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October 31, 2017, 06:49:44 PM
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It depends, since they haven't found a valid block for about 4 days, you'll make zero those days.  When you do find a block, at the current hashrate, you should get around .00298892 BTC depending on the size of the block.

Where are you getting this number from? 4 days to make .00298? (If true that would hurt)

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October 31, 2017, 08:33:14 PM
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I took your average hashrate having an S9 at 13.5 TH/s divided by the Pool's rate (which was 60,xxx before, now it's lower) and then multiplied that by an average block size of around 13.5.  That number doesn't account for his 0.9% pool fee though.  Either way, people aren't getting anything on Kano right now which is why the pool size is shrinking rapidly.
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November 02, 2017, 11:39:47 AM
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I have mined at both pools. Slush was the first pool I ever mined on and even found a block there. I left it years ago due to the fact that the payout system every now and then would payout the wrong amounts. About 4-5 times myself and many other miners would get short changed on payouts and others got way to much. Once I was on the overpay and you never could get an answer from Slush so I left. He may have fixed that problem as it's been a longtime but I have never had trusted the payout since.

I have mined at Kanos pool and it always paid me and I found it to be a very well ran pool. The only down fall is when the pools total hash rate drops to a point you are waiting days to find a block and it crosses difficulty changes it seems you are losing out. But as any small pool it's a  psychology point of going days without getting anything that makes it hard to stay put. But if I had to chose only between these 2 pools it would be Kano's.


Well I guess I would need to rethink this as Kano's pools has gone 96 hours without hitting a block and Slush has been having a very good lucky streak

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November 03, 2017, 02:58:19 PM
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I have mined at both pools. Slush was the first pool I ever mined on and even found a block there. I left it years ago due to the fact that the payout system every now and then would payout the wrong amounts. About 4-5 times myself and many other miners would get short changed on payouts and others got way to much. Once I was on the overpay and you never could get an answer from Slush so I left. He may have fixed that problem as it's been a longtime but I have never had trusted the payout since.

I have mined at Kanos pool and it always paid me and I found it to be a very well ran pool. The only down fall is when the pools total hash rate drops to a point you are waiting days to find a block and it crosses difficulty changes it seems you are losing out. But as any small pool it's a  psychology point of going days without getting anything that makes it hard to stay put. But if I had to chose only between these 2 pools it would be Kano's.


Well I guess I would need to rethink this as Kano's pools has gone 96 hours without hitting a block and Slush has been having a very good lucky streak


Yeah I tried out Kano for a week and barely made anything, switched back to slush and my measly 8 th/s is pulling in about .01btc every 5-6 days.
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November 03, 2017, 03:00:26 PM
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That's why its called luck

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November 03, 2017, 03:06:47 PM
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That's why its called luck

Having almost 800ph helps negate the luck factor quite a bit.
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November 03, 2017, 03:20:08 PM
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That's why its called luck

Having almost 800ph helps negate the luck factor quite a bit.

And also lowers the payout you get per block.

In the long run, it all evens out of course - at the end of day, you'll make less on Slush because it has a higher fee.
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November 03, 2017, 03:44:42 PM
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That's why its called luck

Having almost 800ph helps negate the luck factor quite a bit.

And also lowers the payout you get per block.

In the long run, it all evens out of course - at the end of day, you'll make less on Slush because it has a higher fee.

If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 
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November 03, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
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If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 

I wasn't talking about luck, I was talking about rewards. In the long run, it evens out - that's how statistics work.

The only issue is that difficulty also moves, so unless you increase your hash rate with difficulty, if you don't get paid out at lower difficulty, you'll lose out as it goes up.
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November 03, 2017, 06:29:56 PM
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If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 

I wasn't talking about luck, I was talking about rewards. In the long run, it evens out - that's how statistics work.

The only issue is that difficulty also moves, so unless you increase your hash rate with difficulty, if you don't get paid out at lower difficulty, you'll lose out as it goes up.

No one asked you about luck, the entire thread, minus your musings, was about luck.
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November 03, 2017, 10:44:44 PM
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If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 

I wasn't talking about luck, I was talking about rewards. In the long run, it evens out - that's how statistics work.

The only issue is that difficulty also moves, so unless you increase your hash rate with difficulty, if you don't get paid out at lower difficulty, you'll lose out as it goes up.

No one asked you about luck, the entire thread, minus your musings, was about luck.

You get 0 rewards if your pool is too small and never finds a block.  Johnny Bravo's pool hasn't found a block in over a year.  If they did you'd get an incredible reward, but they don't, so you don't.
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November 04, 2017, 02:10:48 AM
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If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 

I wasn't talking about luck, I was talking about rewards. In the long run, it evens out - that's how statistics work.

The only issue is that difficulty also moves, so unless you increase your hash rate with difficulty, if you don't get paid out at lower difficulty, you'll lose out as it goes up.

No one asked you about luck, the entire thread, minus your musings, was about luck.

You get 0 rewards if your pool is too small and never finds a block.  Johnny Bravo's pool hasn't found a block in over a year.  If they did you'd get an incredible reward, but they don't, so you don't.


When did JohnnyBravo's pool get thrown in here?  Slush vs kano.  Please read.
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November 04, 2017, 05:28:39 AM
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If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 

I wasn't talking about luck, I was talking about rewards. In the long run, it evens out - that's how statistics work.

The only issue is that difficulty also moves, so unless you increase your hash rate with difficulty, if you don't get paid out at lower difficulty, you'll lose out as it goes up.

No one asked you about luck, the entire thread, minus your musings, was about luck.

