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August 05, 2017, 02:51:40 PM
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I have decided to make my own list of people trying to sell accounts, because i kind of have had enough of it.
Will be pasting the original as well as the archived message, and the users they are trying to sell from.
I'll add users that are not tagged, and remove them once they get tagged. I believe we should give them a lesson, and i want to contribute to this forum in that kind of way.
If you have any tips, let me know and i'll add the users to the list once you provide with archived version of the page as well as the original page.

You can check from Haveibeenpwned for any possible email, password, username and password leaks. If you can find yourself from that list, please change your password ASAP!

Account sellers:



Potentially hacked/bought accounts:

PAKYU. Reasons: A gap of over a year, suddenly waking up and posting on local boards that the account has never posted on as well as no staked address. Changed password and email recently.
ConspiracyCoin. Reasons: A gap of around 2 years, started suddenly posting on turkish.
Monkey1. Reasons: A gap of around 3 years, started suddenly posting on turkish (Made some posts on Korean few years ago before going inactive).
onesalt. Reasons: A gap of around 5 years, started suddenly posting on turkish and all recent posts on turkish local boards.
ap3311. Reasons: A gap of around 3 years, started suddenly posting on turkish and alot of recent posts on turkish local boards.
presidentcoin. Reasons: A gap of around 3 years, started suddenly posting on turkish and alot of recent posts on turkish local boards. (Posted on german board before).
hashforce101. Reasons: A gap of 1 month, as well as the grammar has changed significantly. Started almost suddenly after the gap of 1 month and change on grammar, to offer Campaign management services. Has been asked to provide a signed message to prove ownership of the account.

Tagged accounts:
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Undermood - Tagged for account sale by Lauda
mullderdan - Tagged for account sales by Lauda
wdl1908 - Tagged for account sales and possibly scamming by hilariousandco

If your account is listed here, you can remove yourself from the list by proving your account ownership with signed message. Reply here or shoot with PM. Needs to be staked address. The exception however is, if you woke up from a period of inactivity over a year suddenly, then the signed message needs to be from an address that was used before inactivity period. If you are not able to provide signed message from staked address, then i cannot help you.

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August 05, 2017, 03:55:03 PM
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Are you going to be counting anyone who participates in account sales? I've taken the liberty of tagging those such accounts when I can.

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August 05, 2017, 04:02:08 PM
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Are you going to be counting anyone who participates in account sales? I've taken the liberty of tagging those such accounts when I can.

The below is the basic format of the code:

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[code][url=http://topic]Username[/url], [url=http://archive]Archived page[/url]
[url=http://topic]Username[/url], [url=http://archive]Archived page[/url]
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Yeah that was actually that i was pretty much thinking of.
I think that everyone taking part in account sales deserves to get negative trust, because of the trust farming, spamming and such related to them.
Of course if someone is a newbie, it makes no reason to add them to this list but full members and up actually have something to lose usually.
Do you think a thread like this possibly would be too much on the long run (was thinking if this is considered to be a witch hunt Roll Eyes)?

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August 05, 2017, 04:34:46 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=502900
PAKYU sold his account yesterday.

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Weirdly, suddenly the account has had posts to some local board it has never posted before, as well as the way of posting has changed alot. for this reason i'll add a seperate part for potential sold or hacked accounts as well.
Changing passwords and email can be done example in case of data breach, it does not mean that the account has been sold (although it is a red flag that such thing has happened).

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August 05, 2017, 05:02:17 PM
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The fact that most of the account selling accounts are just throwaway's created for the sole purpose of account trading to hide their original identity.Even if you manage to list the account names,chances are those would be dumped after an account is sold and a new one would be created for another sale.Do you think it's worth your time to keep up with all of them ?

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August 05, 2017, 05:06:18 PM
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The fact that most of the account selling accounts are just throwaway's created for the sole purpose of account trading to hide their original identity.Even if you manage to list the account names,chances are those would be dumped after an account is sold and a new one would be created for another sale.Do you think it's worth your time to keep up with all of them ?

