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March 27, 2014, 02:55:50 PM
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Already done!

Hello!
Tonight my PrimeDice account was hacked and 0.71 BTC stolen by anonymous bad guy. He changed password someway and cashout my bitcoins.
Is any way to restrict password change on my account or make it possible only from my e-mail?
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Please email support and we will try our best to help out and recover any stolen/misplaced funds.
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March 27, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
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Hey Stunna,

I am sure you have changed PD3 quite a bit, but I just wanted to make sure this change was on there for sure.

Today I was playing and tried doubling my bet, i doubled it and accidentally clicked the invert button without even realizing it, well needless to say it cost me .1 BTC

Anyway you can remove the pop up there so it doesn't come so close to the double button?

Thanks!
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March 27, 2014, 03:55:41 PM
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Hey Stunna,

I am sure you have changed PD3 quite a bit, but I just wanted to make sure this change was on there for sure.

Today I was playing and tried doubling my bet, i doubled it and accidentally clicked the invert button without even realizing it, well needless to say it cost me .1 BTC

Anyway you can remove the pop up there so it doesn't come so close to the double button?

Thanks!

In Firefox you can zoom out so that the Max button drops on a separate line (just below the bet field), and this annoying popup doesn't come under the mouse anymore... Cool

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March 28, 2014, 06:17:30 PM
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Any small issues like that are worked in PD3. We're finishing achievements right now and sorting out a bit of jquery work and general testing. We'll probably announce an official date of launch this weekend so users can begin withdrawing funds from pd2 accordingly.

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March 28, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
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Any small issues like that are worked in PD3. We're finishing achievements right now and sorting out a bit of jquery work and general testing. We'll probably announce an official date of launch this weekend so users can begin withdrawing funds from pd2 accordingly.

I wish I could still feel excited about pd3 the same way I was last week Sad Btw I'm planning to write something up to post here, hope that's okay with you. If its not, let me know and I may reconsider.
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March 28, 2014, 07:04:47 PM
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Any small issues like that are worked in PD3. We're finishing achievements right now and sorting out a bit of jquery work and general testing. We'll probably announce an official date of launch this weekend so users can begin withdrawing funds from pd2 accordingly.

Does this mean that PD2 will coexist with PD3, at least some time?

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March 28, 2014, 07:30:10 PM
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Itd be cool to have the captchas be all numbers on pd3. I get the letter ones wrong alot Tongue
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March 28, 2014, 07:37:39 PM
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Itd be cool to have the captchas be all numbers on pd3. I get the letter ones wrong alot Tongue

What, those captchas are letters? Thought they were alien symbols or something  Cheesy
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March 28, 2014, 07:39:32 PM
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Itd be cool to have the captchas be all numbers on pd3. I get the letter ones wrong alot Tongue

What, those captchas are letters? Thought they were alien symbols or something  Cheesy

those are not alien symbols, but you are a alien. that's why .
come on earth and see Smiley

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March 28, 2014, 07:46:53 PM
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Stunna, You looking for beta testers or is it a open Beta?
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March 28, 2014, 08:17:14 PM
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Any small issues like that are worked in PD3. We're finishing achievements right now and sorting out a bit of jquery work and general testing. We'll probably announce an official date of launch this weekend so users can begin withdrawing funds from pd2 accordingly.

Does this mean that PD2 will coexist with PD3, at least some time?

Potentially for a very brief amount of time (few days).

Stunna, You looking for beta testers or is it a open Beta?

We'll have some sort of soft launch for a few days which will act as an open beta of sorts.

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March 28, 2014, 08:37:27 PM
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Any small issues like that are worked in PD3. We're finishing achievements right now and sorting out a bit of jquery work and general testing. We'll probably announce an official date of launch this weekend so users can begin withdrawing funds from pd2 accordingly.

Withdrawing funds ? So our old ids on pd2 will not work ? Not transfer ? We will start over with new accounts ?

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March 28, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
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Any small issues like that are worked in PD3. We're finishing achievements right now and sorting out a bit of jquery work and general testing. We'll probably announce an official date of launch this weekend so users can begin withdrawing funds from pd2 accordingly.

Withdrawing funds ? So our old ids on pd2 will not work ? Not transfer ? We will start over with new accounts ?
PD3 is on or still we have just some talk about this?

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Any small issues like that are worked in PD3. We're finishing achievements right now and sorting out a bit of jquery work and general testing. We'll probably announce an official date of launch this weekend so users can begin withdrawing funds from pd2 accordingly.

