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April 25, 2018, 05:05:23 PM |
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i remember that Social Send was incredibly forthcoming and straightforward about market prices , it was stated after the first peak in january that prices would return to nearly the same as before the peak and buying could begin again at that price fairly before the market moves on again. top notch team. hoping for another huge dip.
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April 25, 2018, 06:07:27 PM |
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speaking of the market and not the project, I'm sure that we won't see any real price action until it's on cryptopia. Im sure that a few people may have picked up some node worthy portions of the market and put them away in a wallet, but unless it's in the same space as the profits being made on other markets, the price simply is not going to sustain or make strides. According to the market specs (which i disagree with and can't help but wonder why the numbers aren't more flush and manageable) it would require over a billion dollars invested to the market to achieve a dollar standard per share. Thats a lot of high level investment. i simply don't see the preparedness of this project to accept or call in that much cash yet. if we get a spike, i couldn't say if it would run past 10 cents or how long it could sit around 25 cents before everyone who's been waiting since day one runs off to divest elsewhere. keep all of that in mind. i see the application, but we're still waiting for a firm foothold on the concept and the application that underlies the innovation.
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April 25, 2018, 11:15:59 PM |
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too much is riding on the community to do. the money should have already been settled, the entire market capped from day one to the desired price and full control of the network.  |
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April 25, 2018, 11:40:21 PM |
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Congrats to all ICO "investors". Price went through 200 sat, short term target is 100 satoshi and probably 0.
Never buy russian ICO. It's always a money grab, then scammers will blatantly run or continue feeding you with bullshit like "we want to make a product done". The product is always a bullshit and no one really interested in it and of course "product" does not cost the amount of money raised and never will even if it will be trading on NASDAQ or NYSE. All ICO "investor" want is a hype and pump, it will never happen with russian ICO. They are just not capable and not interested in bribing a bucket shop like binance or even cryptopia (lol). The tradeogre was probably a trick in order to kill it and render DOA. It's like getting rid of evidence. If they run it's a crime, failed project is a failed project, basically less years in a jail in worst case.
Also, I heard they are going to pour extra shitcoins on ICO suckers if this crap will not pump to ICO price this year. It will indeed hurt not only ICO morons, but also it will hurt those who think this coin is cheap at current price (> 90% discount from ICO).
Actually over 90% or even 95% of ICOs cannot be sucessful at the end, doesnt matter when it comes from, so i dont agree that project fails just because it comes from Russia. ICO is a just an easy money to raise during the crypto hype nowadays, but any ICO needs to be reaserched before investing and the main subject is to bring some new ideas but not reiterate existing technologies. |
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April 26, 2018, 01:32:35 AM |
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Congrats to all ICO "investors". Price went through 200 sat, short term target is 100 satoshi and probably 0.
Never buy russian ICO. It's always a money grab, then scammers will blatantly run or continue feeding you with bullshit like "we want to make a product done". The product is always a bullshit and no one really interested in it and of course "product" does not cost the amount of money raised and never will even if it will be trading on NASDAQ or NYSE. All ICO "investor" want is a hype and pump, it will never happen with russian ICO. They are just not capable and not interested in bribing a bucket shop like binance or even cryptopia (lol). The tradeogre was probably a trick in order to kill it and render DOA. It's like getting rid of evidence. If they run it's a crime, failed project is a failed project, basically less years in a jail in worst case.
Also, I heard they are going to pour extra shitcoins on ICO suckers if this crap will not pump to ICO price this year. It will indeed hurt not only ICO morons, but also it will hurt those who think this coin is cheap at current price (> 90% discount from ICO).
But it wasn't even a Russian ICO. It was run out of the US. Both the founders also live in the US, were educated in the US and have extensive professional backgrounds working for US companies. |
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April 26, 2018, 01:58:30 AM |
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Congrats to all ICO "investors". Price went through 200 sat, short term target is 100 satoshi and probably 0.
Never buy russian ICO. It's always a money grab, then scammers will blatantly run or continue feeding you with bullshit like "we want to make a product done". The product is always a bullshit and no one really interested in it and of course "product" does not cost the amount of money raised and never will even if it will be trading on NASDAQ or NYSE. All ICO "investor" want is a hype and pump, it will never happen with russian ICO. They are just not capable and not interested in bribing a bucket shop like binance or even cryptopia (lol). The tradeogre was probably a trick in order to kill it and render DOA. It's like getting rid of evidence. If they run it's a crime, failed project is a failed project, basically less years in a jail in worst case.
Also, I heard they are going to pour extra shitcoins on ICO suckers if this crap will not pump to ICO price this year. It will indeed hurt not only ICO morons, but also it will hurt those who think this coin is cheap at current price (> 90% discount from ICO).
But it wasn't even a Russian ICO. It was run out of the US. Both the founders also live in the US, were educated in the US and have extensive professional backgrounds working for US companies. EXACTLY. U.S.A education is some of the worst in the entire developed world. It explains why none of the numbers really add up properly. The product exists, but it's barely online and the market was built on numbers that make little sense to the public. |
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April 26, 2018, 02:33:02 AM |
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Congrats to all ICO "investors". Price went through 200 sat, short term target is 100 satoshi and probably 0.
Never buy russian ICO. It's always a money grab, then scammers will blatantly run or continue feeding you with bullshit like "we want to make a product done". The product is always a bullshit and no one really interested in it and of course "product" does not cost the amount of money raised and never will even if it will be trading on NASDAQ or NYSE. All ICO "investor" want is a hype and pump, it will never happen with russian ICO. They are just not capable and not interested in bribing a bucket shop like binance or even cryptopia (lol). The tradeogre was probably a trick in order to kill it and render DOA. It's like getting rid of evidence. If they run it's a crime, failed project is a failed project, basically less years in a jail in worst case.
