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August 11, 2019, 04:51:25 PM
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Thanks Nutildah we got it! Again you have no proof for saying so. If you have proofen information, means reliable facts (Evidence) then come up with.

Filling the page with you copy past FUD brings nothing!

Well, I mean, the SpectroCoin stealing hundreds of BTC from its users over the last 3 years is pretty bad. Why don't you start with answering the scam accusations against Bankera 1 by 1? Here they are again for your easy reference:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126829.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2373307.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605779.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135371.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2302255.0

And here's some scam accusations from other websites:

https://www.southlaisthefuture.com/bankera-ico-review-a-1-1-billion-scam/
https://www.cointelligence.com/exchanges_list/bankera/
https://medium.com/@slobodangeorgiev/bankera-the-era-of-monkey-style-ico-d7e2fc0524fd
http://bittrust.org/spectrocoin
https://iconow.net/lithuanias-central-bank-investigates-100-million-euro-bankera-ico/
https://www.coindesk.com/lithuanias-central-bank-probes-100-million-euro-ico
https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/video/view/86737-bankera-ico-bankera-ico-review-a-11-billion-scam/

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August 11, 2019, 05:02:52 PM
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Also here a summary of real Information for the Project: ( This is information which is trustful)

Regarding all the story related to UAB Pervesk, Spectrocoin, Lithuanian Bank and FNTT, long story short:

1) Lithuanian Bank has checked UAB Pervesk (partnership with Bankera, belongs to the same owners, has an Electronic Mony license in Lithuania with a right to operate in all European Union Member States), FNTT  (lit. - Finansinių Nusikaltimų Tyrimo Tarnyba - special Lithuanian criminal investigation body for the investigation of the financial crimes and all related) also participated in this audit.

use google translate (Verslo Žinios in Lithuania is the same as Financial Times for the rest of the world - the most credible resource):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2018/09/21/mokejimu-istaigai-ir-jos-vadovui--12-mln-eur-baudu

2) all the story is about KYC regulations - Know Your Client it is connected to AML (Anti Money Laundering), policies the Finantial institutions (UAB Pervesk in this case) has to implement to prevent crimes, basically to collect a relevant data from your Clients related to the source of the money. This audit had nothing to do with a scam or something like that!!!!!

3) One more time - the story with fines and FNTT is only related to KYC procedures!! Only!!!

4) Vilnius regional administrative court has lifted All the fines from UAB Pervesk and it`s CEO!!

read an 12-06-2019 article about that in Verslo Žinios (google translate will help):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2019/06/12/teismas-panaikino-baudas-bankeros-ikurejui-ir-susijusiai-imonei

and our Lithuanian second biggest news website 15min:
https://www.15min.lt/verslas/naujiena/bendroves/teismas-panaikino-pervesk-ir-jos-vadovui-skirtas-baudas-663-1158840


5) AND FINALLY - LITHUANIAN CENTRAL BANK HAS ANNOUNCED ITSELF THAT on 25-01-2019 IT HAS LIFTED ALL THE RESTRICTIONS AND UAB PERVESK HAS NO MORE KYC ISSUES!!!!
READ OFFICIAL LITHUANIAN BANK`S STATEMENT ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!!

https://www.lb.lt/lt/naujienos/lietuvos-banko-valdybos-nutarimai-140

Second section of the announcement, google translate will help to translate from Lithuanian.

Believe only official-governmental resources!!!!
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August 11, 2019, 05:31:49 PM
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Can you please address why there are so many unresolved scam accusations against your project? Seems like its been thoroughly outed a scam. Care to explain how all of these people can be wrong?
Well I guess you have to take into account the people making the scam accusations. There are, for example, plenty of accusations floating around that the moon landings were faked, the earth is flat, the Queen of England is an alien lizard, etc. Some people genuinely believe nonsense, and that's one of the things that makes life interesting, albeit infuriating, I'm sure you will agree.
The problem comes when other people start to try and make mischief by furthering such nonsense for their own ends. That's reprehensible.