You get 0 rewards if your pool is too small and never finds a block.  Johnny Bravo's pool hasn't found a block in over a year.  If they did you'd get an incredible reward, but they don't, so you don't.


When did JohnnyBravo's pool get thrown in here?  Slush vs kano.  Please read.

It's called using them as an example.  Try to keep up sweetheart.
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November 04, 2017, 12:51:09 PM
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If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 

I wasn't talking about luck, I was talking about rewards. In the long run, it evens out - that's how statistics work.

The only issue is that difficulty also moves, so unless you increase your hash rate with difficulty, if you don't get paid out at lower difficulty, you'll lose out as it goes up.

No one asked you about luck, the entire thread, minus your musings, was about luck.

You get 0 rewards if your pool is too small and never finds a block.  Johnny Bravo's pool hasn't found a block in over a year.  If they did you'd get an incredible reward, but they don't, so you don't.


When did JohnnyBravo's pool get thrown in here?  Slush vs kano.  Please read.

It's called using them as an example.  Try to keep up sweetheart.

What a piss poor example. You tried,but you failed, yet again.  At least you tried. 
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November 04, 2017, 02:19:54 PM
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Well, there's also the fact that our pool fees are less than half of the slush pools fees Smiley
Slush is 2% we are 0.9%

Although the pool is only about 80PH, that's good enough that most of your shares are rewarded at the current difficulty.

At the moment difficulty is dropping, so a short delay in reward is also an advantage, but that drop wont continue for very long, so a long delay in reward on a small pool will almost certainly screw you over badly.

More than that, kano is very helpful when we need his help. I have a 0.5 BTC transaction that gets stucked because of low fee for 2 weeks. And he helped me to add to block get confirmations.
Kano is a friend, very enjoy his pool.
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November 05, 2017, 12:03:44 AM
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If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 

I wasn't talking about luck, I was talking about rewards. In the long run, it evens out - that's how statistics work.

The only issue is that difficulty also moves, so unless you increase your hash rate with difficulty, if you don't get paid out at lower difficulty, you'll lose out as it goes up.

No one asked you about luck, the entire thread, minus your musings, was about luck.

You get 0 rewards if your pool is too small and never finds a block.  Johnny Bravo's pool hasn't found a block in over a year.  If they did you'd get an incredible reward, but they don't, so you don't.


When did JohnnyBravo's pool get thrown in here?  Slush vs kano.  Please read.

It's called using them as an example.  Try to keep up sweetheart.

What a piss poor example. You tried,but you failed, yet again.  At least you tried. 

I actually thought it was a good analogy to use. I hope Kano doesn’t go down that route and manages to stay viable for everyone involved

Made you look!
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November 05, 2017, 02:10:38 AM
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If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 

I wasn't talking about luck, I was talking about rewards. In the long run, it evens out - that's how statistics work.

The only issue is that difficulty also moves, so unless you increase your hash rate with difficulty, if you don't get paid out at lower difficulty, you'll lose out as it goes up.

No one asked you about luck, the entire thread, minus your musings, was about luck.

You get 0 rewards if your pool is too small and never finds a block.  Johnny Bravo's pool hasn't found a block in over a year.  If they did you'd get an incredible reward, but they don't, so you don't.


When did JohnnyBravo's pool get thrown in here?  Slush vs kano.  Please read.

It's called using them as an example.  Try to keep up sweetheart.

What a piss poor example. You tried,but you failed, yet again.  At least you tried. 

I actually thought it was a good analogy to use. I hope Kano doesn’t go down that route and manages to stay viable for everyone involved

Yeah, Kano's sycophants get upset when you make fun of their pool.  I've been monitoring the situation over there and it looks like they've had some good luck cracking blocks in the past couple of days.  Going to keep an eye on it and if I can make more in a week over than than I do on Slush, I'll switch back.
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November 05, 2017, 04:46:01 AM
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If the luck is equal on both pools, last month it was not. 

I wasn't talking about luck, I was talking about rewards. In the long run, it evens out - that's how statistics work.

The only issue is that difficulty also moves, so unless you increase your hash rate with difficulty, if you don't get paid out at lower difficulty, you'll lose out as it goes up.

No one asked you about luck, the entire thread, minus your musings, was about luck.

You get 0 rewards if your pool is too small and never finds a block.  Johnny Bravo's pool hasn't found a block in over a year.  If they did you'd get an incredible reward, but they don't, so you don't.


When did JohnnyBravo's pool get thrown in here?  Slush vs kano.  Please read.

It's called using them as an example.  Try to keep up sweetheart.

What a piss poor example. You tried,but you failed, yet again.  At least you tried. 

I actually thought it was a good analogy to use. I hope Kano doesn’t go down that route and manages to stay viable for everyone involved

Yeah, Kano's sycophants get upset when you make fun of their pool.  I've been monitoring the situation over there and it looks like they've had some good luck cracking blocks in the past couple of days.  Going to keep an eye on it and if I can make more in a week over than than I do on Slush, I'll switch back.


Stay on slush, it's better.
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November 05, 2017, 08:45:41 PM
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Not better, but more stable income per day because of the larger pool hashrate.

(Although I would like to see that all slushpool users move to kano... a win win situation due to slightly lower fee for all users..)
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November 07, 2017, 04:34:51 AM
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If you're noob like me, Slush provides the feedback necessary to sleep at nite.
The Pros use Kano for a reason which requires confidence that noobs (like me) just don't have.
I mine at Slush because everytime I've switched away I've lost my ass. 

On a related topic: I named my cat after Kano - not because Slush isn't also a good cat name.

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