Winklevoss twins' Bitcoin 2013 Talk

[abbyd]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

It was a little bit DUH, I guess when you're born into such wealth you really don't have to be all that smart?

On the other hand, maybe they'll make "Jager Bombs", whores, and polo shirts easier to buy with BTC?

[Tomatocage]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

True, they're no Matt Mullenweg when it comes to public speaking, but I thought their presentation was pretty good.

[BitcoinAuthor]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

It was a little bit DUH, I guess when you're born into such wealth you really don't have to be all that smart?

On the other hand, maybe they'll make "Jager Bombs", whores, and polo shirts easier to buy with BTC?

Bingo.

If you're rich, you've got to be an idiot not to stay rich. And if you're poor, you've got to be a genius to get rich.

I saw someone say Bitcoin wasn't fair because it didn't keep the existing wealth structure. WTF.

Don't know what the guy did. He was probably a bankster.

[Vycid]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

It was a little bit DUH, I guess when you're born into such wealth you really don't have to be all that smart?

On the other hand, maybe they'll make "Jager Bombs", whores, and polo shirts easier to buy with BTC?

Bingo.

If you're rich, you've got to be an idiot not to stay rich. And if you're poor, you've got to be a genius to get rich.

I saw someone say Bitcoin wasn't fair because it didn't keep the existing wealth structure. WTF.

Don't know what the guy did. He was probably a bankster.

Probably thinking along the lines of "there are people who have worked hard for 50 years to save up for retirement, and Bitcoin could take that money away".

Yeah, must have been a bankster.

[noedaRDH]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

[BitcoinAshley]

what's their name on this forum anyway? 

It's "Loaded" 

[BitcoinAuthor]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

[Elwar]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

The education you gain at most colleges is not that different. Most of the books used are the same, sure your teacher may be one of the writers of the book and perhaps have a bit of a better understanding but you have just as much opportunity to learn at any college.

The key to going to a college like Harvard or any ivy league school is that your roomate, the guy sitting next to you in class or the people you meet at various events are the children of senators, CEOs, bank presidents, etc.

And when you are out on your own, starting a business...you start thinking about bringing in people you trust, people who you know what their talents are, people who have seen you passed out on top of a dead hooker at 4AM and have never breathed a word to anyone. Your college buddies. That is why you go to Harvard.

That is why the current project I am working on which costs billions of dollars which was commissioned by a General was handed over to the VP of my company who just happened to be that General's college roomate.

[BTCnewbie]

Does anyone really give a fuck about those 2 lying, cheating, thieving bastards? I've never had a facebook account so don't really know how it works. But I can tell that they are just modern day crack whore wives..... Gimme a wee bit money and I'll leave you alone... Fucking shameless cunts, do they not have any self respect?

I'd take wads of cash for free too, but I'd at least have the decency to keep my fucking mouth shut. Couple of greedy bastards want more than they deserve. Couple of cunts.

[noedaRDH]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

[BTCnewbie]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

Does it matter what they have said or not said?

Couple of fucking thiefs. Bitcoin was probably their idea. Some slanty eyed Jap stole it from them.

[BitcoinAuthor]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

They want it regulated. They're shills for the financial industry.

[noedaRDH]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

Does it matter what they have said or not said?

Couple of fucking thiefs. Bitcoin was probably their idea. Some slanty eyed Jap stole it from them.

Did you miss your dose of Valium this morning?

[noedaRDH]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

They want it regulated. They're shills for the financial industry.

Maybe they see that regulation is unavoidable if Bitcoin is to gain mainstream adoption. It might not be a bad thing for services for Bitcoin to be regulated. But Bitcoin itself is difficult to regulate.

[Exoskeleton]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

The education you gain at most colleges is not that different. Most of the books used are the same, sure your teacher may be one of the writers of the book and perhaps have a bit of a better understanding but you have just as much opportunity to learn at any college.

The key to going to a college like Harvard or any ivy league school is that your roomate, the guy sitting next to you in class or the people you meet at various events are the children of senators, CEOs, bank presidents, etc.

And when you are out on your own, starting a business...you start thinking about bringing in people you trust, people who you know what their talents are, people who have seen you passed out on top of a dead hooker at 4AM and have never breathed a word to anyone. Your college buddies. That is why you go to Harvard.

That is why the current project I am working on which costs billions of dollars which was commissioned by a General was handed over to the VP of my company who just happened to be that General's college roomate.

Skull and Bones baby! Its who you know.

[BitcoinAuthor]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

They want it regulated. They're shills for the financial industry.

