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August 09, 2017, 08:01:12 PM
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Hey Pankaj,the accusations apart but I can feel all the pain you'd have to go through in that phase.Being someone who is extremely familiar with the laws and how Bombay Police works,I can be sure you're telling the truth.The transfer between the jails in different cities to make the process harder and bribe as much cash as possible isn't something new.
I tell you a funny story,couple of days back,son of Haryana's MLA got arrested for attempt to rape the daughter of an IAS officer midnight.Funny part is,he was released with no charges in the morning.
Imagine,you got to jail for weeks when involved in a money laundering issues meanwhile son of politicians are free over-night of attempting to rape charges,That's how the law works around there.Whatever the cause maybe,do you still have cases on you ? Are you free of all the charges ? Btw the story that we all know was you were arrested as involved with Daud Abrahim's gang for robbing ATM's for cash and converting the same cash into bitcoins which were sent to Dubai and converted to fiat again.
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Wow, that is one hell of an ordeal.   I wish you the best and hope you receive some treatment for the psychological distress you endured during your jail stay.    Obviously only you and the people involved know the entire truth, but if your story is indeed true, I have a great deal of sympathy and hope the trial ends in your favor.

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August 10, 2017, 03:34:50 AM
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I'm not a fraud or scammer and I have never stolen a penny from anyone.
I don't think this matters around here, unfortunately.

I am sorry you are going through all of this. This place has really turned into an unhealthy place to spend a lot of your time. I get that you value your reputation, but I would honestly be surprised it will ever recover, even if you are found not guilty in court. I have been making an effort to spend less time around here, as I think a lot has changed for the worse over the years.

Even with a bad reputation here, I would suspect that you can continue to trade on LBC and elsewhere if that is what you wanted to do.

Good luck with your court case, I hope in the end, you get what you believe to be a fair outcome. It is unfortunate that the court system in many countries is effectively corrupt.

I hope that your psychological problems can be helped and resolved.
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August 10, 2017, 06:01:33 AM
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I am not interested in the personal story, but will watch and see how others handle this and would likely follow the *will of the majority*. Good luck.
Note: I am only posting here since you've sent me a PM.

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your in jail now?
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August 10, 2017, 11:06:37 AM
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your in jail now?

The guy literally said they were released, so why, being such a blind, are you asking a stupid question here?
Pankaj, my sincere kind-hearted love to you brother as the place where you live, I know very well how tough it is to deal with situations there and when you get stuck, they just drag your family members too into this without any involvement of them. One of my colleagues went there and was arrested due to some misconceptions and got a bail after giving $2500 cash to the officer who arrested them. Such a shame that people like these are holding these high statuses and none can do anything against them. I feel pity for you but proud to see the way you dealt with the situations bravely.
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August 10, 2017, 02:46:14 PM
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If you did not steal anyone here in the forum and you do not seem to have stolen anyone in real life then i think it would be fair for people to remove negative feedack

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August 10, 2017, 05:42:09 PM
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I was arrested on 8th of feb from my home but in news it's 9th and according to them I was arrested from India Gate (I've never seen India gate).

This doesn't surprise me, journalists defend their jobs, even if it means publishing something false they will publish it




After my arrest no investigation was done

the real culprit still free?



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August 11, 2017, 11:06:25 AM
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I have been thinking about the situation for a while and I'm surprised you haven't mentioned anything about the lawyer ? Did you have your lawyer ? If yes,why didn't they bail you out or did whatever it takes to not let you rot in the cell for 13 months assuming you were never guilty ? Don't tell me you used a Government lawyer.
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August 11, 2017, 12:22:36 PM
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My concern is that, even if your explanation of events is true and that you were not aware you were receiving stolen money and effectively laundering it for bitcoin, you've still got a court case to get through and you're now on the radar of law enforcement as somebody who they can shakedown at the drop of a hat.

Essentially the reality is that you could be in the middle of a legitimate trade in the future and get locked up before you can complete.

Whatever your intentions may be there is a real risk of a trade going bad and people who deal with you do need to understand this.


I'd rather wait for the outcome of the court case to be known. No matter how innocent you claim to be, you are facing charges which make you somebody who is very high risk to trade with at this time.



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I forgot to archive the list of people that neg. rated you, so here it is. I want to keep track as to who removed/changed theirs. Thanks for not PM-ing me anymore.