Im not listing the throwaways, some people however use something like Sr. Member accounts or Hero Member accounts for sales example if you check Undermood for example. I add the accounts that i think are worth adding to the list, so not brand new accounts solely for account trading for example. It might take some of my time, but this is the way that i can contribute to bitcointalk community as well, so i have no problem using some of my time for doing this Smiley

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August 05, 2017, 05:10:33 PM
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The fact that most of the account selling accounts are just throwaway's created for the sole purpose of account trading to hide their original identity.Even if you manage to list the account names,chances are those would be dumped after an account is sold and a new one would be created for another sale.Do you think it's worth your time to keep up with all of them ?
How about people that are buying accounts? Additionally, this would only really regard Member+ accounts considering they would be the only ones that a rating would have a real effect on.

And the negative will at least disrupt non-account sale related activities, like trading. You wouldn't want to do a currency swap with someone that has Trust: -2 on them would you?

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August 05, 2017, 05:13:18 PM
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Weirdly, suddenly the account has had posts to some local board it has never posted before, as well as the way of posting has changed alot. for this reason i'll add a seperate part for potential sold or hacked accounts as well.
Changing passwords and email can be done example in case of data breach, it does not mean that the account has been sold (although it is a red flag that such thing has happened).

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That's a dead giveaway.   Good for you for taking a stand,  and I agree wholeheartedly with your approach.   I've been negging account dealers for a while now, and I would suggest you prepare yourself for a lot of retaliatory attacks on your trust page.  They'll probably all be untrusted,  but to someone who doesn't dig deep it can look like you're a scammer.

Account sales and farming has gotten way out of control.   I've noticed a lot of shitposting noobs lately,  and I strongly suspect that's the result of farming.   Even if account sales don't lead directly to scamming, people buy them to participate in campaigns, and they usually can't speak a lick of English.   Not good for the forum.



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That's a dead giveaway.   Good for you for taking a stand,  and I agree wholeheartedly with your approach.   I've been negging account dealers for a while now, and I would suggest you prepare yourself for a lot of retaliatory attacks on your trust page.  They'll probably all be untrusted,  but to someone who doesn't dig deep it can look like you're a scammer.

Account sales and farming has gotten way out of control.   I've noticed a lot of shitposting noobs lately,  and I strongly suspect that's the result of farming.   Even if account sales don't lead directly to scamming, people buy them to participate in campaigns, and they usually can't speak a lick of English.   Not good for the forum.

Thank you for your kind words Smiley
I have seen so many signature campaign spammers that i do actually see, why account sales and farming is a problem.
And yeah once in a while i see people who use google translate to take part on english boards, which is not a very healthy practice for the average post quality on bitcointalk.
I think bidding on auctions with account sales should be allowed, so we could trick the people who sell into signing message that they own the account, and then posting the signed message with the screenshots as well to make it obvious which account are going to be sold. Sadly, i do not think many people on the forum would appreciate that, because that could be unmoral  from eyes of someone as well.

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so we could trick the people who sell into signing message that they own the account, and then posting the signed message with the screenshots as well to make it obvious which account are going to be sold. Sadly, i do not think many people on the forum would appreciate that, because that could be unmoral  from eyes of someone as well.
I originally had an idea to make a sort of sting op regarding account sale auctions and digital goods threads. The purpose was to get the owner to show the account then tag it directly after.

Of course, this leads to the issue of being immoral towards a merchant selling goods... but when you consider the product, is it justified?

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I originally had an idea to make a sort of sting op regarding account sale auctions and digital goods threads. The purpose was to get the owner to show the account then tag it directly after.

Of course, this leads to the issue of being immoral towards a merchant selling goods... but when you consider the product, is it justified?

That is true, what i am afraid of would be DT members attacking me because i like being on this forum, and if they considered my actions wrong, that would be it for my time on this forum.
Personally i consider accounts sales highly unmoral, considering that you are selling all of your trust as well as account for some money.
It would be kind of like selling your Identity or credit score, so other people could scam some other people, which is indeed very fucked up and wrong.
Do you think that would be too much of a witchhunt, or is that kind of a thing we need to do to protect the forums?

