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August 27, 2017, 02:02:13 PM
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Warning to ALL PLAYERS @ www.stake.com

A newly opened Casino with games like Plinko, Blackjack, Mines, Charbet, and much more.

I've have not made my deposit(playing with faucet) and still checking the casino out. A few days ago i noticed that my balance goes down rather quickly especially when i'm on Plinko and Charbet and i thought it was me who was overbetting so i slowed down my farm and realized that a few of the winnings for Charbet wasn't credited and there was a problem with the autobet.

He's a screenshot of the game and also the message with support. It was on autobet/cashout at 3.30. Have waited over a day and still haven't gotten back to me.

https://prnt.sc/gdl2t9 - Proof of the game that the auto cash out isn't working.
https://prnt.sc/gdl7ez https://prnt.sc/gdl7sv https://prnt.sc/gdl7tz https://prnt.sc/gdl7zo  - Support messages and still no replies from them.


Now lets move to Plinko, some of the games are not paying or is paying out wrongly, definitely not paying me more but lesser.
I had about 500+ before i drop multiple balls(5 in a row) and at the end of it this is the result, if you calculate... it doesn't tally at all.
PROOF  = https://prnt.sc/gdl76w
Balance after dropping 7 times is 22. So 1-2 games didn't pay out in that session. (Imagine players who have deposit and drop hundreds/thousands of balls)

Even if you assume i have the minimum to play all that 7 games it would be 334 - 77 - 77 - 52 = 128 + 51 = 179 - 52 - 77 - 34 = 16 not 22 but that is not the case. So my warning to all players please don't play these 2 games until it is fixed and if you have deposited and lost on these 2 games i hope they can give a refund or something.

My chat with Support proof : https://prnt.sc/gdla0e http://prntscr.com/gdla94 http://prntscr.com/gdlaa6 https://prnt.sc/gdlaal https://prnt.sc/gdlca1 https://prnt.sc/gdlcab https://prnt.sc/gdlcan


PS : a screenshot of a player that told support regarding a problem and edward(im guessing the owner or one of them) doesn't wanna take it down.
http://imgur.com/a/bsJpQ
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August 27, 2017, 02:25:47 PM
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https://prnt.sc/gdl2t9 - Proof of the game that the auto cash out isn't working.
Could be real. Could also be fake. Here's one I faked:



All I did was edit the cashout number after the game had ended.
PROOF  = https://prnt.sc/gdl76w
Balance after dropping 7 times is 22. So 1-2 games didn't pay out in that session. (Imagine players who have deposit and drop hundreds/thousands of balls)

Even if you assume i have the minimum to play all that 7 games it would be 334 - 77 - 77 - 52 = 128 + 51 = 179 - 52 - 77 - 34 = 16 not 22 but that is not the case. So my warning to all players please don't play these 2 games until it is fixed and if you have deposited and lost on these 2 games i hope they can give a refund or something.
Let's talk about math. Stake automatically rounds to the nearest unit however the payouts are not rounded. They are exact. Meaning if you lost 76.8 satoshi it would show as a loss of 77.

Let's do the calculations, now.

Starting value: 334.

Bet Results
  • (3) 128 sat * 0.40x
  • (2) 128 sat * 0.60x
  • (1) 128 sat * 1.40x
  • (1) 56 sat * 0.40x

Thus the remaining value after these bets would be...

334 - 230.4 - 102.4 + 51.2 - 33.6 = 18.8
Although this does not match the exact value it should be noted that the math on the payout follows this manner.

Bear in mind, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just adding some degree of skepticism here.

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August 27, 2017, 02:27:57 PM
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yeah you can edit the screenshot but it wouldn't match up when you talk to the support and they checked right?
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August 27, 2017, 02:43:54 PM
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yeah you can edit the screenshot but it wouldn't match up when you talk to the support and they checked right?
In the conversation log, all they have done is forward it up the ladder. I am unsure if they record the automatic cashout value or not so it is not my position to state whether they are able to verify that you sent a bona fide screenshot.
Usually, support will just shoot the technical issues to those that have the assets to do so and thus any inclination of them agreeing with you should not be considered valid.

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August 27, 2017, 03:11:03 PM
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https://prnt.sc/gdl2t9 - Proof of the game that the auto cash out isn't working.
Could be real. Could also be fake. Here's one I faked:

http://i.imgur.com/yjsATm6.png

All I did was edit the cashout number after the game had ended.
PROOF  = https://prnt.sc/gdl76w
Balance after dropping 7 times is 22. So 1-2 games didn't pay out in that session. (Imagine players who have deposit and drop hundreds/thousands of balls)

Even if you assume i have the minimum to play all that 7 games it would be 334 - 77 - 77 - 52 = 128 + 51 = 179 - 52 - 77 - 34 = 16 not 22 but that is not the case. So my warning to all players please don't play these 2 games until it is fixed and if you have deposited and lost on these 2 games i hope they can give a refund or something.
Let's talk about math. Stake automatically rounds to the nearest unit however the payouts are not rounded. They are exact. Meaning if you lost 76.8 satoshi it would show as a loss of 77.

