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January 24, 2011, 08:12:57 PM
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Unless somebody volunteers to fix/maintain this, I'm inclined to simply remove all of the "try to make the CPU miner go faster" optimizations from bitcoin.
How about leaving the optimizations in there, unless/until they cause some problem? If an optimization causes a maintenance problem, then it can be removed.

If there's hostile action against bitcoin, it might be valuable to muster every last CPU cycle by encouraging everyone to turn on generation.

When the standard client was patched to fix the overflow bug, the "valid" block chain overtook the "sabotaged" one in less than a day. One of the reasons for that was the success of the pleading (in this forum) for everyone to install the new client as soon as possible, and to turn on generation.
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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. The most secure are full nodes like Bitcoin Core, which will follow the rules of the network no matter what miners do. Even if every miner decided to create 1000 bitcoins per block, full nodes would stick to the rules and reject those blocks.
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January 29, 2011, 03:27:06 PM
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I'm running bitcoin on hardened Gentoo.  Everything works short of generation.  If I understand the conversation so far, some optimizations fail on hardened systems, but if they are disabled, generation will likely work.  On the other hand, the integrity of the network as a whole is bolstered by legitimate clients working efficiently, so removing optimization will probably be a net loss.

How about a compile-time switch?  It's not uncommon for optimized code to get along poorly with hardening measures.  I'm not familiar with the code base, let alone the developers, so I couldn't intelligently guess about the tradeoffs involved, but it seems to me that it would make sense to include a toggle that defaults to "optimize" (current condition), but can be flipped to "just do it the slow ugly way".  That way I could contribute my CPU cycles (if somewhat inefficiently), and the vast majority of the rest of the world, who don't run extremely hardened systems, don't have to be drastically affected.  Ideally that could trickle down to a Gentoo USE flag.  Smiley

I'll be happy to help with testing, provide traces, etc.  My system is protected by ASLR, non-executable stacks, GCC's stack-smashing protection, and any other bit I could flip in the kernel or elsewhere to harden the system, excluding mandatory access control (so no selinux, grsecurity, etc).  If it runs on my rig, it should run anywhere.

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