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August 21, 2017, 07:24:00 AM |
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I had bitcoin before Aug 1st. On Aug 10th I transfered the electrum seed to a new computer and I no longer have access to the old computer. I have done a few transactions on this new electrum since. Do I still have Bitcoin CASH or did it get lost when I re-typed my seed into the new computer? When I checked the blockchain to see if my wallet had any BCC there was none.
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dlorah111
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August 21, 2017, 07:27:32 AM |
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If you had balance before Aug 1 and you only haven't tranfered your BCH to any other wallet you should still have them. You are sure it is the right address you are checking? The one wich had the BTC balance on Aug 1.
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August 21, 2017, 08:31:46 AM |
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The seed is reusable and nothing including the addresses will change. It's possible that you are checking the wrong addresses. Here is what I suggest you do, after restoring your Electrum wallet, Go to console and type the following command: listunspent()
After knowing which address contain the bitcoins, you can re-check on the block explorer. Go to the addresses tab and export the private keys of each one of them. Install Coinomi Android wallet (and add BitcoinCash to it), then scan the QRcode codes (one by one) you already exported.
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August 21, 2017, 10:39:21 AM |
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I am in similar boat. I had a little of BTC in Mycelium wallet. After the split I sent the BTC amount to an exchange thinking the BCH will stay and imported Mycelium seed in Electrum wallet. Followed some guide on recovering BCH there but all I got is 0 amount of BCH...
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August 21, 2017, 11:56:47 AM |
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You can't recover BCH from Electrum... You need to use a BCH compatible wallet like ElectronCash. www.electroncash.orgIf you had BTC on addresses at the time of the fork on Aug 1, then those addresses will contain BCH now, regardless of what you did with your BTC after August 1st. |
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August 21, 2017, 06:32:28 PM |
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I was under the impression that a blockchain explorer like BlockCHAIR would show the Bitcoin CASH and my normal BTC without me having to split them. I have yet to split them, is that why it is not showing the Bitcoin CASH?
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August 21, 2017, 06:37:06 PM |
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I was under the impression that a blockchain explorer like BlockCHAIR would show the Bitcoin CASH and my normal BTC without me having to split them. I have yet to split them, is that why it is not showing the Bitcoin CASH?
No. They've already been split. They were split by ViaBTC (technically) at the point a few hours after the split was supposed to happen (as it took a while to find a block). If you control the private keys and there were bitcoins in that address before the split, there will be bitcoin cash there now. |
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August 21, 2017, 08:08:00 PM |
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Hmm but in blockchair it says my wallet address has BTC but no BCC. I have owned BTC on that wallet for many many years.
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August 21, 2017, 08:16:38 PM |
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So I must first move the BTC to a BCC compatible wallet in order to see the BCC on blockchair correct? You can't recover BCH from Electrum... You need to use a BCH compatible wallet like ElectronCash. www.electroncash.orgIf you had BTC on addresses at the time of the fork on Aug 1, then those addresses will contain BCH now, regardless of what you did with your BTC after August 1st. |
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August 21, 2017, 08:25:14 PM |
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Hmm but in blockchair it says my wallet address has BTC but no BCC. I have owned BTC on that wallet for many many years.
Can you post the address you had the coins in? And what was the wallet you put the coins on? So I must first move the BTC to a BCC compatible wallet in order to see the BCC on blockchair correct? You can't recover BCH from Electrum... You need to use a BCH compatible wallet like ElectronCash. www.electroncash.orgIf you had BTC on addresses at the time of the fork on Aug 1, then those addresses will contain BCH now, regardless of what you did with your BTC after August 1st. No. You need to put your private key into a BCC wallet to get out your BCC. |
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August 21, 2017, 08:28:06 PM |
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You can't recover BCH from Electrum... You need to use a BCH compatible wallet like ElectronCash. www.electroncash.orgIf you had BTC on addresses at the time of the fork on Aug 1, then those addresses will contain BCH now, regardless of what you did with your BTC after August 1st. there was some suspicious about electron cash... now their software is working fine? |
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August 21, 2017, 08:43:49 PM |
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You can't recover BCH from Electrum... You need to use a BCH compatible wallet like ElectronCash. www.electroncash.orgIf you had BTC on addresses at the time of the fork on Aug 1, then those addresses will contain BCH now, regardless of what you did with your BTC after August 1st. there was some suspicious about electron cash... now their software is working fine? Yes the software is fine. It was developed by Fyookball (a member here). If you want to increase your security then it is still advisable to follow the steps previous but it doesn't look like there's an issue anymore (it was just the developer wasn't know - but now they are). |
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August 21, 2017, 09:01:12 PM |
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Sounds like you lost it.