Let's do the calculations, now.

Starting value: 334.

Bet Results
  • (3) 128 sat * 0.40x
  • (2) 128 sat * 0.60x
  • (1) 128 sat * 1.40x
  • (1) 56 sat * 0.40x

Thus the remaining value after these bets would be...

334 - 230.4 - 102.4 + 51.2 - 33.6 = 18.8
Although this does not match the exact value it should be noted that the math on the payout follows this manner.

Bear in mind, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just adding some degree of skepticism here.

Well thats how they calculate and i have game history of all the payouts. go to www.stake.com and paste this in chat to check the history and the timings.

Plinko:2,758,783
Plinko:2,758,784
Plinko:2,758,789
Plinko:2,758,792
Plinko:2,758,793
Plinko:2,758,795
Plinko:2,758,834


and for charbet this is the history to check at stake.com

Chartbet:608,328

If you want a video i can do that also but please i am here to warn people about the site and i don't think there's a need for that with the history number you can check the game history so please do investigate and authenticate what i just posted. Smiley thank you.
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August 27, 2017, 03:53:14 PM
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and for charbet this is the history to check at stake.com

Chartbet:608,328
Chartbet history doesn't show the cashout number. I've already checked before so there's no way to prove that the number wasn't tainted after the loss.

If you want a video i can do that
Do it. Both of your pieces of evidence lack real definitive proof of foul play.

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August 27, 2017, 04:18:35 PM
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ok so how do i do it? i can proof that it happened and theres no way i played any other games at the point of it happening.
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ok so how do i do it? i can proof that it happened and theres no way i played any other games at the point of it happening.
If you can prove it then prove it. Jesus, why does everyone say that they can prove something then don't do it until asked? Bring up the proof first so that you don't waste any time. After all, your intention IS to legitimately warn other players, right?

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August 28, 2017, 10:51:35 AM
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Warning to ALL PLAYERS @ www.stake.com

A newly opened Casino with games like Plinko, Blackjack, Mines, Charbet, and much more.

I've have not made my deposit(playing with faucet) and still checking the casino out. A few days ago i noticed that my balance goes down rather quickly especially when i'm on Plinko and Charbet and i thought it was me who was overbetting so i slowed down my farm and realized that a few of the winnings for Charbet wasn't credited and there was a problem with the autobet.

He's a screenshot of the game and also the message with support. It was on autobet/cashout at 3.30. Have waited over a day and still haven't gotten back to me.

https://prnt.sc/gdl2t9 - Proof of the game that the auto cash out isn't working.
https://prnt.sc/gdl7ez https://prnt.sc/gdl7sv https://prnt.sc/gdl7tz https://prnt.sc/gdl7zo  - Support messages and still no replies from them.


Now lets move to Plinko, some of the games are not paying or is paying out wrongly, definitely not paying me more but lesser.
I had about 500+ before i drop multiple balls(5 in a row) and at the end of it this is the result, if you calculate... it doesn't tally at all.
PROOF  = https://prnt.sc/gdl76w
Balance after dropping 7 times is 22. So 1-2 games didn't pay out in that session. (Imagine players who have deposit and drop hundreds/thousands of balls)

Even if you assume i have the minimum to play all that 7 games it would be 334 - 77 - 77 - 52 = 128 + 51 = 179 - 52 - 77 - 34 = 16 not 22 but that is not the case. So my warning to all players please don't play these 2 games until it is fixed and if you have deposited and lost on these 2 games i hope they can give a refund or something.

My chat with Support proof : https://prnt.sc/gdla0e http://prntscr.com/gdla94 http://prntscr.com/gdlaa6 https://prnt.sc/gdlaal https://prnt.sc/gdlca1 https://prnt.sc/gdlcab https://prnt.sc/gdlcan


PS : a screenshot of a player that told support regarding a problem and edward(im guessing the owner or one of them) doesn't wanna take it down.
http://imgur.com/a/bsJpQ

It could be possible that there is a bug in the system. Stake.com is still new right now, and there is no guarantee that there won't be any even if it was launched by reputable ande xperienced casino owners.

As actmyname said though, screenshots are helpful but aren't conclusive proof.

If your accusation was correct then i would expect Stunna and Edward to refund everything that you have lost through the bugs fully, because you were playing with such low amounts anyways. So there is no concern about that.
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