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May 11, 2014, 11:03:32 AM
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The boxes of signatures for Transnistria's joining Russia were confiscated from Rogosin's plane.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/375644

Romania seeks explanation for Rogosin's Twitter comment regarding his flight being blocked by Romania, that next time he is going to fly in TU-160
http://echo.msk.ru/news/1317788-echo.html


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May 11, 2014, 11:53:49 AM
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The boxes of signatures for Transnistria's joining Russia were confiscated from Rogosin's plane.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/375644

Romania seeks explanation for Rogosin's Twitter comment regarding his flight being blocked by Romania, that next time he is going to fly in TU-160
http://echo.msk.ru/news/1317788-echo.html


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And you know what those declarations triggered in Romania
People who couldn't care less about the whole urk-ru-crimmea stuff starting posting message I'm ashamed to even copy paste them

Actually the news about his declaration made the top most commented news in some papers in less than 6 hours. And this with heavy moderation and comments renewals.

But most of them are circling around "next time come and do us a bl*".

Honestly i haven't seen readers so enraged not even on the last 15% wage cut.
Whatever support was in .ro for the Russians (as i wrote before we love them as much as the americans) has gone down the drain.

Btw , our response was just as idiotic:
"How much vodka did he drink before saying that" , by T . Basescu.


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May 11, 2014, 12:53:32 PM
Last edit: May 11, 2014, 01:07:20 PM by Nemo1024
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Well, I agree that it was not the most intelligent comment that a politician could have made in such a delicate question, so I can see why Romanians are enraged.

On the other hand, Romania should not have gotten involved. This was between Russia and Moldova, and the feud over Transnistria has been going on for some time. A bit of reporting from RT (I'll quote some statement that caught my attention the most):

Stuck in rogue airspace: Moldova seizes Transnistria petitions from Russian delegation jet
http://rt.com/news/158164-moldova-rogozin-airspace-romania/

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“Moldovan secret services on-board our plane are confiscating boxes with Transdniestrians’ signatures for reunification with Russia,” Russian Deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin tweeted.

These documents, according to Rogozin, were transferred to him by activists during his visit to Tiraspol for Victory Day celebrations.

“Yesterday we received signatures that were handed to us by activists of the Union of Russian Communities,” the Deputy Prime Minister added.

Shouldn't he have some immunity from searches? On the other just recently the Bolivian president's plane was force-landed and searched for Snowden...

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The Moldovan authorizes were able to seize the documents after the plane carrying Russian politicians was forced to land in Chisinau after both Ukraine and Romania restricted its airspace to the Russian Rusjet Yak 42.

On Saturday, Rogozin tweeted that Romania closed its airspace “at the request of the US.” Ukraine also banned the plane from flying over its territory.

Here is the offending statement in question:

Upon a US request, Romania has closed its air space for my plane,” he tweeted. “Ukraine doesn't allow me to pass through again. Next time I'll fly on board TU-160,” he said implying that with all the neighboring airspaces closed only Russia's largest strategic bomber could pierce through.

So, the US trace again... But, oh the music of the word "sanctions". It can justify anything:

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“The threat of using a Russian strategic bomber plane by a Russian deputy prime minister is a very grave statement under the current regional context,” the statement read.

Romania justified its own actions by “simply following sanctions” imposed by the EU against Russia over Ukraine, although it remains unclear how the visa ban of one person is related to the rejection of crossing airspace for the whole aircraft.

The Romanians did not mention why the same rules were not followed during Rogozin's initial travel to Tiraspol on May 8, when his plane was forced by Ukraine – and was allowed to – fly over Bulgaria and Romania to reach the veterans of Transnistria for Victory Day celebrations.  

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“Our plane was ordered to return to Chisinau, threatening forced landing in Ukraine,” Vladimir Medinsky, Russia's culture minister said on Saturday, explaining that at first, the jet was cleared for takeoff, but as the flight just started to ascend, it was forced down, most likely following Washington's request. Kiev itself explained that Rusjet (RSJ) was not given flight permission “in connection with gross violations of Ukraine's airspace use, namely landing at a closed Simferopol airport.”

About Transnistria:
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Transnistria is a breakaway region of Moldova located between the River Dniester and the eastern Moldovan border with Ukraine. Since its declaration of independence in 1990, unrecognized by the UN, and the War of Transnistria in 1992, it has been governed as an autonomous territorial unit with special legal status. Most of its citizens speak Russian. Up to 1,500 Russian peacekeepers are protecting order there, under the agreement with Moldova.

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May 11, 2014, 01:17:23 PM
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Well, I agree that is was not the most intelligent comment that a politician could have made in such a delicate question, so I can see why Romanians are enraged.

On the other hand, Romania should not have gotten involved. This was between Russia and Moldova, and the feud over Transnistria has been going on for some time. A bit of reporting from RT (I'll quote some statement that caught my attention the most):

Stuck in rogue airspace: Moldova seizes Transnistria petitions from Russian delegation jet
http://rt.com/news/158164-moldova-rogozin-airspace-romania/

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“Moldovan secret services on-board our plane are confiscating boxes with Transdniestrians’ signatures for reunification with Russia,” Russian Deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin tweeted.

These documents, according to Rogozin, were transferred to him by activists during his visit to Tiraspol for Victory Day celebrations.

“Yesterday we received signatures that were handed to us by activists of the Union of Russian Communities,” the Deputy Prime Minister added.

