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August 09, 2017, 10:24:40 PM |
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I just recently wired money to Baikalminer.com for a giant+ miner. After I sent the wire the person emailing me requested that I send them a photocopy of my passport/ID. I immediately thought that it was very strange and called my bank to see what to do. They recommended calling their bank to see if it is required for them to have my ID to receive my money so I found the banks number (united overseas bank) and called them on skype. Well.... having the senders ID is not required at all so IDK why baikal would need my ID I sent them an email saying that I'm not comfortable sending my ID and they replied that it is to "confirm my payment more safely" which makes absolute no sense I emailed them giving them my bank acct. number and billing address saying they could even ship to my billing address. And they stopped responding (this is after them responding to me within 5-10 minutes all morning) so I called my bank to cancel the wire I started the process to cancel the wire as fraud. I then read this post here: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/baikal-miners-scam-websites-as-shop-minershop.14351/ And the guy sent money to the same exact beneficiary as I did Vitcore Holdings Limited in Singapore. And he said he received his miner so I called my bank back and uncancelled the cancellation of my wire to baikal. Also I know it is not a fake email because I checked his email numerous time and it is not a fake website http://www.baikalminer.com/ and their email baikal@baikalminer.comSo I made this post here just in case I don't receive my miner I am going to keep this thread open until I receive my miner in hand and I will post of pic of the miner when I receive it. If anyone has any experience with baikal feel free to post here or PM me. Hopefully I receive my miner  |
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DebitMe
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August 09, 2017, 10:26:56 PM |
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I have purchased from them a few times and they have always requested an ID. Sent it and never had a problem. Really isnt much for scammers to steal from an ID anyway.
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1NV3ST0NM3
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August 09, 2017, 10:27:19 PM |
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I think this belongs to investigations and not to scam acussation at least for now
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adamantasaurus (OP)
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August 09, 2017, 10:31:17 PM |
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I think this belongs to investigations and not to scam acussation at least for now
Ok how do I move this thread? |
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adamantasaurus (OP)
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August 09, 2017, 10:33:23 PM |
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I have purchased from them a few times and they have always requested an ID. Sent it and never had a problem. Really isnt much for scammers to steal from an ID anyway.
Yea I read online criminals could sell the passport, make a fake passport, steal your identity, make you the guilty party of a crime you didn't commit. I read that and I freaked out, but now that you say that they required it makes me feel a lot better and I'm glad I did not cancel the wire. I wonder why they are requiring the ID though it is very strange especially when their bank says they don't need an ID. |
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August 10, 2017, 04:26:35 AM |
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I have purchased from them a few times and they have always requested an ID. Sent it and never had a problem. Really isnt much for scammers to steal from an ID anyway.
Yea I read online criminals could sell the passport, make a fake passport, steal your identity, make you the guilty party of a crime you didn't commit. I read that and I freaked out, but now that you say that they required it makes me feel a lot better and I'm glad I did not cancel the wire. I wonder why they are requiring the ID though it is very strange especially when their bank says they don't need an ID. Hi.. it's not usual practice to ask for IDs here in Asia but some require it for high value transactions. The reason for this is to ascertain and ensure that the payment is legitimate and that the sending account was not "hacked". The ID is meant to give the receiver some form of proof and conclusive assurance that you are the owner of the sending account. As you might be aware, telegraphic transfers (TT) can, like credit card payments, be recalled or reversed. All your bank needs to do is send the receiving bank a recall request by SWIFT and if the reason provided is "fraud", then the receiving account has no chance of keeping the money. Thus the ID requirement. Probably meant to give them some form of defense in case you do such a thing. |
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August 10, 2017, 07:26:26 AM |
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makes me wonder if they're trying to keep orders to 1 per person or something of that manner.
I've bought from them earlier in the year and they had a different strategy...people still ended up with 20 of their miners.
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August 10, 2017, 07:57:29 AM |
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Yea I read online criminals could sell the passport, make a fake passport, steal your identity, make you the guilty party of a crime you didn't commit.
That's identity theft and thats illegal. By all means, you should contact them and ask if they could allow you to cover sensitive information or at least have a hard to remove watermark over the ID. Some sites do allow people to do that and criminals can't use them when the watermark writes: "Strictly only valid for Baikal verification". |
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adamantasaurus (OP)
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August 10, 2017, 08:29:27 AM |
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Yea I read online criminals could sell the passport, make a fake passport, steal your identity, make you the guilty party of a crime you didn't commit.
That's identity theft and thats illegal. By all means, you should contact them and ask if they could allow you to cover sensitive information or at least have a hard to remove watermark over the ID. Some sites do allow people to do that and criminals can't use them when the watermark writes: "Strictly only valid for Baikal verification". Yes I ended up hearing back from them and it seems that everything is ok I overreacted I think (I tend to do that) they said it was perfectly fine for me to send a pic with something saying for giant+ miner purchase only. So it seems like they are legit I will still update as soon as I receive my miner that way everyone knows for sure they are a good company and this info is available publicly. |
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September 13, 2017, 10:37:38 AM |
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Yea I read online criminals could sell the passport, make a fake passport, steal your identity, make you the guilty party of a crime you didn't commit.
That's identity theft and thats illegal. By all means, you should contact them and ask if they could allow you to cover sensitive information or at least have a hard to remove watermark over the ID. Some sites do allow people to do that and criminals can't use them when the watermark writes: "Strictly only valid for Baikal verification". Yes I ended up hearing back from them and it seems that everything is ok I overreacted I think (I tend to do that) they said it was perfectly fine for me to send a pic with something saying for giant+ miner purchase only. So it seems like they are legit I will still update as soon as I receive my miner that way everyone knows for sure they are a good company and this info is available publicly. Some updates? Did you already received your miner? I also recently booked from baikalminer.com for a new batch X10 miner. The same proccess here, the person emailing me requesting USD wire tranfer to the exact beneficiary as you did (account number: 451-906-071-4 Beneficiary: VITCORE HOLDINGS LIMITED). This payment system suck and makes me scared, no invoice, no order id, with just an email  . But I heard about of an experienced buyer they have a very fast shipment nice asic hardware and very durable, and received the miners nicely. Also I´ll update as soon as I receive my miner to help others in this proccess... |
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adamantasaurus (OP)
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September 14, 2017, 01:36:32 AM |
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Yea I read online criminals could sell the passport, make a fake passport, steal your identity, make you the guilty party of a crime you didn't commit.
That's identity theft and thats illegal. By all means, you should contact them and ask if they could allow you to cover sensitive information or at least have a hard to remove watermark over the ID. Some sites do allow people to do that and criminals can't use them when the watermark writes: "Strictly only valid for Baikal verification". Yes I ended up hearing back from them and it seems that everything is ok I overreacted I think (I tend to do that) they said it was perfectly fine for me to send a pic with something saying for giant+ miner purchase only. So it seems like they are legit I will still update as soon as I receive my miner that way everyone knows for sure they are a good company and this info is available publicly. Some updates? Did you already received your miner? I also recently booked from baikalminer.com for a new batch X10 miner. The same proccess here, the person emailing me requesting USD wire tranfer to the exact beneficiary as you did (account number: 451-906-071-4 Beneficiary: VITCORE HOLDINGS LIMITED). This payment system suck and makes me scared, no invoice, no order id, with just an email . But I heard about of an experienced buyer they have a very fast shipment nice asic hardware and very durable, and received the miners nicely. Also I´ll update as soon as I receive my miner to help others in this proccess... Yea I received my miner very quickly it just really scared me when they asked for my ID, but I received it maybe a week later (or maybe less). so all's good |
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