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May 16, 2013, 08:36:31 AM
Last edit: May 21, 2013, 11:07:32 AM by TradeFortress
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This social experiment has ended - here was the goals:

1) teach people that Ripple BTCs are not real BTCs
2) teach people that your BTC.* can be substituted for anything you trust, automatically

There was also mass invasion of ripple.com/forum posters. It's not too hard to figure out who they are. Keep this in mind:

1) I have not profited at all from this.
2) Anyone who lost BTC.* had their BTCs exchanged by other people.
3) Anyone who I sent a BTC to could have redeemed someone else's Bitstamp or whatever IOU.

Please read http://ripplescam.org/ to learn more!
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May 16, 2013, 08:54:56 AM
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Ripple Adress: rNjuHia9iCwHWsdeBU5yR1Wprrki4xXQ7k

Bitcoin Address:1GeLQtuvwqDuMthhehr8PS6nXDLnHgMNwK
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May 16, 2013, 08:58:34 AM
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May 16, 2013, 08:59:02 AM
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here is my ripple address:

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Thank you !
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May 16, 2013, 09:02:20 AM
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May 16, 2013, 09:12:47 AM
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3 BTC has being sent.

1. You must have funded your account with at least 50 XRP.
2. You must have trusted us with 100 BTC.

If you have matched the requirements, a bitcoin has being sent via Ripple. Thanks!
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May 16, 2013, 09:23:31 AM
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To expose and bring awareness to the flaws in the Ripple payment system, I am giving away 1 BTC on Ripple.

This is a social experiment. Therefore, posts not consisting of an Ripple address to send 1 BTC to will be deleted.

How it works

1. Register for a bitcointalk.org forum account if you haven't
2. Complete the following steps in your light (not a full node) Ripple client:



So you can copy and paste the address we're sending your bitcoin from, it's rH3bZsvVUhzugvcYuJVoSYCEMHkfK6wHNv

3. Post your address here. I will send at least 1 BTC to your address.

That's it!

I suggest reading RippleScam.org afterwards. Please note that you must exchange your bitcoins with an liquidity provider (Ripple does this automatically, when paths are calculated) in order to withdraw them from a gateway.


A) why not use the ripple url for trust, like stamp does  https://ripple.com/client/#/trust?to=rH3bZsvVUhzugvcYuJVoSYCEMHkfK6wHNv&name=TradeFortress&tab=trust

B) what is to stop you cleaning out *other* people's BTC accounts!
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May 16, 2013, 09:25:31 AM
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This guy is scammer! Beware.

+1

HOW-TO boycott a Ripple system.....  Undecided

Meh TF is not a scammer, apparently you did not read the original thread properly or u have dust stuck in your eyes after seeing 1 BTC

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A) why not use the ripple url for trust, like stamp does  https://ripple.com/client/#/trust?to=rH3bZsvVUhzugvcYuJVoSYCEMHkfK6wHNv&name=TradeFortress&tab=trust

B) what is to stop you cleaning out *other* people's BTC accounts!

A) Thanks for the tip.

B) I won't defraud/scam you out of any money. Yes, you can convert the BTC I send you to real BTCs. For continued discussion, send me a PM, responses will be deleted from this point.
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May 16, 2013, 09:31:53 AM
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May 16, 2013, 09:35:22 AM
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May 16, 2013, 09:40:41 AM
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May 16, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
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BTCs have being sent if you followed the proper procedures.
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May 16, 2013, 09:57:40 AM
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Not sure I did it right the first time, so I've done it again
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May 16, 2013, 10:00:54 AM
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Total of 11 BC sent. Thank you.
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May 16, 2013, 10:02:58 AM
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Has already being sent.
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May 16, 2013, 10:04:18 AM
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May 16, 2013, 10:15:41 AM
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Thank you for providing this free legit service Cheesy.
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May 16, 2013, 10:17:49 AM
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Sent if you have trusted (it is a Ripple limitation that transactions cannot be sent without trust).
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May 16, 2013, 10:30:09 AM
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I don't have any XRP, and I'm too new to get any from the OpenCoin giveaway. Can I still participate?

Address: rD8mnWKa6NKTMqetteLZDkuztBVPoSFxRP

I am in the same situation.

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I don't have any XRP, and I'm too new to get any from the OpenCoin giveaway. Can I still participate?

Address: rD8mnWKa6NKTMqetteLZDkuztBVPoSFxRP

I am in the same situation.

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Sorry but no.

Another batch has being sent.
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May 16, 2013, 10:43:51 AM
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trusted the address
my address : rE3n4SsVdoB6HPPzzkyieqpLWTNVTVPZdU
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May 16, 2013, 10:50:28 AM
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I'm game :
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May 16, 2013, 10:53:00 AM
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Over 32 BTC has being sent.
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May 16, 2013, 10:54:39 AM
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I've got the 1BTC, not sure how i use it though. I only have 103xrp so that may be a problem
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May 16, 2013, 10:55:33 AM
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I don't have any XRP, and I'm too new to get any from the OpenCoin giveaway. Can I still participate?

Address: rD8mnWKa6NKTMqetteLZDkuztBVPoSFxRP

I am in the same situation.

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the same,i'm noob, it shows "You have to be funded before you can grant a trust"

i try to get some xrp
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May 16, 2013, 10:58:29 AM
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Ok, how do I get that BTC out of Ripple now again?
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May 16, 2013, 11:00:38 AM
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Over 32 BTC has being sent.
Can we stick with "is being" or "has been"? Smiley

Thanks for the RBTC (as I now know them).  Now if only I could find a buyer...
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Heh! Received "1 BTC" but can't send it anywhere, not even back, as "Path not found."
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Let's try it! Smiley

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I've got the 1BTC, not sure how i use it though. I only have 103xrp so that may be a problem
PM'd.
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You need to follow the steps before I can send you the BTC.
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Unfortunately I have the message on my screen: " You have to be funded before you can grant a trust ". And I have no idea how to fix it. Sad.
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Unfortunately I have the message on my screen: " You have to be funded before you can grant a trust ". And I have no idea how to fix it. Sad.
Don't fix it (it's not worth it). See RippleScam.org
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May 16, 2013, 11:51:26 AM
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Unfortunately I have the message on my screen: " You have to be funded before you can grant a trust ". And I have no idea how to fix it. Sad.
Don't fix it (it's not worth it). See RippleScam.org
Anyway I want to play a bit with the ripples Smiley. Unfortunately I can not post to exchange threads and can not solve the problem. Is it another way to get some XRP? I looked through the forum and figured out that I should have at least 300-350 XRP to activate account. Am I right?
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Sent! Over 52 BTC gave away on Ripple.