I've only done a few transactions(sending) since the split. I can't see how it disappeared/lost it? Here is step by step what happened. 1. I had a Electrum wallet since around 2014, I left it this whole time. 2. Before the split, my computer messed up. I felt it was safest to just leave everything until after the split 3. After the split I got a new laptop, with a fresh install of Electrum and I entered the seed for my original wallet(the one containing all my BTC) 4. All of my BTC appeared just fine, I did a few transactions in the following weeks, just sending a few 0.1BTC. Everything is fine here. 5. After reading about the split, I got curious to see if I had BCC available since I held BTC before the split - so I went to Blockchair and typed in my wallet address which contained some BTC. 6. Results on Blockchair said the correct amount of BTC available, but 0(ZERO) BCC available. I thought I was suppose to have both. 7. I came here to start this new thread. The only thing I can think of is that I have to split it FIRST (move the BTC, then assume the original seed to a BCC compat wallet) then check Blockchair to see that I have both the same amount? Sorry for any confusion. |
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August 21, 2017, 09:23:03 PM |
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Sounds like you lost it.
I've only done a few transactions(sending) since the split. I can't see how it disappeared/lost it? Here is step by step what happened. 1. I had a Electrum wallet since around 2014, I left it this whole time. 2. Before the split, my computer messed up. I felt it was safest to just leave everything until after the split 3. After the split I got a new laptop, with a fresh install of Electrum and I entered the seed for my original wallet(the one containing all my BTC) 4. All of my BTC appeared just fine, I did a few transactions in the following weeks, just sending a few 0.1BTC. Everything is fine here. 5. After reading about the split, I got curious to see if I had BCC available since I held BTC before the split - so I went to Blockchair and typed in my wallet address which contained some BTC. 6. Results on Blockchair said the correct amount of BTC available, but 0(ZERO) BCC available. I thought I was suppose to have both. 7. I came here to start this new thread. The only thing I can think of is that I have to split it FIRST (move the BTC, then assume the original seed to a BCC compat wallet) then check Blockchair to see that I have both the same amount? Sorry for any confusion. No. It's already been split. You just have to extract the split coins. Download electron cash and put your seed into there and see if there's anything. Look at your master public key on a blockchain instead and see if there's any BCC in it. |
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August 21, 2017, 11:40:21 PM
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By default, blockchair.com shows BTC... So, did you flick the switch on blockchair.com to change this:  into this:  So that you can see BCH addresses/transactions? |
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August 22, 2017, 01:03:34 AM |
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Sounds like you lost it.
I've only done a few transactions(sending) since the split. I can't see how it disappeared/lost it? Here is step by step what happened. 1. I had a Electrum wallet since around 2014, I left it this whole time. 2. Before the split, my computer messed up. I felt it was safest to just leave everything until after the split 3. After the split I got a new laptop, with a fresh install of Electrum and I entered the seed for my original wallet(the one containing all my BTC) 4. All of my BTC appeared just fine, I did a few transactions in the following weeks, just sending a few 0.1BTC. Everything is fine here. 5. After reading about the split, I got curious to see if I had BCC available since I held BTC before the split - so I went to Blockchair and typed in my wallet address which contained some BTC. 6. Results on Blockchair said the correct amount of BTC available, but 0(ZERO) BCC available. I thought I was suppose to have both. 7. I came here to start this new thread. The only thing I can think of is that I have to split it FIRST (move the BTC, then assume the original seed to a BCC compat wallet) then check Blockchair to see that I have both the same amount? Sorry for any confusion. I mean, if you didn't send it anywhere then you should still have it unless someone compromised your addresses. It's just a chain split so the addresses and keys all stay the same. Just a matter of finding a working wallet. |
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August 22, 2017, 08:53:50 PM |
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 Sorry I fail so hard, I can't even embed an image in this thread. That's because your user level is a newbie, newbies can't post images. Here is your image: Can you use your master public key instead of searching individual addresses? Go to wallet>master public key to get it - if it's on anything it'll be there and your public key can't be used to get anything other than a list of addresses that it has. |
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August 23, 2017, 03:14:43 AM |
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Ok, so it seems that you may be getting a little confused with how the BTC and BCH fork actually works... and where your coins should be.
You stated that you moved BTC AFTER the fork, and then checked the addresses that currently have BTC and you see BTC, but no BCH... that is EXPECTED behaviour. You moved BTC to a new address AFTER the fork, that leaves the BCH on the OLD address.
That is why you see BCH on the "OLD" addresses ("last seen date states before the fork")... ONLY addresses that contained BTC at the moment the chains forked, will contain any BCH now. What you've done with BTC AFTER the fork occurred won't impact on any BCH.
So typing your addresses that currently hold BTC into blockchair, won't show BCH if those addresses received BTC AFTER the fork... you need to type in the addresses that had BTC BEFORE the fork.
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