to run things more efficiently. Rather there is considerable pressure for them to run things in an inefficient manner as this enlarges the profits of hospitals, medical equipment manufacturers, doctors and whoever else within the status quo model of wealth redistribution to the wealthy which is often systemic in state run programs.

The problem with healthcare in the united states is, there is also no competition. Everything is centralized and monopolistic on a state by state basis. Like universal healthcare, there isn't the type of inter state competition in american healthcare for prices to come down or innovation to be made.

Really, there's no point in arguing about healthcare is bad everywhere and eventually people will realize that the media has misled and misinformed them as to what the important or relevent issues are.

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