Please also read RippleScam.org to learn more.
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Not matching requirements sorry, you have to extend trust for anyone to send you payments.
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Not matching requirements sorry, you have to extend trust for anyone to send you payments.
Damn, it says i need 50 xrp to extend trust and i only have 49
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Thanks!  Grin

Aquí puedes conseguir pequeños ahorros sin mucho esfuerzo: http://www.bitvisitor.com/?ref=1PWNAGEZ3fSM8QevUavdd2iZ9F5jkp1QHZ
Consigue algo más viendo vídeos o haciendo pequeñas tareas en Bitcoinget.com: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178692.msg2509190#msg2509190
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You must extend trust first.
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Can someone send me 1 xrp so i can partake in this experiment?

Thanks in advance
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May 16, 2013, 12:51:01 PM
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could anyone send me 50 ripples there:

rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe

so I can apply for the one bitcoin giveaway ;-), I'd like to test the trust feature too ...
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No.. sorry.
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TradeFortress what exactly is this? I can't do anything with this coin?

I now have 2 of them! They're useless?
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Why are you just staring at this? Just send it! 1MHZjADM41ttjbPUiTPYWGYGm45XLf8ZeS
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May 16, 2013, 01:27:06 PM
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sent you 1ripple, Tradefortress please resend to this kind person...
rLeFkAbidRzQtQYkqNghVhdaDU1rvMKwP6

Why are you just staring at this? Just send it! 1MHZjADM41ttjbPUiTPYWGYGm45XLf8ZeS
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Can you actually get btc out of ripple into your wallet?

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May 16, 2013, 01:37:29 PM
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I thought you were against ripples.
To expose and bring awareness to the flaws in the Ripple payment system, I am giving away 1 BTC on Ripple.

This is a social experiment. Therefore, posts not consisting of an Ripple address to send 1 BTC to may be deleted.

How it works

1. Register for a bitcointalk.org forum account if you haven't
2. Complete the following steps in your light (not a full node) Ripple client:



So you can copy and paste the address we're sending your bitcoin from, it's rH3bZsvVUhzugvcYuJVoSYCEMHkfK6wHNv

3. Post your address here. I will send at least 1 BTC to your address.

That's it!

I suggest reading RippleScam.org afterwards. Please note that you must exchange your bitcoins with an liquidity provider (Ripple does this automatically, when paths are calculated) in order to withdraw them from a gateway.

Why are you just staring at this? Just send it! 1MHZjADM41ttjbPUiTPYWGYGm45XLf8ZeS
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No.. sorry.
in need of virtual money to get more virtual money... fun
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May 16, 2013, 01:52:00 PM
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could anyone send me 50 ripples there:

rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe

so I can apply for the one bitcoin giveaway ;-), I'd like to test the trust feature too ...

Done Smiley

Can someone send me 1 xrp so i can partake in this experiment?

Thanks in advance

Done Smiley

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May 16, 2013, 02:03:01 PM
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I can't grant you as a trusted person until I have some ripple - this is a circular problem.  Found it under send by recipient:

rGknJETExscK2JKSee4FetZqU7qRa3trYB

It says I need 300 ripples?  If anyone could be so kind as to send me 300 ripples - let me know if there's something I can help with in return =)

What can I do??  I have knowledge of finance, accounting and tax in the US/Canada - let me know if you need any =)

Thanks!!

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If we just created a ripple account, it doesn't let you grant trust until you've already got a balance funded.  So how do you get that initial balance?

My account is

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Now that i have 50 xrp its telling me i need 100 xrp.
What the hell is this?
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This is pretty cool.
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1 BTC recieved, thanks.

When I try to send more than 0.0001 BTC to bitstamp gateway, ripple always complain "no path found",
What's that mean? Am i do something wrong?

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I managed to loan XRP to activate my ripple account, send away!

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I can't extend trust unless I have ripples...

If anyone could send me some, I'll send them back.

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May 16, 2013, 03:48:53 PM
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I can't extend trust unless I have ripples...

If anyone could send me some, I'll send them back.

rYTtcrA2cAGnSnZSGxqbKYXrafYLfAmpF

same here
Please send some XRPs --> rLwJqZUf8nEfmXnHX76vzMVc5PsbatwvXf
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- trust extended to your address -
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May 16, 2013, 04:06:13 PM
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Well, thanks Azrael, this is damn cool!

rp12b2w3qKUnYDx2fEfoMqPSNrABWb4gEf






could anyone send me 50 ripples there:

rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe

so I can apply for the one bitcoin giveaway ;-), I'd like to test the trust feature too ...

Done Smiley

Can someone send me 1 xrp so i can partake in this experiment?

Thanks in advance

Done Smiley
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May 16, 2013, 04:10:35 PM
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THANKS Cheesy

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Sub. Should be funny.
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Hello,

r9sHEzLv13UUR2STVEMXBRHeEQ6x7CMgxv

Thanks dude.
I'm not sure if I did it right though, because it says offline. I copy / pasted the direct url.
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May 16, 2013, 04:21:52 PM
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Well, thanks Azrael, this is damn cool!

rp12b2w3qKUnYDx2fEfoMqPSNrABWb4gEf






could anyone send me 50 ripples there:

rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe

so I can apply for the one bitcoin giveaway ;-), I'd like to test the trust feature too ...

Done Smiley


So let me tell you what happened next :-)
- I have 50 XRP thanks to Azrael.
- I fill the grant trust form for 100 BTC
- The page answers red: you need 50.000000012 XRP to to this. I try to check my balance:  it disconnects me
- I reconnect: it says I only have 49 XRP, and the trust area is blank, saying I need more ripples (it says a hundred would be good...)

So I apologize Azrael, I lost one of the precious XRP you gave me. Maybe can you help a bit more?

Cheers
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May 16, 2013, 04:31:28 PM
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Could someone send me the needed XRP to do it to r3BLubWiguGLGw31GUk3X1xa4vFaQVvsHU? I will pay back the XRP and a plus 5% of BTC what  provide me tradefortress Wink
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May 16, 2013, 04:33:51 PM
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This sounds great.