Maybe they see that regulation is unavoidable if Bitcoin is to gain mainstream adoption. It might not be a bad thing for services for Bitcoin to be regulated. But Bitcoin itself is difficult to regulate.

So bitcoins can be, seized, restricted from crossing boarders, taxed, tracked, limited in the amount individuals can hold, and the exchanges run by the same people who screw everyone over now. They're bad things, IMO.

[noedaRDH]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

They want it regulated. They're shills for the financial industry.

Maybe they see that regulation is unavoidable if Bitcoin is to gain mainstream adoption. It might not be a bad thing for services for Bitcoin to be regulated. But Bitcoin itself is difficult to regulate.

So bitcoins can be, seized, restricted from crossing boarders, taxed, tracked, limited in the amount individuals can hold, and the exchanges run by the same people who screw everyone over now. They're bad things, IMO.

I wouldn't go as far as equating regulation to all those scenario you've listed. Regulation does not necessarily mean seizing or tracking or restriction. It might be just regulation of exchanges, or maybe of merchants, but nothing too intrusive.

[BTCnewbie]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

Does it matter what they have said or not said?

Couple of fucking thiefs. Bitcoin was probably their idea. Some slanty eyed Jap stole it from them.

Did you miss your dose of Valium this morning?

nah, I took all 10 of them at once. Then I got my cock sucked from a real life woman. Can you say the same on either count?

[BitcoinAuthor]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

They want it regulated. They're shills for the financial industry.

Maybe they see that regulation is unavoidable if Bitcoin is to gain mainstream adoption. It might not be a bad thing for services for Bitcoin to be regulated. But Bitcoin itself is difficult to regulate.

So bitcoins can be, seized, restricted from crossing boarders, taxed, tracked, limited in the amount individuals can hold, and the exchanges run by the same people who screw everyone over now. They're bad things, IMO.

I wouldn't go as far as equating regulation to all those scenario you've listed. Regulation does not necessarily mean seizing or tracking or restriction. It might be just regulation of exchanges, or maybe of merchants, but nothing too intrusive.

FinCEN want to regulate virtual currency under the Bank Secrecy Act (1970):

"Designed to help identify the source, volume, and movement of currency and other monetary instruments transported or transmitted into or out of the United States or deposited in financial institutions"

"Required banks to (1) report cash transactions over $10,000 using the Currency Transaction Report; (2) properly identify persons conducting transactions; and (3) maintain a paper trail by keeping appropriate records of financial transactions"

http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/aml_history.html

Restriction and tracking!

And the DHS have already seized money in Mt. Gox's Dwolla account.

[Vycid]

that was at best a below average talk. wow, harvard education and this is what public speaking sounds like? ouch.

Not everyone can give a Steve Job-like presentation. These guys are just VC's, rich kids with money to burn. But at least they speak in a honest and frank manner, from the bottom of their hearts.

They don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They mock bankers, and their father is an actuary -- they got their money from the financial sector.

What have they done or said that indicates they don't give a shit about Bitcoin?

They want it regulated. They're shills for the financial industry.

Maybe they see that regulation is unavoidable if Bitcoin is to gain mainstream adoption. It might not be a bad thing for services for Bitcoin to be regulated. But Bitcoin itself is difficult to regulate.

So bitcoins can be, seized, restricted from crossing boarders, taxed, tracked, limited in the amount individuals can hold, and the exchanges run by the same people who screw everyone over now. They're bad things, IMO.

I wouldn't go as far as equating regulation to all those scenario you've listed. Regulation does not necessarily mean seizing or tracking or restriction. It might be just regulation of exchanges, or maybe of merchants, but nothing too intrusive.

FinCEN want to regulate virtual currency under the Bank Secrecy Act (1970):

"Designed to help identify the source, volume, and movement of currency and other monetary instruments transported or transmitted into or out of the United States or deposited in financial institutions"

"Required banks to (1) report cash transactions over $10,000 using the Currency Transaction Report; (2) properly identify persons conducting transactions; and (3) maintain a paper trail by keeping appropriate records of financial transactions"

http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/aml_history.html

Restriction and tracking!

And the DHS have already seized money in Mt. Gox's Dwolla account.

If we're going to fight back against that kind of regulation, Bitcoin needs connections and influence of exactly the type the Twinkievoss twins can provide. They've already talked about getting a Washington lobbyist. We know they've got powerful buddies - that was the point of Harvard, right?

The regulation is coming one way or another. Whether we are ready is up to us.