Withdrawing funds ? So our old ids on pd2 will not work ? Not transfer ? We will start over with new accounts ?


yeah just make sure you move the funds out before the next "reset" i'm still missing BTC from the last one! =(

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March 28, 2014, 11:48:19 PM
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I'm posting this just to give my honest experience and opinions so please don't bash me.

Backstory - I started playing at primedice a few months ago, lots of fun and nice people in chat. Got to over 1btc last week, lost it all in single bet. Not primedices problem I said, fair bet fair loss. So I started playing again and was a hair away from 1btc until...
                                                                                                      

Now onto my opinions on what happened and how it was dealt with. First of all the support wasn't very good. Any replies I got were slow, crude one liners with a no care attitude until I basically begged for a decent response. I feel what happened is very unfair and here's the main reasons summed up

1. I can prove I'd have won the next 80% bet if the error didn't happen. I know what the server seed, client seed, secret were for that bet and it was a win. I was doing nothing except betting <80 waiting for a red streak. After hitting 3 reds in a row, I know I couldn't have helped myself from going all in (as I always do) but the chance to place this bet was stolen from me by an unfortunately timed error.

Server seed - 8e7d4946baa8d8ac94755          
Client seed - 7446901-0028
And the server secret - 03985af5a27fa30227205acbd7aaac29ab2180c6e0c24358e96b2e8f006c8c1026656338a9a8b6f 48fcc0452fe868e6afa2bc7e57dbb0c1d1cbfbeadb6627511
Roll = 21.44

2. Wasn't told my client seed had been changed. If I had been, I'd have cashed out. If I didn't cash out, my future bets would have been very different. Why does primedice think the client seed is so important that they allow you to customize it but not important enough to let you know if it was just changed by them? On Just Dice, your server and client seed are never touched unless you do it manually yourself.  They told me my bets after the error were fair because 'everything was laid out in front of me' but the fact my seed had been changed was not in front of me so I couldn't have possibly made a fair judgement on what to do after the error.

3. I still don't know why the error happened and despite mentioning it several times, I got no response about it. They didn't show any interest in finding out more about it either, instead just tell me how it had nothing to do with my loss. Because of its timing it's left me wondering why it happened when it did and makes me feel cheated.


I don't understand why they are so reluctant giving a refund in a situation like this (I mentioned the possibility of a 50% refund, still no interest). I was told its not the amount, but they don't like being taken advantage of. It's okay for you to be so cynical about my intentions, but not for me to think the error and resulting seed change was unfair. I thought you'd have been able to see from my amicable nature that I wasn't out to take advantage of you. You should want to keep your customers happy not force them away and make them feel like theres no other option but to make rants like this.  

I know a lot of you may disagree with me but its easy to think that from the sideline as it didn't affect you. Ask yourself this. If you were betting, got an error that stopped you placing a bet you know you would've won... continued and lost all your btc a few moments later on the same bet... THEN find out someone had been messing around with important settings behind your back that completely changed all your future rolls, what would you think? Fair loss? Doubt it. It may seem like I'm just trying to make excuses for my loss, but I lost more at primedice a few days before this happened, got over it and continued betting there. Now I feel like throwing up even thinking of depositing. I've no problems accepting a fair loss after the initial disappointment wears off, but this loss was massively influenced by other factors that shouldn't have happened and were completely out of my control.

Not only did I lose all my btc in an unfair manner, I also missed an opportunity to win more because of the error. Why not take responsibility for your sites flaws when they could have had dire consequences for a regular player, fix them, then you won't have to deal with these kind of so called excuses ever again. Otherwise I really don't think its appropriate to be telling someone in my situation that they lost fairly. No matter how much I try to convince myself it was fair, it just ain't happening...there's nothing worse than feeling cheated by a place you like so much Sad


Peace out primedicers.
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March 29, 2014, 12:04:48 AM
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I'm posting this just to give my honest experience and opinions so please don't bash me.

Backstory - I started playing at primedice a few months ago, lots of fun and nice people in chat. Got to over 1btc last week, lost it all in single bet. Not primedices problem I said, fair bet fair loss. So I started playing again and was a hair away from 1btc until...
                                                                                                      


First of all, I don't understand why you insist on claiming you were "cheated". When you hit bet all the information was in front of you. There's no reason to assume that elements of our site would be exactly the same as another. Essentially this argument reminds me of people who are upset when they refresh the page and roll and notice that the roll over is reset back to the 49.5 default rather than what they had set prior. I'm pretty sure someone complained to Doog about the same issue claiming that PD resets the roll over and JD doesn't which confused them.

