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August 28, 2017, 05:19:37 PM |
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I am not investing because their numbers do not stack up.
Also, they let us believe more than what they actually are. Scammers or not, when did you folks last see a company to make £0 - $100m profit in three years?
Where do they even claim that ? They use the figure of 10m EUR (you already used two different currencies in your post and still didn't get the right one) and that's just for an example calculation. They don't claim that, that is going to be their profit.
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August 28, 2017, 05:24:12 PM |
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Well, in that case, Bankera white paper is worthless, less than the paper I printed it on.
really? you are actually PRINTING white papers? It is 2017 - you should save the environment and read it from the screen. Or at least, read it briefly and print it only when you see it is not worthless.
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August 28, 2017, 05:38:03 PM |
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Page 16. Section 7, financials. Small correction, it's actually EUR 100 million and USD in year three. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You guys are so funny defending Bankera that I had to check my calendar that it's not April's Fool day?
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August 28, 2017, 05:42:37 PM |
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That's his dad.
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August 28, 2017, 05:43:43 PM |
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Page 16. Section 7, financials. Small correction, it's actually EUR 100 million and USD in year three. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You guys are so funny defending Bankera that I had to check my calendar that it's not April's Fool day? Wether or not that is realistic is up for debate. At least you're making a sound argument. The only thing left to correct you on is that they are starting from 0 profit right now. They have an mvp already working which is where the pre-ICO is being held. So there is already an operation which those numbers are probably based on. Again, whether or not those numbers add up is up for debate.
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August 28, 2017, 06:08:08 PM |
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Call me a party pooper but these guys have no previous track record of building high revenue company, nada! It looks like Vytautas has worked as "an intern" at Bloomberg, that's all.
FOLKS, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT:
The odds achieving $100 million or more revenue within six years are 3.5 in 10,000. Bankera projections are about $300 million, making the odds worse than 1:10,000. That is less than 0,01% chance. I keep my money on the 99,99%.
I am not a gambler but would say that under 1:10,000 odds are not good. Last year, the bookies offered 1:2,500 for Kim Kardashian to become next US president.
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August 28, 2017, 06:31:59 PM |
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Once the suspicion has entered a job it is really difficult to trust completely.Doubting is really very important in such projects .If I had invested in such a project I could not sleep at night.A friend (i dont know her/his bytheway) has obviously done a good research on this issue and added evidence to the visuals.i m sorry but Ignoring all this would be absolutely stupid. There is a proverb in our country. " There will be no smoke if there is no fire " . This friend would not infiltrate such a type of information if it had not been involved in such a case, if he committed a defraud.
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August 28, 2017, 09:42:27 PM |
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Vytautas Karalevičius is a scammer who run spectrocoin and yes he looks like scumbag. This thread makes me think twice before I use any virtual card company services like spectrocoin. These guys should be hanged.
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August 29, 2017, 05:24:02 AM |
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If you look at those scam reports made back in the day, it only makes me wonder why they didn't go to police if they claim $100k+ has been stolen from them and they know the culprit?
I call the reports BS or that it was somekinda money laundering operation, which Spectrocoin stopped and reported to the police.
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August 29, 2017, 12:07:31 PM |
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The maths in the WP do not prove any profit for the token holders... This is my main concern about this ICO.
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August 30, 2017, 04:31:33 PM |
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Why have you used my alias here? I am not associated with the project, the scam accusation nor this *string operation*.
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August 30, 2017, 09:59:59 PM |
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these guys are definitely scammers.
i have used their card services for almost a year with their parent company spectrocoin.com
everything was fine until yesterday.
they stopped crediting btc deposits and still will not credit a 1 btc deposit which currently has over 200+ confirmations.
they claim that they have not received it.
so it looks, walks and quacks like a duck.....
they laid the net for over a year, then started accepting eth, then launched an ico which has zero value for token holders and then also stopped crediting btc deposits to wallets.
i hope some of you see this and bump it up if you have been scammed too so nobody else loses their coin.
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August 30, 2017, 10:11:13 PM |
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these guys are definitely scammers.
i have used their card services for almost a year with their parent company spectrocoin.com
everything was fine until yesterday.
they stopped crediting btc deposits and still will not credit a 1 btc deposit which currently has over 200+ confirmations.
they claim that they have not received it.
so it looks, walks and quacks like a duck.....
they laid the net for over a year, then started accepting eth, then launched an ico which has zero value for token holders and then also stopped crediting btc deposits to wallets.
i hope some of you see this and bump it up if you have been scammed too so nobody else loses their coin.
Shocking. One of the million ICOs promising unbelievable profits overnight is a scam that looks good but can't deliver on its promises? That undermines my faith in the entire ICO market. It's time to go buy my Useless Ethereum Token shares right now! At least they were honest about it... and hey, their profits have been unbelievable so far, especially compared to the complete lack of profits promised by its creators. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) If I were going to buy securities (which ICOs will be considered soon, even if they're not now) I'd buy real ones, even in an possibly-overvalued market.
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August 31, 2017, 02:27:38 PM |
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Now all that remains is to be careful.
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August 31, 2017, 02:59:08 PM |
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August 31, 2017, 07:18:35 PM |
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My deposit from today went fine, however now I am a bit worried about this ICO.
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August 31, 2017, 08:20:14 PM |
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Newbie-Zirkus))) from the side it looks very funny. Keep it up. The project can not do more damage))))
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September 01, 2017, 03:13:57 AM |
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More accusations in their official thread: SCAM ALERT. PLEASE DONT INVEST YOUR MONEY IF YOU DONT WANT TO LOSE YOUR MONEY. SAVE YOUR MONEY FROM SCAMMER BANKERA
SCAM!!! No bounty distribution for Twitter!!!
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