However i don't currently have any ripples! does anybody have any spare they could send me so I can participate in this experiment?

rDYAF2khWQkLRGWKssRdBsv79JPVHTzb8m

I will pay them back Smiley many thanks. Alex

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May 16, 2013, 04:41:38 PM
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Very curious as to what you're going to do with this - as you're against Ripple. But hey, I'll participate.
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May 16, 2013, 04:42:40 PM
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Very curious as to what you're going to do with this - as you're against Ripple. But hey, I'll participate.
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That's what I though. I consider ripple to be junk anyways so lets see what this man is doing Cheesy

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May 16, 2013, 04:49:46 PM
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Done ripple address
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Ripple:  r4VfSDJZNX53TRd6nExAmzsPdX7jbRSHf1
BTC:     1JHvM69LhkJPUFjDipfdtWMxEEpHUmqTLb
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Done

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May 16, 2013, 04:59:27 PM
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You can't actually spend these 1BTC, TF has done this to prove a point. He's got a link to a screenshot showing 1 Trillion BTC in Ripple in his signature
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May 16, 2013, 05:03:21 PM
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You can't actually spend these 1BTC, TF has done this to prove a point. He's got a link to a screenshot showing 1 Trillion BTC in Ripple in his signature

LOL, how'd that happen? What can they be used for then?
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May 16, 2013, 05:11:02 PM
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XRP: rHypNr5bFns3uZqVX5mNCCw4y8NJ2EfK4E
BTC: 13rCXJTPpWZ3pA7ogCiyhdSRbHsh6Qgspb
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May 16, 2013, 05:21:58 PM
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Trusted.

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Let's create more debt... Cheesy
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May 16, 2013, 05:26:11 PM
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can anyone send me one more ripple so I can play? (in fact, 0.1 should be enough...)

it seems that I now have 49.99999, after the client told me I needed 50.00012 to grant trust (I had 50).
I don't know how this 'money' could volatilize like this by doing nothing.

is this a bug?

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May 16, 2013, 05:35:53 PM
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trusted!
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May 16, 2013, 05:37:49 PM
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Well, i dont even know the difference between a ripple btc and btc  Huh
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May 16, 2013, 05:38:22 PM
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can anyone send me one more ripple so I can play? (in fact, 0.1 should be enough...)

it seems that I now have 49.99999, after the client told me I needed 50.00012 to grant trust (I had 50).
I don't know how this 'money' could volatilize like this by doing nothing.

is this a bug?



Any time you do anything in Ripple, like sending a transaction or granting a line of trust, you use up a tiny bit of XRP.

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May 16, 2013, 05:41:45 PM
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ripple address: rPiPNSsJpZE8GtXTncAxRxLZV9XYCJZRwq

Bitcoin address: 19uX2dp1z9cHdna61M8KoiLk1ztcAq46xh
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May 16, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
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If anyone can send me ripple ... here is the add

r9sHEzLv13UUR2STVEMXBRHeEQ6x7CMgxv

I would be grateful.
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May 16, 2013, 06:02:31 PM
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somany idiots, oh my god!
awesome strategy against ripple

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May 16, 2013, 06:05:10 PM
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May 16, 2013, 06:23:07 PM
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Anyone that does this should be sure that they use an account that does NOT trust any other issuer of BTC (just to be on the cautious side).  Preferably create a throw-away account to do this.

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May 16, 2013, 09:39:26 PM
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Well, thanks Azrael, this is damn cool!

rp12b2w3qKUnYDx2fEfoMqPSNrABWb4gEf






could anyone send me 50 ripples there:

rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe

so I can apply for the one bitcoin giveaway ;-), I'd like to test the trust feature too ...

Done Smiley


So let me tell you what happened next :-)
- I have 50 XRP thanks to Azrael.
- I fill the grant trust form for 100 BTC
- The page answers red: you need 50.000000012 XRP to to this. I try to check my balance:  it disconnects me
- I reconnect: it says I only have 49 XRP, and the trust area is blank, saying I need more ripples (it says a hundred would be good...)

So I apologize Azrael, I lost one of the precious XRP you gave me. Maybe can you help a bit more?

Cheers


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I dont get it.. Are you realling giving out a BTC?
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It just seems unlikely anyone would gve out a 100+$ to a random person
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Ripple is the King God of Fractional Reserve Banking!
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- My ripple address -

Use CoinBR to trade bitcoin stocks: CoinBR.com

The best place for betting with bitcoin: BitBet.us
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May 16, 2013, 11:19:28 PM
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can anyone send me one more ripple so I can play? (in fact, 0.1 should be enough...)

it seems that I now have 49.99999, after the client told me I needed 50.00012 to grant trust (I had 50).
I don't know how this 'money' could volatilize like this by doing nothing.

is this a bug?



Any time you do anything in Ripple, like sending a transaction or granting a line of trust, you use up a tiny bit of XRP.

ok, I understand, but there, it did nothing, since the trust granting was rejected.

again, anyone has 0.1 ripple to spare? rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe
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Thanks again Azrael, however this does not show up. Did you use rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe?

Well, thanks Azrael, this is damn cool!

rp12b2w3qKUnYDx2fEfoMqPSNrABWb4gEf






could anyone send me 50 ripples there:

rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe

so I can apply for the one bitcoin giveaway ;-), I'd like to test the trust feature too ...

Done Smiley


So let me tell you what happened next :-)
- I have 50 XRP thanks to Azrael.
- I fill the grant trust form for 100 BTC
- The page answers red: you need 50.000000012 XRP to to this. I try to check my balance:  it disconnects me
- I reconnect: it says I only have 49 XRP, and the trust area is blank, saying I need more ripples (it says a hundred would be good...)

So I apologize Azrael, I lost one of the precious XRP you gave me. Maybe can you help a bit more?

Cheers


Sent 50XRP
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Thanks again Azrael, however this does not show up. Did you use rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe?

Yes


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Sent a bunch of BTCs.
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To expose and bring awareness to the flaws in the Ripple payment system, I am giving away 1 BTC on Ripple.

This is a social experiment. Therefore, posts not consisting of an Ripple address to send 1 BTC to may be deleted.

How it works

1. Register for a bitcointalk.org forum account if you haven't
2. Complete the following steps in your light (not a full node) Ripple client:

https://i.imgur.com/2jDs2ol.png

So you can copy and paste the address we're sending your bitcoin from, it's rH3bZsvVUhzugvcYuJVoSYCEMHkfK6wHNv

3. Post your address here. I will send at least 1 BTC to your address.

That's it!

I suggest reading RippleScam.org afterwards. Please note that you must exchange your bitcoins with an liquidity provider (Ripple does this automatically, when paths are calculated) in order to withdraw them from a gateway.

