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July 31, 2017, 11:18:48 AM
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Putin signed a law banning the use of proxies, VPN, TOR browser. Now the Russians can't know the truth even on the Internet. Putin's dictatorship reaches its climax. I guess the days of this dictator are numbered, and Russia is waiting for the next coup d'etat or revolution.
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July 31, 2017, 11:58:36 AM
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Putin signed a law banning the use of proxies, VPN, TOR browser. Now the Russians can't know the truth even on the Internet. Putin's dictatorship reaches its climax. I guess the days of this dictator are numbered, and Russia is waiting for the next coup d'etat or revolution.

Yeah.. Russian even have no electricity...
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July 31, 2017, 02:58:57 PM
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Now the Russians can't know the truth even on the Internet.

Dude, You need to provide some example of great "Truth", what is banned in Russian Federation.
The list of banned sites is openly displayed on Roskomnadzor site, and any of such URL is not OK with the current Law.

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July 31, 2017, 03:19:11 PM
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The banning of VPNs and TOR browser is a retrograde step. But at the same time, Russia is not alone in banning their use. Even France has banned the use of TOR browser. Does that makes Emmanuel Macron a dictator?
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July 31, 2017, 05:57:26 PM
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I guess some people would be worried. Not the everyday folks though, they probably haven't even heard of VPNs and TOR.

What I'm wondering is if it'll get so bad that it'll become like North Korea that the only permissible OS was the one developed by the government.
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July 31, 2017, 06:11:23 PM
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Well, banning some sites wouldn't hurt anyone but banning the VPN's would definitely anger many. It's not like the only thing we do using VPN is to access those websites. I think it's the forest step towards dictatorship.

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July 31, 2017, 06:13:48 PM
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Banning TOR browser is a punch in the face to people who want to read anonymously in the internet, freelancers, free journalists and hacktivists all use TOR for their job. Putin with this move is trying to take total control and freedom of his citizens away. I wonder why the Russians still do not say anything about Putin? Maybe because he is one of the worst dictators alive to date and they fear for their life. He killed many well known journalists who openly spoke against him in many of their newspapers.

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July 31, 2017, 06:34:12 PM
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Putin signed a law banning the use of proxies, VPN, TOR browser. Now the Russians can't know the truth even on the Internet. Putin's dictatorship reaches its climax. I guess the days of this dictator are numbered, and Russia is waiting for the next coup d'etat or revolution.
No one is brave enough to challenge the authority of Vladimir Putin in the entire world, He is the only only dictator that the USA can't overthrow and they dare not, I am even worried that Putin may be the reasonable politician in the Kremlin, I am sure there are others who will even do worse than what Putin is doing now.

 
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July 31, 2017, 07:02:43 PM
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The banning of VPNs and TOR browser is a retrograde step.

There is no ban to use a VPN in Russia, but obligation for any VPN provider to deny the access for the Russian Users for ufficial ban list (this list is published).
In that way anyone can change the own IP to German IP and use it for access to other VPN, in this way the last VPN have no data about the Russian provienience of such user and will aply any restriction for serfing the WWW.
This is 100% legal working mode to access any URL from the ban list of Roskomnadzor.
But really, this list have nothing with some hidden "Truth".

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July 31, 2017, 07:26:11 PM
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Dictators are in every country on this planet..
If your not the leader dictating to your peoples your a rich elite dictating to politicians then they dictate to us the not so rich peoples to do what the rich elite want..

Dictatorship is everywhere in all corners of the globe..

Look at the EU dictating to Poland and Hungry ..
Trying to dictate to the UK but we will not have it Grin..

The rich elite wants to stay in the EU so no one can have a chance to set up a new business ..
I see what your doing like 17 million Brits do ..

You don't care for the MASSES you care for ones self..

You will see way more poverty than ever before if we stay in the EU  the many will be poor the few will be rich..
Just like 17th century BRITAIN the rich used the poor as slaves ..

Tories are the worst for it ..THEY ARE DICTATORS..

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The banning of VPNs and TOR browser is a retrograde step.

There is no ban to use a VPN in Russia, but obligation for any VPN provider to deny the access for the Russian Users for ufficial ban list (this list is published).
In that way anyone can change the own IP to German IP and use it for access to other VPN, in this way the last VPN have no data about the Russian provienience of such user and will aply any restriction for serfing the WWW.
This is 100% legal working mode to access any URL from the ban list of Roskomnadzor.
But really, this list have nothing with some hidden "Truth".
People will find always a way out, but now it will be connected with little difficulty. In Ukraine also tried to ban Russian sites, but to ban VPN is not reached. In today's world it is very difficult to restrict people's access to information. Putin it is time to go to rest.
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The banning of VPNs and TOR browser is a retrograde step.

There is no ban to use a VPN in Russia, but obligation for any VPN provider to deny the access for the Russian Users for ufficial ban list (this list is published).
In that way anyone can change the own IP to German IP and use it for access to other VPN, in this way the last VPN have no data about the Russian provienience of such user and will aply any restriction for serfing the WWW.
This is 100% legal working mode to access any URL from the ban list of Roskomnadzor.
But really, this list have nothing with some hidden "Truth".

So the mainstream media is once again twisting the facts to tarnish Putin and Russia? But even if what you had posted is true, how many of the VPN services will comply with such requests? I am talking especially about those who are based outside Russia.

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August 01, 2017, 04:41:57 AM
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how many of the VPN services will comply with such requests? I am talking especially about those who are based outside Russia.

There are provided sanctions.
First tere are fines for search engines for includung banned url's from the list.
And for VPN providers is a ban for 30 days for not respect this rule for Russian users.

But is uncnown, how it will be realized.

Anonymizer providers and TOR are not banned, if they start to supporting the restrictions requested by law.

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August 01, 2017, 07:00:40 PM
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i agree with you bro....its an aggressive country with hard man as president
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August 01, 2017, 08:24:13 PM
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Putin is wise to mask his dictatorship under fake democracy. He's allowing for elections, but manipulating them. He's taking bribes, but is cautious enough to never get caught. People are scared of him, because people usually end up disappearing or thrown in jail when they cross him. He's made a fortune already and is going to continue.

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August 02, 2017, 02:59:32 AM
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Putin is wise to mask his dictatorship under fake democracy. He's allowing for elections, but manipulating them. He's taking bribes, but is cautious enough to never get caught. People are scared of him, because people usually end up disappearing or thrown in jail when they cross him. He's made a fortune already and is going to continue.

Whatever the bad things that you say about him, it doesn't hide the fact that he is currently enjoying a massive support from the local population. The approval rating has been measured at around 85% recently.

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August 02, 2017, 11:33:31 AM
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I don't know what to think about those who judge other leaders of a sovereign country who done nothing wrong to them, dictatorship and freedom are word used by most corrupt government and country to control other country and priorities there interest. Other country with high democracy "in words" can't even accept the leader that their democracy "election" process result. Let the locals decide if they don't want that kind of leader and it's law.
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In many countries there are bans not only on the Internet, but also on more ridiculous things. The ban on certain sites is only a business, not a dictatorship.

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