As an investor in Bankera I can only say that, if it is a scam, it's the strangest scam I've ever encountered.
Two years after being given all that ICO money the founders continue to answer questions in chat.bankera.com; they continue to send money to every token holder every week and they insist on building products and releasing them. Why, indeed how, do they do those things if they have, as alleged here, no staff, no offices and no money left? Occam's razor is your guide here, the simplest explanation is the most likely to be correct. They do it because they do have staff, offices and money and are working on delivering Bankera as promised.
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August 11, 2019, 06:02:59 PM
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Just imagine they would start loans on bnk with keeping your wr!

Tgat wpuld be awsome...paying.the loan at reduce fee and getting the WR ... but the system to be good needs WR to be higher than payed interest of loan

You get more loans so higher wr, so you want more bnk so you get a loan etc... it keeps building itself up!

Of course but first I think the forst shoot will be with Cards which will show us the power of the WR

Well they are being printed now. So we will know soon!

Last year we had +65.000 active cards...which could shoot the WR at a decent amount...and so if now we get may be 90.000 users asking for cards...and if everyone get two cards....that would be awsome...I have not read if one participant in ICO can get bith cards? I only know I can get one the Spectrocoin one...but may be we will also able to get both?

Card numbers will be much higher next time. Remember many are waiting on their free card.
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August 11, 2019, 06:06:43 PM
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Are there any non-newbies or Jr Members in this thread that actually like this coin? Seems to be only a bunch of stooge accounts all woken up around the same time and then angry investors who feel duped. I'd like to hear from a legitimate token holder.

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August 11, 2019, 06:08:13 PM
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Nice! We are climbing! All this attention is having his effect on the price!
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August 11, 2019, 06:18:13 PM
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Just imagine they would start loans on bnk with keeping your wr!

Tgat wpuld be awsome...paying.the loan at reduce fee and getting the WR ... but the system to be good needs WR to be higher than payed interest of loan

You get more loans so higher wr, so you want more bnk so you get a loan etc... it keeps building itself up!

Of course but first I think the forst shoot will be with Cards which will show us the power of the WR

Well they are being printed now. So we will know soon!

Last year we had +65.000 active cards...which could shoot the WR at a decent amount...and so if now we get may be 90.000 users asking for cards...and if everyone get two cards....that would be awsome...I have not read if one participant in ICO can get bith cards? I only know I can get one the Spectrocoin one...but may be we will also able to get both?

Card numbers will be much higher next time. Remember many are waiting on their free card.

Not sure what the number will be bur over 65.000cards for sure and if se hit as I expectsomething like 90.000 cards that will put us already in orbit and people really start using their cards as before with SC that would be awsome in terms of WR
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August 11, 2019, 06:27:44 PM
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A very important thing to remember is also that WR is paid in ETH so mot only we have the chance to see WR rise if Cards active again and loand and other products working...but also if ETH sees a bullrun this is a double boost rocket that can push us longer
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August 11, 2019, 06:32:05 PM
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Just imagine they would start loans on bnk with keeping your wr!

Tgat wpuld be awsome...paying.the loan at reduce fee and getting the WR ... but the system to be good needs WR to be higher than payed interest of loan

You get more loans so higher wr, so you want more bnk so you get a loan etc... it keeps building itself up!

Of course but first I think the forst shoot will be with Cards which will show us the power of the WR

Well they are being printed now. So we will know soon!


Last year we had +65.000 active cards...which could shoot the WR at a decent amount...and so if now we get may be 90.000 users asking for cards...and if everyone get two cards....that would be awsome...I have not read if one participant in ICO can get bith cards? I only know I can get one the Spectrocoin one...but may be we will also able to get both?

Card numbers will be much higher next time. Remember many are waiting on their free card.

Not sure what the number will be bur over 65.000cards for sure and if se hit as I expectsomething like 90.000 cards that will put us already in orbit and people really start using their cards as before with SC that would be awsome in terms of WR

I wanna be realistic in here. I think those numbers can be reality by first half of 2020. So we have to be patient a bit more.

I have to disagree here, as they had 65.000 Cards beforr the end iof ICO and before Visa issues now after ICO and 01 M SC users ( even if not active that's a huge number of possible clients)
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August 11, 2019, 07:12:44 PM
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Are there any non-newbies or Jr Members in this thread that actually like this coin? Seems to be only a bunch of stooge accounts all woken up around the same time and then angry investors who feel duped. I'd like to hear from a legitimate token holder.
Come, come I gave you a reasoned reply and your come back is that you want to hear from a 'legitimate' token holder. Really? That's childish and, what's worse, illogical.

