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September 01, 2017, 05:22:15 PM
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because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.

Who are these "people" that keep being referenced as having harassed this guy into losing his marbles?

I take it that he is talking about the people who he has outright scammed, such as bitenvy: reference link.

Yes that and a couple people here and there.  But what do you expect people to do when they buy "money" and you guve them a piece of paper with garble on it that isnt the right priv key info.  He cant claim to be the victim under those circumstances thats just common sense

Agreed.  It makes you wonder what other precautions aren't being taken.  bitenvy made a good point earlier...

There is a reason why people want the manufacturer of the coins to have a list of public addresses when they sell them.  The manufacturer should be organized enough to 1) Handle private keys securely.  2)  Manage those private keys in the utmost care (and destroying them after applying to coin).   3)  Maintain a list of public addresses (not private keys)!  Did gravitate do any of these?  

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September 01, 2017, 08:44:24 PM
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Sad to hear such information. I have almost whole series Microsoul, I can not imagine to peel off my coins. I heard that the first coins (2013 or 2014 0.01) are zombie, hope that only those.

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September 01, 2017, 09:18:46 PM
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I still have many of these coins and they are too beautiful to peel. Im going to keep them. I think the way you have gone about this to be quite foolish.
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September 01, 2017, 10:07:16 PM
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I still have many of these coins and they are too beautiful to peel. Im going to keep them. I think the way you have gone about this to be quite foolish.

Knowing that bitcoin on them is unrecoverable makes them worth significantly less. Sadly, I doubt even the interesting history these coins have developed because of Mathews handling etc etc will ever make it worth NOT peeling then. With coins that are KNOWN to be at issue it seems to be the smarter move.
Where coin series have been shown to be good, and there were some I believe? Then yes, hold on to them unpeeled... but of course its your call.

I've chosen to redeem all that I have but maintain them in good condition once peeled.

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So if you want to preserve and protect any digital bitcoins that were supposed to be loaded...... Peel now or forever loose your bits....  He will only honor this til DEC 1, 2017.. at which time he will then vanish and move on to another scammy venture.....

This is the way I am taking this....  It is both a threat and a promise.......

Now My personal opinion....  everyone should Peel and get back any coins you can...  And Bitcoin bankrupt this mother fucking scum bag if he is going to man up and honor his mess for only two months... 

At least he is doing that much.....to correct the problem.. I have to give him that at least.... But only that...

At this point, what evidence do we have that he will actually honor his mistakes?  At least if one keeps the coin in tact, it has some collector value and a public key that shows a balance. If I peel, I have a worthless coin and a promise from a scammer/imbecile that he will make things right.

Pinging Vizique. Any updates on the coins you recently peeled? 

I could slap a public key that shows a random BTC balance on any object, doesn't make it worth more.

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Are the 2016 Microsoul coins (0.05 silver and gilt) affected by priv key error too ?
Yes.  How many times do I have to repeat this??  Read my scam accusation posted above.    Huh


So if you want to preserve and protect any digital bitcoins that were supposed to be loaded...... Peel now or forever loose your bits....  He will only honor this til DEC 1, 2017.. at which time he will then vanish and move on to another scammy venture.....

This is the way I am taking this....  It is both a threat and a promise.......

Now My personal opinion....  everyone should Peel and get back any coins you can...  And Bitcoin bankrupt this mother fucking scum bag if he is going to man up and honor his mess for only two months... 

At least he is doing that much.....to correct the problem.. I have to give him that at least.... But only that...

At this point, what evidence do we have that he will actually honor his mistakes?  At least if one keeps the coin in tact, it has some collector value and a public key that shows a balance. If I peel, I have a worthless coin and a promise from a scammer/imbecile that he will make things right.
I agree with BG4.  Peel and redeem.

He will not honor.  He has not honored mine.  And, never will.   Angry


because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.
Who are these "people" that keep being referenced as having harassed this guy into losing his marbles?
I take it that he is talking about the people who he has outright scammed, such as bitenvy: reference link.

Yes that and a couple people here and there.  But what do you expect people to do when they buy "money" and you guve them a piece of paper with garble on it that isnt the right priv key info.  He cant claim to be the victim under those circumstances thats just common sense

Because of a couple of people?   Shocked  Basically, me.  Seriously, are you blaming me for this?!?  He is to blame.  Only him.  I was only a customer and I didn't get what I purchased.  He is a scammer.   Don't put blame on me for his own mistakes.   Undecided 




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Are the 2016 Microsoul coins (0.05 silver and gilt) affected by priv key error too ?
Yes.  How many times do I have to repeat this??  Read my scam accusation posted above.    Huh


So if you want to preserve and protect any digital bitcoins that were supposed to be loaded...... Peel now or forever loose your bits....  He will only honor this til DEC 1, 2017.. at which time he will then vanish and move on to another scammy venture.....

