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September 10, 2018, 05:19:01 PM
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I just checked your past promotions! They are unbelievable, really appreciate the creativity!

Indeed, there are some great promotional challenges on PD, and don't forget that they are weekly ones. Join the PD forum and you won't miss any. Smiley Good luck!

@ PD team, I've just noticed that tips from rainbot are not showing in the TIPS RECEIVED section. I think it would be more convenient (or should I say more entertaining, because actually it's not that inconvenient Smiley ) if we could see all the tips we were given.

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Actually it is not free money because you need to complete the quest in order to get paid. It is different from what you said, but if someone lucky enough to get profit then it must be free money then

Yes, of course, but almost all promotions have a house edge that benefits the players.

Is this how the house edge really work? I do not think any house edge would actually benefits the players.

Take the "Colonial Challenge" of this week ("Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"), you are still playing at a -1% house edge, but you are going to get a prize if you hit those numbers. If you play at the minimum giveaway bet (100 satoshis), your house edge is actually positive in this event.

To make it easy to calculate, let's pretend that, instead of "Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86" it is ""Make 1 winning bet with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"; the chance of getting any of those numbers is 0,04%, if the prize is divided between 50 players (0.08BTC/50 = 0.0016BTC each), and you play with 100 satoshis, and you bet "lower than 98", then you house edge in 10000 dices is:

9776 WINS = +1 satoshi
200 LOSES = -100 satoshis
4 WINS+CHALLENGE = 160001 satoshis
TOTAL = 629776 satoshis positive.
629776/10000= Actual HE is 62% in favor of the player.

Of course the HE varies depending of the promotion and how many players participate of the giveaway, and the strategy you use to achieve it.



Anyone can help me to know my last server seed and nonce
I can't find it in fairness menu - previous seed pair

I have contact support for almost 1 month but there is still no answer
I just want to verify my last bets

https://ibb.co/kCLyZp

Check here: https://primedice.com/fairness/previous
Let me know if it works.
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September 11, 2018, 12:21:55 AM
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Check here: https://primedice.com/fairness/previous
Let me know if it works.
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I have checked there but the server seed and nonce didnt show up

https://ibb.co/kCLyZp

Server seed shows N/A
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September 11, 2018, 01:32:52 AM
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I have checked there but the server seed and nonce didnt show up

https://ibb.co/kCLyZp

Server seed shows N/A

I see you are taking this screenshot using your phone.. have you tried to use a computer?
I have just checked mine using a desktop computer and it works pretty fine for me.. could you try it out please?


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September 11, 2018, 03:17:02 AM
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I have checked there but the server seed and nonce didnt show up

https://ibb.co/kCLyZp

Server seed shows N/A

I see you are taking this screenshot using your phone.. have you tried to use a computer?
I have just checked mine using a desktop computer and it works pretty fine for me.. could you try it out please?



Unfortunately , I dont have desktop or pc.
I have told this to support , they said they will find it in their database. But it is almost 1 month and still I cant find my server seed
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September 11, 2018, 05:51:04 AM
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I have checked there but the server seed and nonce didnt show up

https://ibb.co/kCLyZp

Server seed shows N/A

I see you are taking this screenshot using your phone.. have you tried to use a computer?
I have just checked mine using a desktop computer and it works pretty fine for me.. could you try it out please?



Unfortunately , I dont have desktop or pc.
I have told this to support , they said they will find it in their database. But it is almost 1 month and still I cant find my server seed
It might be a simple UI issue as far as the mobile site is concerned.
However its surprising to know that you were unable to get your hands on any computer / desktop in a period of one month.
Dont you have any desktop device around your place / neighborhood?


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September 11, 2018, 11:06:01 AM
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I have checked there but the server seed and nonce didnt show up

https://ibb.co/kCLyZp

Server seed shows N/A

I see you are taking this screenshot using your phone.. have you tried to use a computer?
I have just checked mine using a desktop computer and it works pretty fine for me.. could you try it out please?



Unfortunately , I dont have desktop or pc.
I have told this to support , they said they will find it in their database. But it is almost 1 month and still I cant find my server seed
It might be a simple UI issue as far as the mobile site is concerned.
However its surprising to know that you were unable to get your hands on any computer / desktop in a period of one month.
Dont you have any desktop device around your place / neighborhood?

 I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown)
Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet
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September 11, 2018, 09:59:41 PM
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 I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown)
Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet

Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it.

In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out.

If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team.

Have you tried reseting seed?

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September 11, 2018, 10:33:58 PM
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 I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown)
Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet

Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it.

In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out.

If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team.

Have you tried reseting seed?
If I reseting seed again , I wont be able to verify my last bet
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September 12, 2018, 05:45:24 AM
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(...)

 I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown)
Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet

Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it.

In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out.

If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team.

Have you tried reseting seed?
If I reseting seed again , I wont be able to verify my last bet
What is your last bet ID?