It's simple:
Owning BNK makes someone a legitimate token holder.
Making posts here has no effect on legitimacy.
The two concepts are separate.

Admit it, you have heard from several, legitimate token holders.
The fact that you don't like to hear what they are telling you is your problem.
And the fact those token holders are not persuaded by your attempts to browbeat them is your problem too.
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August 11, 2019, 11:07:11 PM
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This project looks promising but i can't seem to find it's whitepaper and do you guys plan on starting any airdrop or bounty project.

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Bankera thread can be included in this list of threads that are using paid shills and bumping services.


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August 12, 2019, 06:48:07 AM
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Good Morning into a new week of the bankera project:

Once again here some reliable Information:

Just last week we had the opportunity to talk to the CEO in the official Bankera Chat: https://chat.bankera.com/channel/community

Do you have some more questions? Put them in here!! :-)


Here some questions from community: 

Are we getting soon Fiat gate to crypto in exchange?
We have been told cards are being printed and could be delivered before end of the year vould clarify which ones? The SC cards? Bankera ones? Or third provider?
Why do we need SC cards and Bankera Cards? I mean why distinct?
New cards will have same restrictions as linked cards? As for example I cannot use card with SC as linked card due to my nationality..
What about Pervesk is it going to offer more services than IBAN?



Here the answers from the CEO

Yes, we have it in plans, but I will not lie, we are not currently working for it, but that's in the horizon. SC cards will be by third party provider and yes they are in process of being printed, Bankera cards are also in process to be issued by Pervesk. Firstly, Bankera and SpectroCoin are distinct products due to regulator and clarity, SC will focus on crypto -> fiat link, while Bankera is on track to be a neobank, I believe once regulatory climate will change we will merge everything in one peace, but for now as we said, we see it as a puzzle. Secondly, we have distinct solutions to leverage the risk of one program being shut down or so, so we would be able to offer the service anyhow. Linked cards are provided by another third party and the limitation is due to their policies, this does not have impact for issued cards constrains (well, I will not lie, SC cards will be for EEA first, but that's why we are building our own infrastructure with Pervesk etc to outgrow these limitations). Pervesk will be offering cards both issuing of cards as well as letting to accept cards as payments, also it will offer other payments methods, it is an engine behind a number of features.

Also here a summary of real Information for the Project:

Regarding all the story related to UAB Pervesk, Spectrocoin, Lithuanian Bank and FNTT, long story short:

1) Lithuanian Bank has checked UAB Pervesk (partnership with Bankera, belongs to the same owners, has an Electronic Mony license in Lithuania with a right to operate in all European Union Member States), FNTT  (lit. - Finansinių Nusikaltimų Tyrimo Tarnyba - special Lithuanian criminal investigation body for the investigation of the financial crimes and all related) also participated in this audit.

use google translate (Verslo Žinios in Lithuania is the same as Financial Times for the rest of the world - the most credible resource):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2018/09/21/mokejimu-istaigai-ir-jos-vadovui--12-mln-eur-baudu

2) all the story is about KYC regulations - Know Your Client it is connected to AML (Anti Money Laundering), policies the Finantial institutions (UAB Pervesk in this case) has to implement to prevent crimes, basically to collect a relevant data from your Clients related to the source of the money. This audit had nothing to do with a scam or something like that!!!!!

3) One more time - the story with fines and FNTT is only related to KYC procedures!! Only!!!

4) Vilnius regional administrative court has lifted All the fines from UAB Pervesk and it`s CEO!!

read an 12-06-2019 article about that in Verslo Žinios (google translate will help):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2019/06/12/teismas-panaikino-baudas-bankeros-ikurejui-ir-susijusiai-imonei

and our Lithuanian second biggest news website 15min:
https://www.15min.lt/verslas/naujiena/bendroves/teismas-panaikino-pervesk-ir-jos-vadovui-skirtas-baudas-663-1158840


5) AND FINALLY - LITHUANIAN CENTRAL BANK HAS ANNOUNCED ITSELF THAT on 25-01-2019 IT HAS LIFTED ALL THE RESTRICTIONS AND UAB PERVESK HAS NO MORE KYC ISSUES!!!!
READ OFFICIAL LITHUANIAN BANK`S STATEMENT ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!!

https://www.lb.lt/lt/naujienos/lietuvos-banko-valdybos-nutarimai-140

Second section of the announcement, google translate will help to translate from Lithuanian.