Also, I heard they are going to pour extra shitcoins on ICO suckers if this crap will not pump to ICO price this year. It will indeed hurt not only ICO morons, but also it will hurt those who think this coin is cheap at current price (> 90% discount from ICO).
But it wasn't even a Russian ICO. It was run out of the US. Both the founders also live in the US, were educated in the US and have extensive professional backgrounds working for US companies. EXACTLY. U.S.A education is some of the worst in the entire developed world. It explains why none of the numbers really add up properly. The product exists, but it's barely online and the market was built on numbers that make little sense to the public. Lol. So now the problem is not that it was a "Russian ICO"( which it wasn't), but the problem is the founders were educated in the US. What total nonsense. |
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April 26, 2018, 02:49:40 AM |
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speaking of the market and not the project, I'm sure that we won't see any real price action until it's on cryptopia. Im sure that a few people may have picked up some node worthy portions of the market and put them away in a wallet, but unless it's in the same space as the profits being made on other markets, the price simply is not going to sustain or make strides. According to the market specs (which i disagree with and can't help but wonder why the numbers aren't more flush and manageable) it would require over a billion dollars invested to the market to achieve a dollar standard per share. Thats a lot of high level investment. i simply don't see the preparedness of this project to accept or call in that much cash yet. if we get a spike, i couldn't say if it would run past 10 cents or how long it could sit around 25 cents before everyone who's been waiting since day one runs off to divest elsewhere. keep all of that in mind. i see the application, but we're still waiting for a firm foothold on the concept and the application that underlies the innovation.
Well in this moment if makes a market cap of 167 mil it will be 1$  so buy now. And I agree with you they need a bigger exchange. |
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April 26, 2018, 02:50:27 AM |
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According to the market specs (which i disagree with and can't help but wonder why the numbers aren't more flush and manageable) it would require over a billion dollars invested to the market to achieve a dollar standard per share. Thats a lot of high level investment. i simply don't see the preparedness of this project to accept or call in that much cash yet. if we get a spike, i couldn't say if it would run past 10 cents or how long it could sit around 25 cents before everyone who's been waiting since day one runs off to divest elsewhere. keep all of that in mind. i see the application, but we're still waiting for a firm foothold on the concept and the application that underlies the innovation.
No, it would not require a billion dollars invested to achieve a dollar $1 USD price tag. Current coin price is 0.018 USD. From CMC, the circulating supply is around 168 million, so the current market cap is = to 3 Million USD. $1/ 0.018= 55.5 3 Million x 55.5= $166 Million. So at the price of $1USD the current Graft market cap would be around 166 million, not 1 Billion. |
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To all hi) I can't send a coin to the exchange in a purse gives an error message how to correct it??? I tried with mobile most too coins don't go to the exchange the mistake writes! What to do???
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April 26, 2018, 12:56:31 PM |
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I use the Tradeogre exchange and on it there is nothing goes from the computer not from the smartphone gives an error message! How to correct it???
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April 26, 2018, 01:11:05 PM |
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How many millions you scammed via ICO? Buy craptopia listing. |
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April 26, 2018, 03:19:14 PM |
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To all hi) I can't send a coin to the exchange in a purse gives an error message how to correct it??? I tried with mobile most too coins don't go to the exchange the mistake writes! What to do???
Same here |
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April 26, 2018, 06:18:44 PM |
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So the timestamp attacks continue albeit with less severity.
I'm really losing faith in the technical chops of the Graft team.
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April 26, 2018, 06:19:19 PM |
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So the timestamp attacks continue albeit with less severity.
I'm really losing faith in the technical chops of the Graft team.
Timestamp problems again? |
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April 26, 2018, 06:33:20 PM |
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So the timestamp attacks continue albeit with less severity.
I'm really losing faith in the technical chops of the Graft team.
Don't lose your faith bro I think its a very good project they will solve the technical problems and I don't understand why so much interest for the attackers in this coin |
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April 26, 2018, 07:45:39 PM |
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Hello, how to bring coins to the exchange? Or they in general can't be spent, I with this question not one at a forum!
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April 26, 2018, 09:17:09 PM |
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on an optimistic note, the ico only brought in about 6 million dollars of the 10 million cap. unfortunately, the entire market is crashing before it makes it's way to a larger market. the team made the poor decision of starting an ico before having a fully implemented product and no one sees the silver lining as of yet. the most defining feature of multi currency acceptance hasnt been implemented and wont until the end of this year according to the website. i dont expect as much as 10 cents from this before next year, although certain projections state over 50 cents. i am disapointed so far. i cashed out of social send two weeks before the spike to cash in on this and now that money is lost and this project is all but shit.
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April 26, 2018, 10:50:12 PM |
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on an optimistic note, the ico only brought in about 6 million dollars of the 10 million cap. unfortunately, the entire market is crashing before it makes it's way to a larger market. the team made the poor decision of starting an ico before having a fully implemented product and no one sees the silver lining as of yet. the most defining feature of multi currency acceptance hasnt been implemented and wont until the end of this year according to the website. i dont expect as much as 10 cents from this before next year, although certain projections state over 50 cents. i am disapointed so far. i cashed out of social send two weeks before the spike to cash in on this and now that money is lost and this project is all but shit.
Time will say if is a good project or not I think it will be 30 cents before next year  . |
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