You my friend have probably succeeded in creating the first lot of counterfeit bitcoins. When the price of bitcoins have gone down the pan I dont think there will be many people thanking you...
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ok, and did you do it twice? I got 50 (now 49.999999...) from a first send, no second one.

(edit) however, from your screen capture, i see that you have a different 'sent to' address.
This is not rpkDcgsFcnEhvP2XV8Zo2AvQEdUwk7TYfe
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Lol, i cant trade the bitcoins, seems like i only own debt.

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Lol, i cant trade the bitcoins, seems like i only own debt.



ok for me. thinks don't work at all for me for the moment.
and I discovered that in ripple economy 50 == 0
I'm curious to see further details of this, while spending my newbie time.

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This is an obvious fraud.. TradeFortress is making promises to pay BTC with this giveaway with no intention to honour them.

This is just as bad if not worse than the Matthew N Wright bet scandal.

Can we get a scammer tag for this douchebag!
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To expose and bring awareness to the flaws in the Ripple payment system, I am giving away 1 BTC on Ripple.

This is a social experiment. Therefore, posts not consisting of an Ripple address to send 1 BTC to may be deleted.

How it works

1. Register for a bitcointalk.org forum account if you haven't
2. Complete the following steps in your light (not a full node) Ripple client:



So you can copy and paste the address we're sending your bitcoin from, it's rH3bZsvVUhzugvcYuJVoSYCEMHkfK6wHNv

3. Post your address here. I will send at least 1 BTC to your address.

That's it!

I suggest reading RippleScam.org afterwards. Please note that you must exchange your bitcoins with an liquidity provider (Ripple does this automatically, when paths are calculated) in order to withdraw them from a gateway.

You my friend have probably succeeded in creating the first lot of counterfeit bitcoins. When the price of bitcoins have gone down the pan I dont think there will be many people thanking you...
Correction: ripple, not btc
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Ripple is the King God of Fractional Reserve Banking!
lol
i use this thread to add morons to my ignore list, kinda like a honeypot for idiots!

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This is an obvious fraud.. TradeFortress is making promises to pay BTC with this giveaway with no intention to honour them.

He didn't say BTC, he said "Ripple BTC" which is clearly a vastly inferior item.  I think that's his point.
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Ripple is the King God of Fractional Reserve Banking!
lol
i use this thread to add morons to my ignore list, kinda like a honeypot for idiots!

Lolz.

This is an obvious fraud.. TradeFortress is making promises to pay BTC with this giveaway with no intention to honour them.

He didn't say BTC, he said "Ripple BTC" which is clearly a vastly inferior item.  I think that's his point.

This is why I already like TradeFortress.
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This is an obvious fraud.. TradeFortress is making promises to pay BTC with this giveaway with no intention to honour them.

He didn't say BTC, he said "Ripple BTC" which is clearly a vastly inferior item.  I think that's his point.

good point: this trick lets him to steal REAL bitcoins, not ripple ious.
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Sorry, my bad. xD
Sent to Murdaversa. Tongue

Sent 100XRP to you now. Smiley


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Ripple is the King God of Fractional Reserve Banking!
lol
i use this thread to add morons to my ignore list, kinda like a honeypot for idiots!

Good idea.  See ya!  (Well, actually I won't.)
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what we are seeing here is this experiment, is that any gateway can scam you by giving "trust lines".
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This is an obvious fraud.. TradeFortress is making promises to pay BTC with this giveaway with no intention to honour them.

He didn't say BTC, he said "Ripple BTC" which is clearly a vastly inferior item.  I think that's his point.

good point: this trick lets him to steal REAL bitcoins, not ripple ious.
no, you give him a debt of 100 RippleBTC, he gives you from those 1 RippleBTC back.
they are nothing worth since the 100 RippleBTC you trusted him arent BTC, the BTC dosnt exist!

EDIT: funny to see all those kids (before pressing ingore button) raving about him being a scammer Cheesy

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He didn't say BTC, he said "Ripple BTC" which is clearly a vastly inferior item.  I think that's his point.

He said he's giving away 1 BTC on Ripple.   In order to do that, he is giving people an IOU for a BTC (a PROMISE to pay you 1 BTC)  that can be redeemed by you giving him back the IOU.  He knows this, knows he will not redeem any of his IOUs (won't fulfill his PROMISE to pay you the BTC) and is using the trust he is asking people to give him to steal BTC IOU's issued by legitimate providers that will redeem their receipts for real BTC.   It's a scam, he's running the scam and he's a scumbag for doing it.

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This is an obvious fraud.. TradeFortress is making promises to pay BTC with this giveaway with no intention to honour them.

He didn't say BTC, he said "Ripple BTC" which is clearly a vastly inferior item.  I think that's his point.

good point: this trick lets him to steal REAL bitcoins, not ripple ious.
no, you give him a debt of 100 RippleBTC, he gives you from those 1 RippleBTC back.
they are nothing worth since the 100 RippleBTC you trusted him arent BTC, the BTC dosnt exist!

EDIT: funny to see all those kids (before pressing ingore button) raving about him being a scammer Cheesy

Newbyes are giving him credit lines, not debt. And he can deposit bitcoin in bitstamp, and then withdraw REAL bitcoins, which previously were in possession of other users. It's not so hard to understand, if you want.

The transaction to Bitstamp are started few minutes ago, let's see how this story will end.
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This is an obvious fraud.. TradeFortress is making promises to pay BTC with this giveaway with no intention to honour them.

He didn't say BTC, he said "Ripple BTC" which is clearly a vastly inferior item.  I think that's his point.

good point: this trick lets him to steal REAL bitcoins, not ripple ious.
no, you give him a debt of 100 RippleBTC, he gives you from those 1 RippleBTC back.
they are nothing worth since the 100 RippleBTC you trusted him arent BTC, the BTC dosnt exist!

EDIT: funny to see all those kids (before pressing ingore button) raving about him being a scammer Cheesy

Newbyes are giving him credit lines, not debt. And he can deposit bitcoin in bitstamp, and then withdraw REAL bitcoins, which previously were in possession of other users. It's not so hard to understand, if you want.

The transaction to Bitstamp are started few minutes ago, let's see how this story will end.
yea, little mistake! i have to say again this is awesome, there is no better way to show that a system is flawed by making an exempel.
if bitstamp does accept those and isnt checking the "path" (ie, if they are really "backed by BTC" or not) then they also deserve to loose out on BTC Wink

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Newbyes are giving him credit lines, not debt. And he can deposit bitcoin in bitstamp, and then withdraw REAL bitcoins, which previously were in possession of other users. It's not so hard to understand, if you want.