Believe only official-governmental resources!!!!
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August 12, 2019, 08:16:08 AM
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This project looks promising but i can't seem to find it's whitepaper and do you guys plan on starting any airdrop or bounty project.
I do not speak for the company, but, to take your points in order:

Whitepapers are an ICO sort of thing. Bankera's ICO finished over two years ago (it was one of the most successful ever). You can see the current roadmap on bankera.com.

Bankera is establishing itself as an EU regulated, fully KYC/AML compliant bank. A bank for the blockchain era. Pump and dump schemes like airdrops have no place in such an environment so, no, no airdrops.
BNK tokens do, however, accrue Weekly Revenue. All BNK holders receive income proportional to their holdings every week. Over 100 WRs have been paid already.

As with most reputable projects, bounties are available for validated bug reports from software engineers.

Hope this helps, ToWS.

Why not buy a few BNKs (they're ridiculously cheap right now) and come and join us in the official chat.bankera.com. Bankera staff are on hand 24/7 to answer your questions and even the founders drop-in from time to time.
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August 12, 2019, 09:21:02 AM
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This project looks promising but i can't seem to find it's whitepaper and do you guys plan on starting any airdrop or bounty project.

Hi welcome to our project some already gave you some great answers and if you have more questions please let us know. You can also join us on chat.bankera.com. I also wish to inform you that like with every other successful project we to have our local town villain. This person sadly had a miss prognosis as he suffers from de la tourette.
It’s quite sad for him do, in his case he needs to finish every sentence with scam and sadly enough he also is very insulting with it. It’s a very bad case sadly.

Anyway our project is going to be great in 2019. We are about to wrap some great things up. So please if we can help you let the community know!
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August 12, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
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In case anyone would have missed it, here again:

2019 will be a great year for Bankera.

XRP recently added to the exchange and a lot off updates are coming up for the exchange.
More coins/tokens to be added in the coming weeks.
Cards are coming back.
Loans recently launched
Iban opening up.
They are opening offices in multiple EEA
Marketing starting soon! (with known youtubers)
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August 12, 2019, 01:27:06 PM
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So jimmy how many cards do you think will be used after launch?
Can we say anything on wr we expect from that?
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August 12, 2019, 01:57:19 PM
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So jimmy how many cards do you think will be used after launch?
Can we say anything on wr we expect from that?

Hey hey hey...guess who in Da House? Grin

Well...I would say between 90.000 Cards to 140.000 taking into account Spectrocoin has a base of 01 M users that would be only 14% of the population of users which I think can be achieved with a good massive Marketing compaign (I know Bankera has a strong Marketing machine but they don't want any surprise...they leaned their lesson from the second cards they lost due to bad provider)

I guess this number of Cards could shoot us +50% of actual WR which will not be that much in terms of ETH but in terms of % that would be awesome
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August 12, 2019, 02:08:47 PM
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So jimmy how many cards do you think will be used after launch?
Can we say anything on wr we expect from that?

Hey hey hey...guess who in Da House? Grin

Well...I would say between 90.000 Cards to 140.000 taking into account Spectrocoin has a base of 01 M users that would be only 14% of the population of users which I think can be achieved with a good massive Marketing compaign (I know Bankera has a strong Marketing machine but they don't want any surprise...they leaned their lesson from the second cards they lost due to bad provider)

I guess this number of Cards could shoot us +50% of actual WR which will not be that much in terms of ETH but in terms of % that would be awesome


Make me crazy! Half your numbers would be awesome already. I’m getting excited again since long. I really believe we are going to make it.
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August 12, 2019, 02:25:47 PM
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Well last weeks net transnational revenue of 17,000 euro worked out at about .31 euro per 1 million BNK held.  So if we can generate revenues of 170,000 per week when cards are up then that's a not too shoddy 3 euro a week return.  @ $1,855 USD per 1million BNK, that would give you:
52*3 = 156 Euro per year so around an 8% return on investment over a year!  Far better then any bank is going to give you! Smiley
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