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January 06, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
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These ratings are from people who are not in your trust network. They may be totally inaccurate.

Not manually but automatically every time when you open smb's Trust?

Sometimes I forget to click on "Show ratings". Any checkbox in account settings for this?

Yes you can. Take a look at the settings in your profile under forum profile information there is check box which you can check.

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January 06, 2014, 08:40:58 PM
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January 21, 2014, 02:07:59 AM
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Yeah, the default trust system has blemished me too because I got on the wrong side of TradeFortress before he got on the wrong side of nearly everyone.  Because his opinion was by default golden, I was shamed.  However because I'm not a trader it hasn't really cost me anything.

Anyway, I'm just attesting to the complexities and difficulties of the trust system.
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January 21, 2014, 05:43:34 PM
Last edit: January 21, 2014, 07:38:32 PM by Welsh
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That really should be checked by default.

I agree. I have it checked by default, and I think the site should have it checked by default because I see this all the time that no one checks untrusted feedback because it's hidden.

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January 21, 2014, 07:34:06 PM
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The trust system needs some serious looking at, an eBay style feedback policy would be ideal where untrue feedbacks can be removed. You should get a +1 for every good feedback score you get.
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January 21, 2014, 07:37:37 PM
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The trust system needs some serious looking at, an eBay style feedback policy would be ideal where untrue feedbacks can be removed. You should get a +1 for every good feedback score you get.


The trust system is not moderated which is a better way than having staff getting overwhelmed with the amount of requests they would have for removing false feedback. Also, the reason why staff don't get involved is because how are they suppose to know that the feedback was false? It would cause a lot of problems.

Going on to the second idea involving the "+1 for every good feedback score you get" comment. This could be very easily abused with sock puppets. There's a reason why we have untrusted feedback and trusted feedback.

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January 21, 2014, 07:41:36 PM
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The trust system needs some serious looking at, an eBay style feedback policy would be ideal where untrue feedbacks can be removed. You should get a +1 for every good feedback score you get.


The trust system is not moderated which is a better way than having staff getting overwhelmed with the amount of requests they would have for removing false feedback. Also, the reason why staff don't get involved is because how are they suppose to know that the feedback was false? It would cause a lot of problems.

Going on to the second idea involving the "+1 for every good feedback score you get" comment. This could be very easily abused with sock puppets. There's a reason why we have untrusted feedback and trusted feedback.

Yeah I suppose it would have good points and bad points, perhaps only being allowed to leave trust if you have actually done business with someone may be a good solution.
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January 21, 2014, 07:45:07 PM
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Yeah I suppose it would have good points and bad points, perhaps only being allowed to leave trust if you have actually done business with someone may be a good solution.

How would you define that? This is a forum and not a fully focused marketplace, it would be very hard to determine if person A has dealt with person B. Also, a lot of people deal other places such a bitmit (when it was open) and have left good/bad feedback here.

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January 21, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
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Yeah I suppose it would have good points and bad points, perhaps only being allowed to leave trust if you have actually done business with someone may be a good solution.

How would you define that? This is a forum and not a fully focused marketplace, it would be very hard to determine if person A has dealt with person B. Also, a lot of people deal other places such a bitmit (when it was open) and have left good/bad feedback here.

OK, I'll stand corrected - lets leave it as it is  Smiley
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January 28, 2014, 05:10:06 PM
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I think it would help new people if someone would sticky this thread.
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February 19, 2014, 08:23:12 PM
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Note the 21 million BTC risked ratings sent and received by CrazyRabbi. Anyone leaving those should be banned or their trust ratings deleted at least, as long as that many BTC don't yet exist.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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February 19, 2014, 08:40:03 PM
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Note the 21 million BTC risked ratings sent and received by CrazyRabbi. Anyone leaving those should be banned or their trust ratings deleted at least, as long as that many BTC don't yet exist.

They'll just say the trust system isn't moderated probably, but I had one from a user that just wrote LOL on loads of peoples profiles and they all disappeared so I don't know what happened to them.
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February 19, 2014, 08:50:27 PM
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Note the 21 million BTC risked ratings sent and received by CrazyRabbi. Anyone leaving those should be banned or their trust ratings deleted at least, as long as that many BTC don't yet exist.