 If you have any understanding of statistics you would understand that refreshing the page 1 million times would change your odds of winning. I've sent you over 10 replies via emai/PM and gave you a small refund despite completely disagreeing with everything you said. At the end of the day had you won the roll or rolled the other direction you wouldn't think twice and wouldn't be offering me a refund. I understand how frustrating it is to lose your money and I strongly urge users not to bet anything that they cannot afford to lose and play for fun instead.

I've responded to you a variety of times and marked your case as solved on email, if you decide not to use the site again that is fine but I will uphold my opinion that ensuring fair odds rather than magical seeds is what matters. I'm not interested in debating this matter further here. Ultimately I'm sorry about your loss but I don't feel the fault is mine and thus cannot return the entire bet in good conscience.

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March 29, 2014, 12:08:00 AM
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I'm posting this just to give my honest experience and opinions so please don't bash me.

Backstory - I started playing at primedice a few months ago, lots of fun and nice people in chat. Got to over 1btc last week, lost it all in single bet. Not primedices problem I said, fair bet fair loss. So I started playing again and was a hair away from 1btc until...
                                                                                                      


First of all, I don't understand why you insist on claiming you were "cheated". When you hit bet all the information was in front of you. If you have any understanding of statistics you would understand that refreshing the page 1 million times would change your odds of winning. I've sent you over 10 replies via emai/PM and gave you a small refund despite completely disagreeing with everything you said. At the end of the day had you won the roll or rolled the other direction you wouldn't think twice and wouldn't be offering me a refund.
Thanks for being the good guy Stunna, I don't know how it has to be to deal with this all day but you are by far one of the nicest people i've seen on the forums. Really looking forward to PD3 btw. When it comes out, I'll get it on http://rgbkey.github.io/verify/ for you. Smiley
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I'm posting this just to give my honest experience and opinions so please don't bash me.

Backstory - I started playing at primedice a few months ago, lots of fun and nice people in chat. Got to over 1btc last week, lost it all in single bet. Not primedices problem I said, fair bet fair loss. So I started playing again and was a hair away from 1btc until...
                                                                                                      


First of all, I don't understand why you insist on claiming you were "cheated". When you hit bet all the information was in front of you. There's no reason to assume that elements of our site would be exactly the same as another. Essentially this argument reminds me of people who are upset when they refresh the page and roll and notice that the roll over is reset back to the 49.5 default rather than what they had set prior. I'm pretty sure someone complained to Doog about the same issue claiming that PD resets the roll over and JD doesn't which confused them.

 If you have any understanding of statistics you would understand that refreshing the page 1 million times would change your odds of winning. I've sent you over 10 replies via emai/PM and gave you a small refund despite completely disagreeing with everything you said. At the end of the day had you won the roll or rolled the other direction you wouldn't think twice and wouldn't be offering me a refund. I understand how frustrating it is to lose your money and I strongly urge users not to bet anything that they cannot afford to lose and play for fun instead.

It's not the same Stunna. That's infront of you, the client seed change is hidden. How do you know I only base my betting decisions on the win chance? Like I said, if I knew my seed was changed my bets would have been different (but its irrelevant as I would have cashed out anyway in this instance) And what about the fact my next 80% roll would have won had there not been an error?

The thing is I didn't win so can you not see why I'm upset? True, if I won I wouldn't be offering you a refund. But that's because I wouldn't have noticed the ill effect of the error, and the error was on your site so I shouldn't reap the consequences.

The amount of the bet is irrelevant in this case but I know what you mean. If people only bet for fun, you wouldn't make near as much money though Tongue . I really just wish you could see things from my point of view. I'm a very honest person and not out to try take advantage. I told you I was appreciative of the .05 credit (but I don't know if this was just because Micro asked) but it just isn't enough to make the feel the outcome was fair after losing 1btc which was all I had.
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March 29, 2014, 12:20:16 AM
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I'm posting this just to give my honest experience and opinions so please don't bash me.