What Bitcoins?  I have none in my account (except some imaginary ones TF sent there).
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Newbyes are giving him credit lines, not debt. And he can deposit bitcoin in bitstamp, and then withdraw REAL bitcoins, which previously were in possession of other users. It's not so hard to understand, if you want.

What Bitcoins?  I have none in my account (except some imaginary ones TF sent there).
good that your able to understand it Smiley

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Newbyes are giving him credit lines, not debt. And he can deposit bitcoin in bitstamp, and then withdraw REAL bitcoins, which previously were in possession of other users. It's not so hard to understand, if you want.

What Bitcoins?  I have none in my account (except some imaginary ones TF sent there).

Darkmule, you don't risk.
If another user had, in the wallet, 20 Bitcoins (IOUS from bitstamp for example), he risks to lose ALL.

Someone has already lost 1 BTC for this stupid scam.

We can talk about it with calm but this thing has to be stopped... and my messages are going to be deleted as the previous i (and other users) posted here to warn newbyes :S

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its good that those get deleted, this will make ripple fall (mine will be deleted probably too, since its bad to point out the obvious Tongue)
btw, there has been FAR more dmg than just 1 btc

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its good that those get deleted, this will make ripple fall (mine will be deleted probably too, since its bad to point out the obvious Tongue)
btw, there has been FAR more dmg than just 1 btc

Scamming doesn't make a system fail, it merely illustrates that con-men can take advantage of the ignorant or the gullible.   Stealing from the ignorant or the gullible makes you a thief.  TradeFortress is now a thief.  It's really that simple.

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its good that those get deleted, this will make ripple fall (mine will be deleted probably too, since its bad to point out the obvious Tongue)
btw, there has been FAR more dmg than just 1 btc


This will do nothing, it's only a simple scam to steal money...
TF (trade fortress) dosnt use all those RippleBTC (why should he need it? he already has 1 trillion of RippleBTC!). ppl who exchange the 1RippleBTC back to real BTC would be the scammers if you want to be correct Wink its a nasty way but fits a nasty/greedy company (opencoin). anyway, im back later to talk with ya (if the posts arent deleted yet).

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Now that i have 50 xrp its telling me i need 100 xrp.
What the hell is this?

One of the things you need xrp for is to make connections.  Although you are being effectively scammed here, if you choose to actually continue to do this, it is going to cost xrp.  Unlike bitcoin[which has no use value, only trade value] xrp is needed to use the functionality of the ripple network.
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Unlike bitcoin[which has no use value, only trade value] xrp is needed to use the functionality of the ripple network.

Well by the same token Bitcoin has also got use value because it speeds up transactions if used as fee and is also needed for some transactions to ever go through.
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I can't grant you as a trusted person until I have some ripple - this is a circular problem.  Found it under send by recipient:

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It says I need 300 ripples?  If anyone could be so kind as to send me 300 ripples - let me know if there's something I can help with in return =)

What can I do??  I have knowledge of finance, accounting and tax in the US/Canada - let me know if you need any =)

Thanks!!

As someone who's interested in getting accountants on this network I would be willing to send you some xrp.  What province are you in?
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good point: this trick lets him to steal REAL bitcoins, not ripple ious.

What he's doing here might leave some of us scratching our heads, and it might be wrong...but it's not stealing.  Stealing would be if he cracked the password on your ripple account and sent him a bunch of money(and even that's really a stretch).  We should not immediately say that things which make us feel queazy are wrong, and stealing.  That's how downloading things on the internet became associated with stealing.  What's going on here is a different activity, right or wrong, good idea or not.

The point is -- when you put real bitcoins into an account at an exchange, what are you doing?

You're trusting that they will keep these bitcoins in some form and that you will be allowed to sell them on the exchange for some other currency, and that at some point you will be either able to redeem your claims to that currency or your claims to that bitcoin.

There's no real reason why that trust would have to happen when you send them a bitcoin.  Obviously most of the time it's going to happen that way but it's imaginable that an exchange might have some other reason for assigning you an iou, for example it could be a marketing campaign where mtgox gives out 0.01BTC for every hour of lag or something that their account has experienced.  They would just have to create a credit in everyone's account for that amount, and bang every user expects mtgox to honour it

Now suppose that instead of 0.01 BTC they decided to give 1BTC to every user instead, if you allow them to have access to 100BTC of your account to help them with a new lag-prevention system.  At what point would you say that they stole the money?  After they've taken your 100BTC (which you agreed would help them prevent lag) or when you found you could no longer take 1BTC out of your account that they gave you?
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what we are seeing here is this experiment, is that any gateway can scam you by giving "trust lines".

Trusting someone is not a very good way of scamming them.  The 'scam', if there is one here is that people are being made to trust someone.

If I trust you for 100BTC, I am not scamming you -- I am merely telling the internet that you are a pretty solid person and that they should take you seriously(by the way, I do not trust you for 100BTC, as you are a random internet person to me, no offense).

As there's no real reason why people would keep these 100BTC lines as 100BTC(if he's trustworthy, that 100BTC can be increased, if he is not they can be decreased) the interesting thing will be, down the line if people realize that TradeFortress isn't who they thought he was, he might owe each of the people who took part in this 1BTC, with no intent to repay them, even when bitcoin is much more valuable than it is today.  The endgame here is him owing 100 people for...effectively no loss to them. 

That would make him a scammer, and it would also make him so in a very public way.

It's an interesting experiment -- to see if 100 promises of bitcoins are worth one promise of 1 bitcoin amongst 100 people who already have an ability to send money, relatively easily to eachother.  Apparently it is, to some people.
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Sorry I have no XRP balance to create a trust :/ Anyone kind enough to donate? TIA!
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Unlike bitcoin[which has no use value, only trade value] xrp is needed to use the functionality of the ripple network.

Well by the same token Bitcoin has also got use value because it speeds up transactions if used as fee and is also needed for some transactions to ever go through.

That's an interesting interpretation however that's still a trade value -- the bitcoin is merely changing hands from node to miner, so realistically that's still an optional trade, and hence still kind of a trade value.  That's splitting hairs though so I'll admit you have a point.
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interesting, bitstamp ripple withdrawal down.....

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Ripple BTC are just IOUs and cannot necessarily be redeemed for the actual specie.

For instance, you cannot send them to bitstamp and receive real
bitcoins in your bitstamp account.   I tried it with TF's IOUs and
it was not possible.