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Just letting you guys know that the user Undermood was either sold or cancelled the sale.
Here is the thread, that is linked to the op, which was edited to join a sig campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2067531
As well as here is the archived page, which still shows the post unedited: http://archive.fo/ugL7T

I hope that some members will see this and take action.
I do not think that this dude has any right to take part in any signature campaigns at all.

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August 07, 2017, 10:21:17 AM
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Account sellers:

Undermood, Archived page Notices: User removed the text on the thread, as well as joined a signature campaign.
mullderdan, Archived page
Tagged.

Potentially hacked/bought accounts:
PAKYU. Reasons: A gap of over a year, suddenly waking up and posting on local boards that the account has never posted on as well as no staked address. Changed password and email recently.
hchc. Reasons: A gap of around 3 years, changed email address.
ConspiracyCoin. Reasons: A gap of around 2 years, started suddenly posting on turkish.
Monkey1. Reasons: A gap of around 3 years, started suddenly posting on turkish (Made some posts on Korean few years ago before going inactive).
If you want someone to reasonably tag these, then you need more than very circumstantial proof. I mean, I could attempt to analyze the behavioral pattern of each of these users and then make a (personal) conclusion as to whether they should be tagged or not. However, this would take up too much time / would not be worth the effort. Therefore, I suggest that you try finding better proof (e.g. changes in the local boards that the user posts). Additionally, I suggest that you better format the list and avoid using fonts that are very large.

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August 07, 2017, 10:28:51 AM
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If you want someone to reasonably tag these, then you need more than very circumstantial proof. I mean, I could attempt to analyze the behavioral pattern of each of these users and then make a (personal) conclusion as to whether they should be tagged or not. However, this would take up too much time / would not be worth the effort. Therefore, I suggest that you try finding better proof (e.g. changes in the local boards that the user posts). Additionally, I suggest that you better format the list and avoid using fonts that are very large.

Thanks alot for your reply Lauda!
I took your advice, and will only add accounts that suddenly start posting on local boards that has never been used before.
Do you consider personally that being enough proof for a sold/hacked account?
Im still a starter on this type of thing, and i appreciate every tip that is given to me.
Seems like most accounts on that have been potentially sold/hacked, start posting on turkish local boards.
I'll add Haveibeenpwned just incase to the OP, so if people see this thread, they can see if their accounts are potentially in danger.

Edit: And by posting on local boards, i mean account that woke up from a long period of inactivity (1-5 years or so on) and has made alot of posts on local boards recently that account has never been used to post on. Many of the accounts listed have only been used on the english boards before inactivity.

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August 07, 2017, 10:33:24 AM
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Thanks alot for your reply Lauda!
You're welcome.

I took your advice, and will only add accounts that suddenly start posting on local boards that has never been used before.
Do you consider personally that being enough proof for a sold/hacked account?
No, that's not what I meant. What I meant was that you should look for contradictions in a user's behavioral pattern. For example:
Let's say the user has been posing in the Turkish Local board (among other sections). The account changes password and/or email. The account now posts in the Indonesian local board (among other sections). This is a clear contradiction in an user's behavior, and makes it very likely that it has been sold (if not certain).

Seems like most accounts on that have been potentially sold/hacked, start posting on turkish local boards.
I'll add Haveibeenpwned just incase to the OP, so if people see this thread, they can see if their accounts are potentially in danger.
There are a lot of cheaters, sold accounts and whatnot that need tagging. The reason for which I always ask for good formatting is because it saves time. There's already a backlog for me as is.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=90957
unois posts in spanish. June 19, 2017 posts in turkish.

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August 08, 2017, 08:02:13 PM
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Potentially bought account

Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=106205

Activity gap: May 25, 2017 - August 07, 2017

Was active on Nederlands (Dutch) board, but now speaks fluent Russian

Tries to hire people to post on his ICO thread from multiple sockpuppet accounts - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2073441

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User: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=677548

Activity gap: January 20, 2016 - June 14, 2017

no local posts before.

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Potentially bought account

Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=106205
Activity gap: May 25, 2017 - August 07, 2017
Interesting. That account used to shill for potential Bitcoin forks. The email change is still visible.


