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August 02, 2017, 11:44:37 PM
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That is a lot of money lost, sorry to hear about it, but I don't think there is any chances for you to get your bitcoins back as the bitcoins have already been sent out from the wallet. It is always better to verify a site before downloading the electrum wallet, but I still wonder how did the OP find that link for downloading the fake electrum wallet in the first place.

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August 02, 2017, 11:53:55 PM
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Very sad to hear this.45 BTC is not a small amount.All that glitters is not gold.I think due to curiosity of gaining free BCC,you have downloaded wallet from Electrum-wallet.com.Thats the great mistake you have done.These types of scams come around at such unusual times like hard fork occuring.

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August 03, 2017, 02:23:06 AM
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OMG, i so sad hear about that, 45.8 BTC is much, this is night mare  Cry
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August 03, 2017, 03:44:36 AM
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OK... It took me a few minutes of research to find out what happened exactly. So this guy installed a trojan from this site:

http://electrum-wallet.com/

instead of installing the electrum wallet from this website:

https://electrum.org/

A very very costly mistake instead. Also, just a few days back, Theymos had instructed us not to transfer the BTCs in very large blocks. He ignored that warning also.

Note that sending all of your BTC in a single transaction is likely to be harmful to your privacy; if you care about this, you might want to send it in several smaller transactions to several different addresses on the new wallet.
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August 03, 2017, 07:42:36 AM
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The only possible way to recover those is to move legally,file a police complaint regarding the coins and the loss,and forward it to all the exchanges regarding the movement of the coins,since it is a public ledger the hacker have to cash out at some exchanges and there are instances when the exchanges withheld the money from hackers when they deposit in it,other than that there is no way you could recover those.
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August 03, 2017, 07:49:58 AM
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You have to figure it's going to take quite a while for conventional police forces to catch up to the technology at play here.
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August 03, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
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^ Chances are if the ppl behind this are smart enough to create a wallet that can wipe out your machines wallets, they've thought well past domain/hosting/ID's/IP's/legal/whatifs/unforeseens/etc. Best case scenario namecheap and the host give up intel that's probably daisy chained to dead ends imo. I'm sure they won't be around long but all it takes is a new domain.whatever and another indi/loose/foreign hosting and they're up again.

** I hate scammers as much as anyone else, however, like anyone else, I'm fascinated by the schemes they execute and must admit this shit was clever, timed, and paid the fawk off for these guys. What a beautiful and cruel world.

It's like in the safari. A lone, thirty wildebeast straying into a new and unusual wateringhole unaware that its surrounded by hidden lions waiting to pounce and rip its guts out once it stays just a bit too long with its guard down.

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August 03, 2017, 08:41:08 AM
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I'm so sorry for your loss. It's not a small amount. I think what you should do is research who is owner of this fake domain. It's the only glue at this moment.
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August 03, 2017, 08:49:00 AM
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Try reporting to FBI or something.
Call. Contact host. Maybe you can reach out to an international lawyer.
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August 03, 2017, 09:31:44 AM
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Sophos stopped me from opening the site. Reinstall your PC but be sure you don't destroy any wallets in the process.
If you hold any more coins get a hardware wallet ASAP!

In my opinion if you hold more than 1 Bitcoin a hardware wallet is mandatory!

Did you check is he also got the BCH/BCC balance? Maybe there is still something to rescue here.

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August 03, 2017, 09:37:58 AM
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It seems to me that the scamming websites become more and more popular as bitcoins boom. It becomes to create a website to phishing and send fake emails/messages around.

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August 03, 2017, 09:38:55 AM
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WARNING for everybody else who opened the site!!!

Your machine might got exploited, there is an exploit kit live.


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https://www.virustotal.com/de/url/45de65ee218e3b662a58f93a53b9adc59f0c50c7fade6d0b1e1aa477dc116ef4/analysis/

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August 03, 2017, 10:55:44 AM
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WARNING for everybody else who opened the site!!!

Your machine might got exploited, there is an exploit kit live.


Virus total scan
https://www.virustotal.com/de/url/45de65ee218e3b662a58f93a53b9adc59f0c50c7fade6d0b1e1aa477dc116ef4/analysis/

No, There is no exploit kit installed. I have checked source. Only files are infected and virustotal is showing malware because site has been reported as malware hosting site in past.
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August 03, 2017, 04:25:26 PM
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This is one of the attack places that isn't used very often but could get a lot of people. Brand new coins, people don't trust those wallets, people don't trust those coins actual code itself, brand new websites people don't trust those, but generally a wallet for Bitcoin itself gets a decent amount of trust right off the bat without any sort of Open Source or anything.
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August 03, 2017, 04:43:26 PM
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Sorry for your loss OP, I've lost a similar amount a while back, and know how much it hurts.
Take care man.
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August 03, 2017, 06:54:58 PM
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I googled the site on www.who.is and www.scamfoo.com and surprisingly no case about fraud has been reported concerning the site so far. That means it is business as usual for the scammers as the public hasn't been alerted of their scams. No bad publicity or review yet.

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August 03, 2017, 07:32:57 PM
Last edit: August 03, 2017, 08:07:34 PM by xdev
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Is OP alive?

Just for his information I gathered some info that you can use to further your search for your Bitcoins.

Heres an IP of the company who owns the domain

IP Location   Germany Germany Waldbrunn Ip Projects
ASN   Germany AS31400 ACCELERATED-IT, DE (registered May 06, 2004)
Resolve Host   xxx
Whois Server   whois.ripe.net
IP Address   82.211.xxxx
Reverse IP   2 websites use this address.

Additionally, if you believe you are a victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint through Internet Crime Complaint Center at https://complaint.ic3.gov , who are in the best position to fully investigate any such issue across any/all service providers.

And behold;

REGISTRANT CONTACT
Name:Alexandr XXX
Street:ul. Gincharnaya XXX
City:Moscow
State:Moscow
Postal Code:101XXX
Country:RU
Phone:+7.XXXXX
Email:email@mail.ru

The ball is in your hands now, OP

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August 03, 2017, 11:29:32 PM
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Are you sure, I thought the .com is the right one??? Now I am bit confused.
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August 03, 2017, 11:34:14 PM
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Are you sure, I thought the .com is the right one??? Now I am bit confused.
FFS look at his post count and the fact that he cannot spell Ethereum.  Roll Eyes

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August 03, 2017, 11:41:33 PM
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PSA: The only official wallet for electron cash is www.electroncash.org   -- some people have had false sites on this one too steal their funds.

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