My concern is that, even if your explanation of events is true..
I doubt that there is a way for us to know with 100% certainty that the story (as told by OP) is true.

If that's your main concern I would like to inform you I'm not into trading anymore and please tell why people like Charlie shrem are still doing business and considered as top bitcoin personalities.
Charlie Shrem has served his sentence. Your court case is on-going. Massive difference there.

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I have given all details in my first PM. Please check google drive link.
I don't usually touch links like that, thus a different upload location could be preferred. If the content is text, then I recommend zerobin, otherwise imgur for images (unless it needs to be private).

There is a difference, none of you left negative feedback on charlie shrem's profile.
That has nothing to do with it. Take me as an example:
1) I didn't know who he was at the time.
2) I was not a DT member nor leaving negative ratings at the time.
3) I don't even know which BTCT account is his(?).
4) His situation and yours, although both relating to money laundering, are quite different.

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If that's your main concern I would like to inform you I'm not into trading anymore

So why do you care about your negative rating?

As has been said, Charlie Shrem had his day in court, yours is yet to come. Why do you have a problem with waiting for the outcome if you're not using this account to trade?


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Under what UID name does this charlie Shrem use here on BCT?

I ask because Escrow.ms hasn't red flagged any UID with the name "charlie" or "Shrem":  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=76380 so I'm wondering why Escrow.ms would be bellyaching TM about Red Paint TM splashed about (or not as the case may be) for another UID.

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And again apologies for my ignorance about Indian culture, what is

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30 lac rupees

Is that 30,000 rupees?

30,000,000 rupees?

30,000,000,000 rupees?


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I would like to ask you the same question? Why didn't you waited for the outcome or waited for me to come back instead of copy pasting same thing in my profile as others when I was not there to defend myself?


Because it had been independently verified that you had been arrested and charged with a crime.


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I would like to ask you the same question? Why didn't you waited for the outcome or waited for me to come back instead of copy pasting same thing in my profile as others when I was not there to defend myself?

Because it had been independently verified that you had been arrested and charged with a crime.

Verified by whom? News papers? Did you tried investigating yourself? Did you checked my localbitcoins profile or checked my trades here or talked to someone who really knew me.
If you would have done that you would have realized that I was just a bitcoin trader who was doing his business honestly. That crime has nothing to do with me. They used me as a scapegoat because I was soft target for them.

Sometimes I really wish there was a public ledger of a person's activity so I could prove I am not a criminal. I've always remained open about my real life identity and almost everyone who is trading in India knows me very well. You can ask them about me.
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Under what UID name does this charlie Shrem use here on BCT?

I'm sorry but you know nothing about bitcoin community or it's members.
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I'm pankaj bhardwaj from Ghaziabad (Which comes under Delhi NCR Region) India.
Your Linkedin profile does not exist. As u have stated, your real name is Pankaj Bhardwaj, r u anyway related to GBminers/GainBitcoin owner Amit Bhardwaj?

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Does Sumier Shaikh exist on BitcoinTalk? If yes, can u please provide us his ID? Do u have his photo or FaceBook profile or phone no.? Can u please provide us any of those?

After some hours he called me again and said mumbai angadiya guy was arrested.
This is a learning for everyone over here. U were supposed contact a lawyer immediately after this. In an financial transaction chain, if one point is involved in illegal thing then the whole chain become suspect and law-enforcement tend to go for the whole chain.

After midnight they called me and asked me to strip and give all the things I have. They slapped me as I was unable to tell them the name of my grandfathers home where I never went in my whole life.
That's terrible.

I was sent to mumbai (A city I've never been before) in the night and was told that they will be taking 3.5 Lac rupees from remaining funds and I need to stay quiet in front of seniors otherwise they will beat me and make my case tough for me.
So, law-enforcement literally extorted money from u?

Ps: My only crime was to sell bitcoins to a person without asking his source of money and I believe I've gotten my punishment by spending 13 months in Jail. I've suffered a lot and my family suffered more. I was never involved in a crime and will never be. I've spent a long time in bitcoin community and always tried to spread awareness about bitcoins in India.
I totally sympathize with u, but u probably misunderstood your mistake. Selling bitcoin for cash was most likely the spark for law-enforcement.

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