Shouldn't he have some immunity from searches? On the other just recently the Bolivian president's plane was force-landed and searched for Snowden...

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The Moldovan authorizes were able to seize the documents after the plane carrying Russian politicians was forced to land in Chisinau after both Ukraine and Romania restricted its airspace to the Russian Rusjet Yak 42.

On Saturday, Rogozin tweeted that Romania closed its airspace “at the request of the US.” Ukraine also banned the plane from flying over its territory.

Here is the offending statement in question:

Upon a US request, Romania has closed its air space for my plane,” he tweeted. “Ukraine doesn't allow me to pass through again. Next time I'll fly on board TU-160,” he said implying that with all the neighboring airspaces closed only Russia's largest strategic bomber could pierce through.

So, the US trace again... But, oh the music of the word "sanctions". It can justify anything:

Quote
“The threat of using a Russian strategic bomber plane by a Russian deputy prime minister is a very grave statement under the current regional context,” the statement read.

Romania justified its own actions by “simply following sanctions” imposed by the EU against Russia over Ukraine, although it remains unclear how the visa ban of one person is related to the rejection of crossing airspace for the whole aircraft.

The Romanians did not mention why the same rules were not followed during Rogozin's initial travel to Tiraspol on May 8, when his plane was forced by Ukraine – and was allowed to – fly over Bulgaria and Romania to reach the veterans of Transnistria for Victory Day celebrations.  

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“Our plane was ordered to return to Chisinau, threatening forced landing in Ukraine,” Vladimir Medinsky, Russia's culture minister said on Saturday, explaining that at first, the jet was cleared for takeoff, but as the flight just started to ascend, it was forced down, most likely following Washington's request. Kiev itself explained that Rusjet (RSJ) was not given flight permission “in connection with gross violations of Ukraine's airspace use, namely landing at a closed Simferopol airport.”

About Transnistria:
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Transnistria is a breakaway region of Moldova located between the River Dniester and the eastern Moldovan border with Ukraine. Since its declaration of independence in 1990, unrecognized by the UN, and the War of Transnistria in 1992, it has been governed as an autonomous territorial unit with special legal status. Most of its citizens speak Russian. Up to 1,500 Russian peacekeepers are protecting order there, under the agreement with Moldova.


About "This was between Russia and Moldova" , just like Russia is interested in the Transnistria we could claim we're interested in Moldova. After all that is seen as Romanian land. Not that I join the enthusiams on this but..

On the other hand it appears that this whole escort the plane stop the plane thing was caused by Rogozin himself.

The plane took of with the destination Moscow via Ukraine but in went from the start towards our air space. Why?
The AACR didn't comment yet if they sent any message and the MAE said they will have a another statement on this.

The whole situation is at least weird.

Besides , the Ukrainians deny the ban and it seems he indeed arrived to Moscow  through Ukraine airspace.

Also a statement from the authorities in Moldova say that the plane claimed technical malfunctions when it returned to Chisinau.
Also it's weird that he posted on twitter the message from the so called romanian fighter ? , but not from the mig that intercepted it over Ukraine.

This whole thing is mess and my head is starting to hurt a bit.


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May 11, 2014, 01:58:20 PM
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I begin to wonder if this whole thing was a PR stunt.
Rogosin said yesterday that Russia could hardly hope for better PR for those signatures than Moldova seizing them.  Huh
And Rogosin is not as subtle a politician as, say, Lavrov....

It would be best for Romania to publish the air traffic control communications, if the plane indeed tried to enter Romanian airspace.

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May 11, 2014, 03:06:10 PM
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Russian Deputy PM Rogozin in Transnistria for the Victory Day:




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September 26, 2014, 08:28:56 AM
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Transnistria to issue plastic coins

http://news.coinupdate.com/transnistria-to-introduce-plastic-circulation-coins-4441/

The Transnistrian Republican Bank (TRB) will issue new currency units that will be made of composite materials. The move is being done to commemorate the twentieth anniversary of the national currency. Plastic coins, depending on denomination, will have a different geometric shape and color. According to the press service of the TRB, the new money will combine best qualities of coins and banknotes - high wear resistance and a wide range of security features. The coins for Transnistria were developed in Russia.

"For the time being, this kind of money is not produced anywhere else in the world. This is an innovation not only for Transnistria, but also for the international banking community. The currency units were designed by our colleagues from the Russian Federation and we will be the first to use them," First Deputy Chairwoman of the TRB Olga Radulova said in an interview with the First Transnistrian Channel.

The move to waive the production of metal coins is indeed a unique event. Plastic banknotes are in use in many countries of the world (they were first made in Australia), but the coins made ​​of composite materials will appear for the first time in Transnistria.

For protection against counterfeiting, the technology of their production involves the use of a special texture, contour elements, micro texts and specific reflection of light when exposed to ultraviolet and infrared glow.

Coins made ​​of plastic will be introduced in circulation from 22 August 2014 and will have a parallel circulation with paper money of the same denomination.

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August 10, 2017, 06:01:45 PM
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Transnistria intends to develop its own cryptocurrency system

The authorities of Tiraspol intends to develop their own cryptocurrency system (a type of digital coin). The action is included in a concept approved on Thursday, June 29, which provides for the development of e-commerce.

"We hope that this idea will help remove bureaucratic barriers for entrepreneurs, improve the business environment and increase transit and freight transfer, and increase the number of online stores," said the so-called Minister of Economic Development, Sergei Obolonic.
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