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interesting, bitstamp ripple withdrawal down.....

I'm not sure what you mean.  I tried buying XRP today from bitstamp (just to find out the price) but
they were sold out.
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ok...but can I send this BTC to bitstamp or similar to actually send it to my private wallet

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ok...but can I send this BTC to bitstamp or similar to actually send it to my private wallet


No.


Ripple BTC are just IOUs and cannot necessarily be redeemed for the actual specie.

For instance, you cannot send them to bitstamp and receive real
bitcoins in your bitstamp account.   I tried it with TF's IOUs and
it was not possible.


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interesting, bitstamp ripple withdrawal down.....

I'm not sure what you mean.  I tried buying XRP today from bitstamp (just to find out the price) but
they were sold out.


yes they are all out of xrp

 I want to see if TF BTC can be withdrawn to bitstamp

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ok...but can I send this BTC to bitstamp or similar to actually send it to my private wallet


No.


Ripple BTC are just IOUs and cannot necessarily be redeemed for the actual specie.

For instance, you cannot send them to bitstamp and receive real
bitcoins in your bitstamp account.   I tried it with TF's IOUs and
it was not possible.




ok...so then these are non withdrawable btc's

does this give TF access to your XRP?

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Over 177 BTC has being sent.
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May 17, 2013, 06:38:12 AM
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ripple address in signature

edit: the deeper i look into this the more hilarious it is. gimme dat fake btc. <3 you tf.

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My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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This is an obvious fraud.. TradeFortress is making promises to pay BTC with this giveaway with no intention to honour them.

This is just as bad if not worse than the Matthew N Wright bet scandal.

Can we get a scammer tag for this douchebag!

If u used ur own brain u wouldn't say that TradeFortress is a scammer...
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thanks Azrael, you helped me get unlocked. I'll reciprocate.
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278 BTC sent.
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278 BTC sent.

ok, now, I have to figure out what all this really means...
@Tradefortress, if you really have a 1 trillion btc balance (-278...), does that mean that if someone trusts you for 21 million, you may send 21 million btc Huh
That can later be distributed to more trusting people?

How could you manage to achieve the trillion btc balance?

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Anyone knows how I could exchange this 1 Ripple-BTC to a real 1 BTC?

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Anyone knows how I could exchange this 1 Ripple-BTC to a real 1 BTC?

OpenCoin does.
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ripple: rwDVJQ2P2oquoSy7HhJvxr75zNKaqqp4T6

BTC: 19PfhtzokofnPzA6pU4n1B34RgSmFhbt5J
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Until wait 3 hours and nothing, im out.
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Over 177 BTC has being sent.

Did you send me my fake btc? So far I appear to have nothing Smiley

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Total of 455 BTC sent.

@lerelerele: you need to trust the address. If you did, I might have missed it, please repost the address.

@lo1: Yes, I can send 21 million BTC if you trust me for 21 million BTC.

I created the balance by sending it to me.
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Over 177 BTC has being sent.

Did you send me my fake btc? So far I appear to have nothing Smiley

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Just sent a BTC to you.

Keep in mind that the whole point of this is that BTCs are not real in Ripple.
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This is an obvious fraud.. TradeFortress is making promises to pay BTC with this giveaway with no intention to honour them.

This is just as bad if not worse than the Matthew N Wright bet scandal.

Can we get a scammer tag for this douchebag!

If u used ur own brain u wouldn't say that TradeFortress is a scammer...

It's obvious TF is has some crazed vengeance against ripple, from what I can tell just because they didn't release source code to his liking..

Anyone who trusts this nut job in ripple shouldn't be using ripple.

But this little experiment he is doing is unethical, it's like asking newbs to send him their bitcoin private keys so he can deposit 1 btc for free, then stealing back whatever else is on those keys.



this isn't just about the closed source code. that is like saying islamic terrorists are bad because they have shaggy beards.

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Can anyone send me a few XRPs so that I can take part in the experiment. My account is completely Dry.
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Posted my address a few pages ago but received nothing, any chance I could receive it after all ^^? Thanks!
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Can someone please donate 400XRP. I can donate .005BTC Back. r3HbprFTPJbmERdE65fCMK1g7SonersxNC

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Tried to but funding hasn't come thru. got ripped
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Tried to but funding hasn't come thru. got ripped
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Can I receive some XRP to be part of it too?

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offline wallet is offline Sad help me out guys! Cheesy

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Tried to but funding hasn't come thru. got ripped
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i need 500xrp will give .05btc. ASAP

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Unlike bitcoin[which has no use value, only trade value] xrp is needed to use the functionality of the ripple network.

Well by the same token Bitcoin has also got use value because it speeds up transactions if used as fee and is also needed for some transactions to ever go through.

That's an interesting interpretation however that's still a trade value -- the bitcoin is merely changing hands from node to miner, so realistically that's still an optional trade, and hence still kind of a trade value.  That's splitting hairs though so I'll admit you have a point.

The fact that BTC fees don't dissapear doesn't really matter. XRP's dissapear and their value simple get's spread over the remaining one's, everyone get's richer at the same time (well, richer in IOUs that is). The difference is that in bitcoin only Miners get richer since btc fees don't dissapear but are instead collected by them. ;-)

Also don't forget that when Ripple gets open sourced (I hope it does in the end), everyone will be free to reimplement the protocol so that it doesn't need XRP to function. And I think this should definitelly be done to properly decentralize the network.
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One warning.. don't buy BTC from ripple trading system, if you have trust to TF.. you might be buying these ones..

Edit: or maybe not. You can choose the BTC issuer from the menu.

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Lol so now i have 8-12ppl ignoring me lol, im done with mass pms.

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Tried to but funding hasn't come thru. got ripped
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The fact that BTC fees don't dissapear doesn't really matter. XRP's dissapear and their value simple get's spread over the remaining one's, everyone get's richer at the same time (well, richer in IOUs that is).

That's not true, XRP are a cryptocurrency and you do own it directly, it's not a IOU.
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The fact that BTC fees don't dissapear doesn't really matter. XRP's dissapear and their value simple get's spread over the remaining one's, everyone get's richer at the same time (well, richer in IOUs that is).

That's not true, XRP are a cryptocurrency and you do own it directly, it's not a IOU.