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September 12, 2018, 06:29:01 AM
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 I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown)
Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet

Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it.

In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out.

If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team.

Have you tried reseting seed?
If I reseting seed again , I wont be able to verify my last bet
What is your last bet ID?

After last maintenance, My last history bet ID is dissapear. I didnt save it or screenshot it
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September 12, 2018, 07:16:38 AM
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How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Smiley

Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated.

Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow.

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September 12, 2018, 07:17:49 AM
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How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Smiley

Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated.

Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow.

Good point. Easy to manipulate with.
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September 12, 2018, 08:34:48 AM
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How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Smiley

Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated.

Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow.

If PD could provide server seed and nonce , I only need to verify my last 23 bet (23 red streaks)
I think last maintenance happen 16 august 2018 , not 6 month ago
My first conversation with support at 16 august 2018 since I cant find previous server seed and nonce
As mentioned previously, PD is being updated. There's a wide variety of performance upgrades and a lot of minor design changes. We've moved servers and users will have to set a new seed to continue playing. I'll be posting the full changelog after the update is here, feel free to post/PM feedback regarding the changes as we'll be monitoring this thread.

Thank you

This maintenance
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September 12, 2018, 04:00:08 PM
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Actually it is not free money because you need to complete the quest in order to get paid. It is different from what you said, but if someone lucky enough to get profit then it must be free money then

Yes, of course, but almost all promotions have a house edge that benefits the players.

Is this how the house edge really work? I do not think any house edge would actually benefits the players.

Take the "Colonial Challenge" of this week ("Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"), you are still playing at a -1% house edge, but you are going to get a prize if you hit those numbers. If you play at the minimum giveaway bet (100 satoshis), your house edge is actually positive in this event.

To make it easy to calculate, let's pretend that, instead of "Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86" it is ""Make 1 winning bet with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"; the chance of getting any of those numbers is 0,04%, if the prize is divided between 50 players (0.08BTC/50 = 0.0016BTC each), and you play with 100 satoshis, and you bet "lower than 98", then you house edge in 10000 dices is:

9776 WINS = +1 satoshi
200 LOSES = -100 satoshis
4 WINS+CHALLENGE = 160001 satoshis
TOTAL = 629776 satoshis positive.
629776/10000= Actual HE is 62% in favor of the player.

Of course the HE varies depending of the promotion and how many players participate of the giveaway, and the strategy you use to achieve it.

But all of these numbers is only assumption which we can either hit it lower than 10k bets or even higher than 10k bets. And to think that you only have 200 lose when you are trying this. I do not really think that it is really work, although you have this calculation does not really mean that you are going to hit it base on these strong calculation

Anyway how about if it more than 50 players hit? I think with this big site, it is pretty easy to get more than 50 players to join this +EV club event

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Last edit: September 12, 2018, 10:03:39 PM by Radiante
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Actually it is not free money because you need to complete the quest in order to get paid. It is different from what you said, but if someone lucky enough to get profit then it must be free money then

Yes, of course, but almost all promotions have a house edge that benefits the players.

Is this how the house edge really work? I do not think any house edge would actually benefits the players.

Take the "Colonial Challenge" of this week ("Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"), you are still playing at a -1% house edge, but you are going to get a prize if you hit those numbers. If you play at the minimum giveaway bet (100 satoshis), your house edge is actually positive in this event.

To make it easy to calculate, let's pretend that, instead of "Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86" it is ""Make 1 winning bet with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"; the chance of getting any of those numbers is 0,04%, if the prize is divided between 50 players (0.08BTC/50 = 0.0016BTC each), and you play with 100 satoshis, and you bet "lower than 98", then you house edge in 10000 dices is:

9776 WINS = +1 satoshi
200 LOSES = -100 satoshis
4 WINS+CHALLENGE = 160001 satoshis
TOTAL = 629776 satoshis positive.
629776/10000= Actual HE is 62% in favor of the player.

Of course the HE varies depending of the promotion and how many players participate of the giveaway, and the strategy you use to achieve it.

But all of these numbers is only assumption which we can either hit it lower than 10k bets or even higher than 10k bets. And to think that you only have 200 lose when you are trying this. I do not really think that it is really work, although you have this calculation does not really mean that you are going to hit it base on these strong calculation

Anyway how about if it more than 50 players hit? I think with this big site, it is pretty easy to get more than 50 players to join this +EV club event

It is not assumptions, only probability under certain conditions (for example, betting the minimum 100 satoshis to achieve the challenge): on top of the normal prize, you get an additional prize thanks to the giveaway, actually making the House Edge negative (and positive for the player)
Even if you have 1000 players participating, the House Edge will still favor the player, in 10000 dices the results will be:

9776 WINS = +1 satoshi (9776*1= +9776)
200 LOSES = -100 satoshis (200*-100= -20000)
4 WINS+CHALLENGE = (0.08BTC/1000 players=0.00008BTC/8000 satoshis each) [(4*1)+(8000*4)= 32004]
TOTAL = 9776-20000+32004 = 21780 satoshis positive
21780/10000= Actual HE is still 2,178% in favor of the player.
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September 13, 2018, 06:08:19 AM
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How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Smiley

Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated.

Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow.

If PD could provide server seed and nonce , I only need to verify my last 23 bet (23 red streaks)
I think last maintenance happen 16 august 2018 , not 6 month ago
My first conversation with support at 16 august 2018 since I cant find previous server seed and nonce
As mentioned previously, PD is being updated. There's a wide variety of performance upgrades and a lot of minor design changes. We've moved servers and users will have to set a new seed to continue playing. I'll be posting the full changelog after the update is here, feel free to post/PM feedback regarding the changes as we'll be monitoring this thread.

Thank you

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Still no response from support
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September 13, 2018, 06:27:09 AM
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How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Smiley

Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated.

Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow.

If PD could provide server seed and nonce , I only need to verify my last 23 bet (23 red streaks)
I think last maintenance happen 16 august 2018 , not 6 month ago
My first conversation with support at 16 august 2018 since I cant find previous server seed and nonce
As mentioned previously, PD is being updated. There's a wide variety of performance upgrades and a lot of minor design changes. We've moved servers and users will have to set a new seed to continue playing. I'll be posting the full changelog after the update is here, feel free to post/PM feedback regarding the changes as we'll be monitoring this thread.

Thank you

This maintenance



Ah, I see now, that was second update. I thought about this one big platform update to PD5 version where everything has changed.

Primedice 5 has been officially launched!

This update is mainly an update to our back-end, Primedice 4 was running off restrictive legacy code from a couple years ago. It's been challenging to add features like multi-currencies & multiplayer with our old system so we've completely replaced it with something which will scale and let us quickly integrate new features. The design has been touched up a bit and everything should be a bit more responsive & quicker.

We're aware there are small bugs floating around, let us know and we'll patch them as quickly as possible. We weren't able to migrate old seeds so we recommend setting a custom seed, I apologize for a lack of notice regarding this but we wanted to get the website up today. If the website looks funny we recommend clearing cache and hard reloading.

Happy rolling!

If you made bets on new platform then you can easily see your last bets through API https://api.primedice.com/graphql and get seed from it.
Just paste this code and run it:
Code:
query userid{user(name: "YOUR_USERNAME_GOES_HERE"){betList{iid}}}

If you asking for historical bets seed pair then you wont get them due to major update.

Each time the seed require change you will be notified and button to accept it will be shown on your profile.
It's a bit silly to questioning provably-fair technology if you don't know how to use it properly.

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September 13, 2018, 11:54:49 AM
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How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Smiley

Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated.

Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow.

If PD could provide server seed and nonce , I only need to verify my last 23 bet (23 red streaks)
I think last maintenance happen 16 august 2018 , not 6 month ago
My first conversation with support at 16 august 2018 since I cant find previous server seed and nonce
As mentioned previously, PD is being updated. There's a wide variety of performance upgrades and a lot of minor design changes. We've moved servers and users will have to set a new seed to continue playing. I'll be posting the full changelog after the update is here, feel free to post/PM feedback regarding the changes as we'll be monitoring this thread.

Thank you

This maintenance



Ah, I see now, that was second update. I thought about this one big platform update to PD5 version where everything has changed.

Primedice 5 has been officially launched!

This update is mainly an update to our back-end, Primedice 4 was running off restrictive legacy code from a couple years ago. It's been challenging to add features like multi-currencies & multiplayer with our old system so we've completely replaced it with something which will scale and let us quickly integrate new features. The design has been touched up a bit and everything should be a bit more responsive & quicker.

We're aware there are small bugs floating around, let us know and we'll patch them as quickly as possible. We weren't able to migrate old seeds so we recommend setting a custom seed, I apologize for a lack of notice regarding this but we wanted to get the website up today. If the website looks funny we recommend clearing cache and hard reloading.

Happy rolling!

If you made bets on new platform then you can easily see your last bets through API https://api.primedice.com/graphql and get seed from it.
Just paste this code and run it:
Code:
query userid{user(name: "YOUR_USERNAME_GOES_HERE"){betList{iid}}}

If you asking for historical bets seed pair then you wont get them due to major update.

Each time the seed require change you will be notified and button to accept it will be shown on your profile.
It's a bit silly to questioning provably-fair technology if you don't know how to use it properly.

If I provide you with my username, could you do it for me?
Because Im stupid in technology seriously
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September 13, 2018, 09:42:08 PM
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 I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown)
Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet

Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it.

In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out.

If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team.

Have you tried reseting seed?
If I reseting seed again , I wont be able to verify my last bet

Just for the record, when i've asked you to reset the seed, is so it might reset your account seed settings in a way that it will start showing further / future hashed seeds = returning it back to normal.

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