How to claim BCH from an Electrum wallet without using ElectronCash

[erre]

You need to recover from seed. Don' t install electroncash in the same computer as electron, i suggest to don' t use election cash at all.

Instead, follow this tutorial:

https://blog.btc.com/how-to-recover-your-trapped-bitcoin-cash-from-other-wallets-24b929543f26

I have some help thread opened for people having problem claiming their bcc, I'm becoming an expert, if you need feel free to PM me.

If you want to tip:

Btc:16Hy2dMNeqZwa4vcS7UBX1HJmHNFAvmxM2
Bch: 1G4f9axBLvDtNmdAjgULVsz5zhq7HU6pNB

But using an ONLINE wallet like that one...putting your private keys or seed there...kind of dangerous in general I'd say, even if they say at their site that it's "secure", don't you think ?

You have a different problem than OP. As I understand, you have the private keys. Your problem is probably related to compressed/uncompressed format, or to coinomi being buggy with some phones.
Try to use bitaddress.org (use it offline for better security), insert your privkey in the "wallet details" tab and then import both compressed and uncompressed privkey in coinomi. If it let you see the tx but it don't show in balance after confirmation, try a different phone if you can.

Let me know if it worked

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[HCP]

I did as you said, checked all of the individual "Used" addresses from the Electrum wallet, including the Change used ones, in the block explorer, and voila ! Yes, I do have exactly the amount of BCHs that I was expecting.

This would indicate that your sweep into Coinomi failed... if the BCH is still sitting in the Electrum addresses, then they have not moved, so the sweeping transaction has not worked.

I also have Electron Cash desktop wallet installed in a virtual machine. Yesterday I created a wallet there using the Electron wallet's seed. No BCHs there...    Strangely the addreses that show in Electron Cash don't coincide with the unused addresses in Electrum (there is no option to see "used addresses in Electron Cash"....this is mind boggling....

If you imported your Electrum seed mnemonic into ElectronCash and got different addresses and no BCH balance... then the seed mnemonic you imported is NOT for that Electrum wallet. The two apps are pretty much identical (except for the BCH mods to ElectronCash), so any given mnemonic seed should generate the same addresses in Electrum or ElectronCash.

I'd suggest you double check in Electrum what your seed mnemonic is... also, try and import that seed mnemonic into a new Electrum wallet and see what addresses it generates.

[Flanagan]

I did as you said, checked all of the individual "Used" addresses from the Electrum wallet, including the Change used ones, in the block explorer, and voila ! Yes, I do have exactly the amount of BCHs that I was expecting.

This would indicate that your sweep into Coinomi failed... if the BCH is still sitting in the Electrum addresses, then they have not moved, so the sweeping transaction has not worked.

I also have Electron Cash desktop wallet installed in a virtual machine. Yesterday I created a wallet there using the Electron wallet's seed. No BCHs there...    Strangely the addreses that show in Electron Cash don't coincide with the unused addresses in Electrum (there is no option to see "used addresses in Electron Cash"....this is mind boggling....

If you imported your Electrum seed mnemonic into ElectronCash and got different addresses and no BCH balance... then the seed mnemonic you imported is NOT for that Electrum wallet. The two apps are pretty much identical (except for the BCH mods to ElectronCash), so any given mnemonic seed should generate the same addresses in Electrum or ElectronCash.

I'd suggest you double check in Electrum what your seed mnemonic is... also, try and import that seed mnemonic into a new Electrum wallet and see what addresses it generates.

Finally, swept each address key into Coinnomi and finally got my BCH, correct amount too !
I appreciate your help, I couldn't have done without it !

[idova]

i do not sweep transaction that bch coin, and i do not create/send that bch coin.
i only instal electrum, and then run it, then create a standard wallet with private key from blockchain. and then my bch coin gone.

If you didn't send the BCH, then they have been stolen.

if my bch have been stolen, why my btc is not stolen too , because my btc remains safe, until I move it on 30 August 2017, while bch was stolen on the date of 24 August 2017, if true stolen should be the thief took also my btc.

anyway, until now the balance bch at address "1MFPQ...3WFw" not changed (still remain of my lost bch balance) since the date of the coin is estimated to be stolen, nothing seems to be able to touch it (including me). logically, the thief will move it elsewhere or spend it, in order to be collected and use for him, rather than scattered in many addresses with small and useless values.

[HCP]

if my bch have been stolen, why my btc is not stolen too , because my btc remains safe, until I move it on 30 August 2017, while bch was stolen on the date of 24 August 2017, if true stolen should be the thief took also my btc.

Possibly because at that time, the BTC network was flooded and fees were 400+ satoshis/byte... you had a grand total of: 0.00151678 BTC spread across 17 inputs (lots of dust!)... the transaction to move it was 3094 bytes... you only used 8 sat/byte fee rate and it still cost 0.00025940 BTC in fees, which is like 1/6th of the total value!!?!

If they had attempted to send the same transaction with 400 sat/byte fee rate, it would have been a fee of 0.01237600 BTC... which is almost 10 times the value of the coins leaving the thief with nothing!! Even a fee rate of 40 sats/byte would have used up pretty much all the value in fees.

So they opted to take the BCH and used a fee rate of ~1 "bchtoshi"/byte fee rate... and got a whole $1 worth of BCH... to some people, this is a lot of money.


As to why they haven't moved/spent it yet... they're probably just waiting for BCH to increase in value before dumping.

[idova]

if my bch have been stolen, why my btc is not stolen too , because my btc remains safe, until I move it on 30 August 2017, while bch was stolen on the date of 24 August 2017, if true stolen should be the thief took also my btc.

Possibly because at that time, the BTC network was flooded and fees were 400+ satoshis/byte... you had a grand total of: 0.00151678 BTC spread across 17 inputs (lots of dust!)... the transaction to move it was 3094 bytes... you only used 8 sat/byte fee rate and it still cost 0.00025940 BTC in fees, which is like 1/6th of the total value!!?!

If they had attempted to send the same transaction with 400 sat/byte fee rate, it would have been a fee of 0.01237600 BTC... which is almost 10 times the value of the coins leaving the thief with nothing!! Even a fee rate of 40 sats/byte would have used up pretty much all the value in fees.

So they opted to take the BCH and used a fee rate of ~1 "bchtoshi"/byte fee rate... and got a whole $1 worth of BCH... to some people, this is a lot of money.


As to why they haven't moved/spent it yet... they're probably just waiting for BCH to increase in value before dumping.

ok brother hcp, Thank you for your help and explanation. so i became more understand.
you are very smart. God bless you.