You are right about this. My mistake to call it an IOU.
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Few Questions
1 - If someone grants trust to TradeFortress(or anybody) just to get that 1 bitcoin. Then can he/she remove(ungrant) the trust after getting the coin?
2 - Can TradeFortress use that "Trust". I mean the 100 RippleBTCs, Are they reflected in the main balance?
3 - How the heck TradeFortress got 1 Trillion Ripple BTCs even if they are fake?
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May 17, 2013, 12:45:25 PM
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Nobody really knows if he has 1tril xrp.
And you can turn the trust to 0.
Few Questions
1 - If someone grants trust to TradeFortress(or anybody) just to get that 1 bitcoin. Then can he/she remove(ungrant) the trust after getting the coin?
2 - Can TradeFortress use that "Trust". I mean the 100 RippleBTCs, Are they reflected in the main balance?
3 - How the heck TradeFortress got 1 Trillion Ripple BTCs even if they are fake?

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May 17, 2013, 01:05:22 PM
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Nobody really knows if he has 1tril xrp.
And you can turn the trust to 0.
Few Questions
1 - If someone grants trust to TradeFortress(or anybody) just to get that 1 bitcoin. Then can he/she remove(ungrant) the trust after getting the coin?
2 - Can TradeFortress use that "Trust". I mean the 100 RippleBTCs, Are they reflected in the main balance?
3 - How the heck TradeFortress got 1 Trillion Ripple BTCs even if they are fake?
I do not have 1 tril XRPs, I have 1 tril Ripple BTCs (I can print more if I want), I would be lying if I said I was surprised most people don't understand how flawed ripple is.
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May 17, 2013, 01:09:51 PM
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Few Questions
1 - If someone grants trust to TradeFortress(or anybody) just to get that 1 bitcoin. Then can he/she remove(ungrant) the trust after getting the coin?
2 - Can TradeFortress use that "Trust". I mean the 100 RippleBTCs, Are they reflected in the main balance?
3 - How the heck TradeFortress got 1 Trillion Ripple BTCs even if they are fake?

1 - Yes, once you get the TradeFortress BTC you can remove the trust line to him, and you will still hold 1 TradeFortressBTC. If you ever send bitcoins to somebody who trusts TradeFortress, the client will use the TradeFortressBTC before using BTC from issuers you still trust.

2 - If you grant him 'trust', then he can use it. It will not change the balance, but he will be able to ripple through you. If you are holding 100 Bitstamp BTC, then he can send 100 BTC to BitStamp and withdraw real BTC, your balance will still be 0, but if you look at the trust lines you will see 0 for BitStamp and 100 for TradeFortress. Now you hold 100 IOUBTC from TradeFortress, who does not sound like he wants to redeem them, and he gets 100 real BTC.

3 - You can do this yourself rather easily: open two accounts (get a few hundred XRP in each), have account A trust account B, then have account B send 1 trillion BTC to account A. Open account A, voila - you have a balance of 1 trillion btc! But unless somebody trusts your account B as well, there is nothing you can do with those BTC, they are just imaginary.

I have a question as well:

Why is this in the Newbies forum?

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May 17, 2013, 01:12:28 PM
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When I try to send to bitstamp it says Path not found. It only allowed me to send 1btc yesterday then it glitched and sent 50xrp then i didnt have enough to send? now I have 210 xrp
Few Questions
1 - If someone grants trust to TradeFortress(or anybody) just to get that 1 bitcoin. Then can he/she remove(ungrant) the trust after getting the coin?
2 - Can TradeFortress use that "Trust". I mean the 100 RippleBTCs, Are they reflected in the main balance?
3 - How the heck TradeFortress got 1 Trillion Ripple BTCs even if they are fake?

1 - Yes, once you get the TradeFortress BTC you can remove the trust line to him, and you will still hold 1 TradeFortressBTC. If you ever send bitcoins to somebody who trusts TradeFortress, the client will use the TradeFortressBTC before using BTC from issuers you still trust.

2 - If you grant him 'trust', then he can use it. It will not change the balance, but he will be able to ripple through you. If you are holding 100 Bitstamp BTC, then he can send 100 BTC to BitStamp and withdraw real BTC, your balance will still be 0, but if you look at the trust lines you will see 0 for BitStamp and 100 for TradeFortress. Now you hold 100 IOUBTC from TradeFortress, who does not sound like he wants to redeem them, and he gets 100 real BTC.

3 - You can do this yourself rather easily: open two accounts (get a few hundred XRP in each), have account A trust account B, then have account B send 1 trillion BTC to account A. Open account A, voila - you have a balance of 1 trillion btc! But unless somebody trusts your account B as well, there is nothing you can do with those BTC, they are just imaginary.

I have a question as well:

Why is this in the Newbies forum?

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May 17, 2013, 01:30:01 PM
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When I try to send to bitstamp it says Path not found. It only allowed me to send 1btc yesterday then it glitched and sent 50xrp then i didnt have enough to send? now I have 210 xrp


I think you posted this in the wrong thread?

Are you trying to send them XRP or BTC? To send BitStamp BTC, since they don't trust anybody, you either have to be holding BitStampBTC or somebody who holds BitStampBTC has to trust you so you can ripple through them.

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May 17, 2013, 01:34:58 PM
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BTC. I did it yesterday and it worked
When I try to send to bitstamp it says Path not found. It only allowed me to send 1btc yesterday then it glitched and sent 50xrp then i didnt have enough to send? now I have 210 xrp


I think you posted this in the wrong thread?

Are you trying to send them XRP or BTC? To send BitStamp BTC, since they don't trust anybody, you either have to be holding BitStampBTC or somebody who holds BitStampBTC has to trust you so you can ripple through them.

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It's not possible to send them to Bitstamp or withdraw them in any way, right?
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May 17, 2013, 03:44:58 PM
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Nope
It's not possible to send them to Bitstamp or withdraw them in any way, right?

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May 17, 2013, 04:02:53 PM
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1 - Yes, once you get the TradeFortress BTC you can remove the trust line to him, and you will still hold 1 TradeFortressBTC. If you ever send bitcoins to somebody who trusts TradeFortress, the client will use the TradeFortressBTC before using BTC from issuers you still trust.

Is there some Ripple address — maybe some throwaway account that trusts that TradeFortress account — we can send these useless RippleBTC to that are otherwise inflating our genuine Ripple balances?
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It's not possible to send them to Bitstamp or withdraw them in any way, right?

If somebody who trusts TradeFortress is holding BitStampBTC, then you can send them to Bitstamp. Otherwise Bitstamp has no reason to take them. I have already said this, why don't you read the thread?

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1 - Yes, once you get the TradeFortress BTC you can remove the trust line to him, and you will still hold 1 TradeFortressBTC. If you ever send bitcoins to somebody who trusts TradeFortress, the client will use the TradeFortressBTC before using BTC from issuers you still trust.