Backstory - I started playing at primedice a few months ago, lots of fun and nice people in chat. Got to over 1btc last week, lost it all in single bet. Not primedices problem I said, fair bet fair loss. So I started playing again and was a hair away from 1btc until...
                                                                                                      


First of all, I don't understand why you insist on claiming you were "cheated". When you hit bet all the information was in front of you. There's no reason to assume that elements of our site would be exactly the same as another. Essentially this argument reminds me of people who are upset when they refresh the page and roll and notice that the roll over is reset back to the 49.5 default rather than what they had set prior. I'm pretty sure someone complained to Doog about the same issue claiming that PD resets the roll over and JD doesn't which confused them.

 If you have any understanding of statistics you would understand that refreshing the page 1 million times would change your odds of winning. I've sent you over 10 replies via emai/PM and gave you a small refund despite completely disagreeing with everything you said. At the end of the day had you won the roll or rolled the other direction you wouldn't think twice and wouldn't be offering me a refund. I understand how frustrating it is to lose your money and I strongly urge users not to bet anything that they cannot afford to lose and play for fun instead.

I've responded to you a variety of times and marked your case as solved on email, if you decide not to use the site again that is fine but I will uphold my opinion that ensuring fair odds rather than magical seeds is what matters. I'm not interested in debating this matter further here.

spixel , i will have to dis agree with u once again. When u said that u can prove that u woulda won that next bet , coz u had 3 reds before it just shows how much u don't know about chance, provability , statistic , and what u are doing on dice game.

U still had 20% chance of losing next bet! That is just a fact! And there is absolutely no way for u to prove that u woulda won that next bet.

And when error happened u DID NOT BET ALL IN on the next bet. So u known that circumstances changed. U lost only after 12 bets and in that 12 bets EVERYTHING changed, ur server seed changed 12 times and that is change that changes next bet outcome.

What are u saying/asking just doesn't make any sense.

1 more thing do autobet on 80% and see how much bets will take u to have 4 reds in a row. Its not only possible to get 4+ reds in a row on 80% , but chance is not that small AT ALL.

Again sorry for ur loss but u decided to gamble it , u took the risk , in ur case 20% of risk. And that is it. U need to get over it.

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March 29, 2014, 12:23:36 AM
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I'm posting this just to give my honest experience and opinions so please don't bash me.

Backstory - I started playing at primedice a few months ago, lots of fun and nice people in chat. Got to over 1btc last week, lost it all in single bet. Not primedices problem I said, fair bet fair loss. So I started playing again and was a hair away from 1btc until...
                                                                                                      


First of all, I don't understand why you insist on claiming you were "cheated". When you hit bet all the information was in front of you. There's no reason to assume that elements of our site would be exactly the same as another. Essentially this argument reminds me of people who are upset when they refresh the page and roll and notice that the roll over is reset back to the 49.5 default rather than what they had set prior. I'm pretty sure someone complained to Doog about the same issue claiming that PD resets the roll over and JD doesn't which confused them.

 If you have any understanding of statistics you would understand that refreshing the page 1 million times would change your odds of winning. I've sent you over 10 replies via emai/PM and gave you a small refund despite completely disagreeing with everything you said. At the end of the day had you won the roll or rolled the other direction you wouldn't think twice and wouldn't be offering me a refund. I understand how frustrating it is to lose your money and I strongly urge users not to bet anything that they cannot afford to lose and play for fun instead.

I've responded to you a variety of times and marked your case as solved on email, if you decide not to use the site again that is fine but I will uphold my opinion that ensuring fair odds rather than magical seeds is what matters. I'm not interested in debating this matter further here.

spixel , i will have to dis agree with u once again. When u said that u can prove that u woulda won that next bet , coz u had 3 reds before it just shows how much u don't know about chance, provability , statistic , and what u are doing on dice game.

U still had 20% chance of losing next bet! That is just a fact! And there is absolutely no way for u to prove that u woulda won that next bet.

And when error happened u DID NOT BET ALL IN on the next bet. So u known that circumstances changed. U lost only after 12 bets and in that 12 bets EVERYTHING changed, ur server seed changed 12 times and that is change that changes next bet outcome.

What are u saying/asking just doesn't make any sense.

1 more thing do autobet on 80% and see how much bets will take u to have 4 reds in a row. Its not only possible to get 4+ reds in a row on 80% , but chance is not that small AT ALL.

Again sorry for ur loss but u decided to gamble it , u took the risk , in ur case 20% of risk. And that is it. U need to get over it.

Micro I can prove it. Look at the seeds I posted, those were the ones for my next bet.

About the get over it part.. read where I said its easy to think that as your on the sideline.
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