They'll just say the trust system isn't moderated probably, but I had one from a user that just wrote LOL on loads of peoples profiles and they all disappeared so I don't know what happened to them.

The trust ghost removed them of course DUH LMAO

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February 20, 2014, 01:07:26 AM
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Note the 21 million BTC risked ratings sent and received by CrazyRabbi. Anyone leaving those should be banned or their trust ratings deleted at least, as long as that many BTC don't yet exist.

Well, I'd note that it's possible to risk or steal more capital than exists in BTC, but CrazyRabbi's ratings certainly don't seem to be legitimate anyhow.

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February 20, 2014, 04:45:16 AM
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The trust system needs some serious looking at, an eBay style feedback policy would be ideal where untrue feedbacks can be removed. You should get a +1 for every good feedback score you get.


The trust system is not moderated which is a better way than having staff getting overwhelmed with the amount of requests they would have for removing false feedback. Also, the reason why staff don't get involved is because how are they suppose to know that the feedback was false? It would cause a lot of problems.

Going on to the second idea involving the "+1 for every good feedback score you get" comment. This could be very easily abused with sock puppets. There's a reason why we have untrusted feedback and trusted feedback.

Yeah I suppose it would have good points and bad points, perhaps only being allowed to leave trust if you have actually done business with someone may be a good solution.
This is forum, not a marketplace such as localbitcoins so that not an easy thing to do
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February 26, 2014, 05:24:00 AM
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Theymos,

Can you remove TradeFortress from default trust?

Just last week someone was asking me about why I have a negative trust rating.  I said it was from TradeFortress as to my knowledge he's the only one who had any beef with me (and I never even traded with him FWIW).

Anyway, after the whole input.io and coinlenders scandal, I'm sorta thinking he shouldn't be on the default trust list.

Anyhelp?
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February 26, 2014, 05:37:08 AM
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Theymos,

Can you remove TradeFortress from default trust?

Just last week someone was asking me about why I have a negative trust rating.  I said it was from TradeFortress as to my knowledge he's the only one who had any beef with me (and I never even traded with him FWIW).

Anyway, after the whole input.io and coinlenders scandal, I'm sorta thinking he shouldn't be on the default trust list.

Anyhelp?

Tradefortress isn't on the default trust list. He was removed shortly after the Inputs.io thing

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February 26, 2014, 05:45:44 AM
Last edit: February 26, 2014, 06:02:03 AM by freedomno1
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Theymos,

Can you remove TradeFortress from default trust?

Just last week someone was asking me about why I have a negative trust rating.  I said it was from TradeFortress as to my knowledge he's the only one who had any beef with me (and I never even traded with him FWIW).

Anyway, after the whole input.io and coinlenders scandal, I'm sorta thinking he shouldn't be on the default trust list.

Anyhelp?

Tradefortress isn't on the default trust list. He was removed shortly after the Inputs.io thing

I haven't changed my settings still see him in default trust theymos trust list
@Tspace Tysat also gave you one and his have weight

No other user gave him a rating
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Figured it Out

If Theymos IS your default trust then you see tradefortresses posts
IF Defaulttrust is the trust setting you use then you don't see it

Did the forum switch from Theymos to defaulttrust don't recall changing my settings
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March 01, 2014, 03:28:10 PM
Last edit: March 04, 2014, 07:55:57 PM by Maged
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I think we really just need to give it some time to see how it plays out.  Per what theymos has said part of it is based off of age of feedback, so we won't really know for a few months.  Plus if it is bad it can always be changed/removed.

It was implemented in May 2013... I think it's had time to play out already  Tongue
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March 02, 2014, 11:50:17 AM
Last edit: March 04, 2014, 07:56:06 PM by Maged
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I think we really just need to give it some time to see how it plays out.  Per what theymos has said part of it is based off of age of feedback, so we won't really know for a few months.  Plus if it is bad it can always be changed/removed.

It was implemented in May 2013... I think it's had time to play out already  Tongue

It sure is a mean system to newbies who have something to prove
Or Goats and or GMaxwells who don't really trade or escrow even though its supposed to be Marketplace Trust ^^
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