Is there some Ripple address — maybe some throwaway account that trusts that TradeFortress account — we can send these useless RippleBTC to that are otherwise inflating our genuine Ripple balances?

This thread is full of addressed who trust TradeFortress, you can send the BTC to any of them, but why would they give you anything in return? You can also create a trade offer, just change the "issuer" to TradeFortress for BTC and you can offer to sell them for any currency you want.

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Is there some Ripple address — maybe some throwaway account that trusts that TradeFortress account — we can send these useless RippleBTC to that are otherwise inflating our genuine Ripple balances?

This thread is full of addressed who trust TradeFortress, you can send the BTC to any of them, but why would they give you anything in return? You can also create a trade offer, just change the "issuer" to TradeFortress for BTC and you can offer to sell them for any currency you want.

I have no interest in scamming anyone. And why would I want anything in return? Surely this 1 RippleBTC is just like spam clogging up my Wallet? I simply want to do the equivalent of deleting it.
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Looks like there is a market forming for TradeFortressBTC, you could sell them for XRP

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Is there some Ripple address — maybe some throwaway account that trusts that TradeFortress account — we can send these useless RippleBTC to that are otherwise inflating our genuine Ripple balances?

This thread is full of addressed who trust TradeFortress, you can send the BTC to any of them, but why would they give you anything in return? You can also create a trade offer, just change the "issuer" to TradeFortress for BTC and you can offer to sell them for any currency you want.

I have no interest in scamming anyone. And why would I want anything in return? Surely this 1 RippleBTC is just like spam clogging up my Wallet? I simply want to do the equivalent of deleting it.

Maybe you can send them back to TF? Or is there any way to destroy them?

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Looks like there is a market forming for TradeFortressBTC, you could sell them for XRP

.. and buy real BTC with the XRP?

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Looks like there is a market forming for TradeFortressBTC, you could sell them for XRP

.. and buy real BTC with the XRP?

No, but you could use the XRP to buy BitstampBTC, which you then send to Bitstamp and they credit real BTC to your account on their exchange.

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May 17, 2013, 05:55:51 PM
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Unless I'm stupid I don't think I received my Trade Fortress bitcoin from when I posted my address previously. Could you have a look please?

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May 17, 2013, 07:00:20 PM
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This is useless btc, he is giving. You cannot send this or exchanged.
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May 17, 2013, 08:56:18 PM
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This is useless btc, he is giving. You cannot send this or exchanged.

You can send this to any other person who trusts Tradefortress. You can also exchange it using the built in exchange (but don't expect to get as much for one of these as you would for a BitstampBTC).

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May 17, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
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This is useless btc, he is giving. You cannot send this or exchanged.

It is a collectible replica of a Genuine BTC as they exist in Ripple.

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This is useless btc, he is giving. You cannot send this or exchanged.

It is a collectible replica of a Genuine BTC as they exist in Ripple.
Not really, anyone can issue anything on ripple... That's the main point.

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...anyone can issue anything on ripple... That's the main point.

No shit.  That's one of the features of Ripple.  It only has ONE BTC type currency - XRP (ripples).  Everything else is an IOU.   It's a distributed ledger system first and foremost, allowing people to keep track of transactions in a way that wasn't possible before.   Trade-douche is misrepresenting Ripple and what it does in order to steal people's REAL BTC.  



Let me translate this:

"Two words: STEAL BTC - through people I misrepresent Ripple to so they'll act as liquidity providers.  I've been able to exchange the BOGUS IOU's I've convinced the ignorant newbie's to take (because they believe I'm giving them real BTC) and been able to get IOU's from legitimate companies that I can turn in for real BTC."

TradeFortress is using a feature of the Ripple system to dupe ignorant newbies out of their real Bitcoin.   That's the bottom line.



"out of the real bitcoin" <-- you made me laugh really hard. they never were real! due to a bug in ripple a second level trust could be used to USE someones BitStampBTC and exchange em for real BTC @ bitstamp. sad, just sad... (ignored)

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"out of the real bitcoin" <-- you made me laugh really hard. they never were real! due to a bug in ripple a second level trust could be used to USE someones BitStampBTC and exchange em for real BTC @ bitstamp. sad, just sad... (ignored)

You're a nitwit.  Of course they're real.  If you have 1000 BTC sitting with MTGOX are they any less real because they aren't in your Bitcoin wallet?   Wipe the drool off your shirt and drink a cup of coffee so you can jump start your brain moron.

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Definition of fraud - Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

Deceiving newbies into thinking you're going to give them a Bitcoin in a ledger system they don't understand so you can cash in on their real BTC being held at Bitstamp qualifies I think.

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Definition of fraud - Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

Deceiving newbies into thinking you're going to give them a Bitcoin in a ledger system they don't understand so you can cash in on their real BTC being held at Bitstamp qualifies I think.

That's why I put a warning at the top of the thread.
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Definition of fraud - Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

Deceiving newbies into thinking you're going to give them a Bitcoin in a ledger system they don't understand so you can cash in on their real BTC being held at Bitstamp qualifies I think.

That's why I put a warning at the top of the thread.

It's not that simple.  He's using a system that is completely different than Bitcoin in order to steal people's real Bitcoin.   He has admitted this.   Did you not see my screenshot?  Or does this not matter?

This is not an "experiment."   He is using a completely foreign interface to fleece newbie's of their Bitcoin.   Why would just put a "make sure you read about Ripple" when someone is flat out trying to scam people?  Why not just end the scam?

EDIT: I see your MODEDIT #2 now, I missed that initially.

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This is not an "experiment."   He is using a completely foreign interface to fleece newbie's of their Bitcoin.   Why would just put a "make sure you read about Ripple" when someone is flat out trying to scam people?  Why not just end the scam?

It's not a scam. He shows that Ripple concept is flawed in the essence. Banks work the same way.
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This is not an "experiment."   He is using a completely foreign interface to fleece newbie's of their Bitcoin.   Why would just put a "make sure you read about Ripple" when someone is flat out trying to scam people?  Why not just end the scam?

It's not a scam. He shows that Ripple concept is flawed in the essence. Banks work the same way.
corret, and a BTCTalk mod helps Ripple. this is getting really sad...

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corret, and a BTCTalk mod helps Ripple. this is getting really sad...

helping people to avoid a loss of bitcoins.

If you want to demonstrate that Ripple is flawed, just explain, people aren't stupid.
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