User: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=677548

Activity gap: January 20, 2016 - June 14, 2017

no local posts before.
Creating reports of this type is somewhat useless. A gap in the post history does not necessarily mean that the account has been hacked or sold. Circumstantial evidence at best (even though past data would tell us that it is almost surely a positive hit given the size of the gap).

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August 09, 2017, 10:13:06 AM
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why u no add this man?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407977

he is obvious bought account and want scam people

he didnt give signed message

you even comment yourself that he is probably hacked

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2062551.0

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August 09, 2017, 10:19:16 AM
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why u no add this man?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407977

he is obvious bought account and want scam people

he didnt give signed message

you even comment yourself that he is probably hacked

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2062551.0

I WILL STOP ACCOUNT SALES!!!

Why would i need to? As said, i only add non-tagged accounts to the list that are bought or hacked. There is no need to add accounts that are already tagged, because the point of this list is letting members know which accounts are risky to deal with.

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August 09, 2017, 10:57:06 AM
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why u no add this man?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407977

he is obvious bought account and want scam people
Obvious != proof.

he didnt give signed message
Is he is refusing to do so, then he is unable to do so (thus likely sold indeed).

I WILL STOP ACCOUNT SALES!!!
The only way which might stop the majority of account sales is if you convince theymos to make them against the rules.

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August 09, 2017, 12:31:41 PM
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@op, but he is no tag? Not negative trust like other people.  Huh

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if he give no message is that no proof account is hacked
It depends. There were cases in which the user was not able to provide a signed message for a certain amount of period. This can happen (speaking out of experience). However, if the user:
1) Outright rejects providing a signed message.
2) Has shown no intent of providing it when asked (i.e. ignores it).
then he/she is highly likely to be compromised and I'd say this alone warrants a negative rating.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=320403

Trust summary for Umbrella Holdings

This user's password was reset recently.

This user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity.

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Just listing a potentially bought account.
Although the account woke up from sleep since 2016,I'm listing them here since they're started to show tendencies of a scammer during their first few posts.Also,I've strange feeling they're connected to Engg.Chakks.No connected address found as for now but anyway I'm putting them here for reference.

Account : BaraxLo

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August 15, 2017, 10:34:19 AM
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Just listing a potentially bought account.
Although the account woke up from sleep since 2016,I'm listing them here since they're started to show tendencies of a scammer during their first few posts.Also,I've strange feeling they're connected to Engg.Chakks.No connected address found as for now but anyway I'm putting them here for reference.

Account : BaraxLo

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(signature says "I love my America" while it is a Pakistani account )

Thanks for the recommendation, what signature do you mean by the way?
I see his signature as KickICO as signature, and nothing of "I love my America".
On my eyes this looks pretty suspicious, so im still thinking if i should add them to the list or not because they don't have a staked address either.

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August 16, 2017, 10:39:57 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=200649
registered 2013, sleep until today.

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This user changed his/her password recently.

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August 25, 2017, 07:18:42 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2117234.0

Here is an account seller!

Looks worthwhile to tag him, he made the mistake of selling this account on a senior member account. If you look at his past posts he is also selling hero and full member accounts in bulk. They are probably hacked.

Also the account has email and password changed recently, so it may also be hacked/sold.


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Bumping. If anyone has any suspections about someone having a bought account or a hacked, or selling accounts, feel free to contact me.

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October 04, 2017, 10:45:41 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=835029
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=344671
This user changed his/her password recently
Both full member accounts looks suspicious, they are spamming and asking for questions about signature size and how to add avatar and etc. 
And found this post by one of these users:
In two - three weeks i will have to sell nice bunch of accounts for half price.. get in contact with me if you are so sure Wink C'a later Cheesy

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=835029
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=344671
This user changed his/her password recently
Both full member accounts looks suspicious, they are spamming and asking for questions about signature size and how to add avatar and etc. 
And found this post by one of these users:
In two - three weeks i will have to sell nice bunch of accounts for half price.. get in contact with me if you are so sure Wink C'a later Cheesy

Thank you, but i currently don't do this thread anymore. However if you wish to manage such a list, feel free to use the BBCODE of this thread for that purpose.
Locking this now.

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