This is the way I am taking this....  It is both a threat and a promise.......

Now My personal opinion....  everyone should Peel and get back any coins you can...  And Bitcoin bankrupt this mother fucking scum bag if he is going to man up and honor his mess for only two months... 

At least he is doing that much.....to correct the problem.. I have to give him that at least.... But only that...

At this point, what evidence do we have that he will actually honor his mistakes?  At least if one keeps the coin in tact, it has some collector value and a public key that shows a balance. If I peel, I have a worthless coin and a promise from a scammer/imbecile that he will make things right.
I agree with BG4.  Peel and redeem.

He will not honor.  He has not honored mine.  And, never will.   Angry


because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.
Who are these "people" that keep being referenced as having harassed this guy into losing his marbles?
I take it that he is talking about the people who he has outright scammed, such as bitenvy: reference link.

Yes that and a couple people here and there.  But what do you expect people to do when they buy "money" and you guve them a piece of paper with garble on it that isnt the right priv key info.  He cant claim to be the victim under those circumstances thats just common sense

Because of a couple of people?   Shocked  Basically, me.  Seriously, are you blaming me for this?!?  He is to blame.  Only him.  I was only a customer and I didn't get what I purchased.  He is a scammer.   Don't put blame on me for his own mistakes.   Undecided 






Dont take my words out of context i am on your side.  All i was saying is that he is doing this cause a couple people got on his case (and rightfully so) id be hellbent if my loaded coins were found to have no coin on them.  If you read all my comments i am dissapointed he is doing this entire sharade over being hassled by people who have 100% right to hassle him.  Its not like people randomly are harassing him.  Either way i hope you get your dough back even if its just the loaded amount.














 

 

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Are the 2016 Microsoul coins (0.05 silver and gilt) affected by priv key error too ?
Yes.  How many times do I have to repeat this??  Read my scam accusation posted above.    Huh


Sry, I read your scam accusation. I've the same coins, graded, thinking about redeem them hurts me a little...

I would understand if a coin maker does some minor mistakes like funding a coin with delay etc, if he sells hundreds or thousands coins, but there is just too much problems with Microsouls coins, and huge problems like priv key errors, the way gravitate handles them is not professional, this is innaceptable.

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An update?

I'd like to take you up on your offer and get all of these coins redeemed now.

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Which coin was the CI/Microsoul collaboration?

Either the CI halving or unchained?

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September 04, 2017, 03:57:22 PM
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Which coin was the CI/Microsoul collaboration?

Either the CI halving or unchained?

It was the Philosopher's coin.
There were a total of 20 coins minted.... 10 of them were assembled by CI, 10 of them were assembled by MS.
As far as I know, there was only 1 of the coins funded and that was the one MS that Bitenvy had.

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Oh bummer... It was tough to do but I just peeled three of my 2014 0.01 coins.  All three have zero BTC.  Two of the private keys were for different bitcoin addresses and one was completely invalid.  Naturally the addresses with the first bits still have 0.01 BTC on them.   

I did peel one of my 2013 0.01 coins.  The private key did match the public address.  I'm going to keep the rest of my 2013s hoping they are funded (but not banking on it).

I will assume all my 2014s are worthless.  We'll see if Gravitate honors the 0.10 he owes me....I'll ignore the BCH.  I'll peel them all or send them back to him too...either way is fine with me.  Not holding my breath though.  Thankfully I only have ten of the 2013s and 2014s.
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I peeled 3 of the Lucky coins....
Each private key was able to generate at least 5 different addresses

I also peeled 2x 2013 coins.... private keys did not match hologram addresses nor did the alternate addresses contain any BTC balance.....

Well done gravitate.... you fucked us all pretty good.....  bravo

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I really hope he can come back and address the users who I've assumed PM'ed him since he started this thread.

Very sad to hear dumbchump and MJ.   Cry


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September 05, 2017, 03:56:05 PM
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At what point do mistakes turn into a scam?
Private keys not matching isn't something to be taken lightly...

Keeping in mind that there aren't any back-ups, so those funds are non-retrievable. (Or so gravitate can claim.)




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this is the ultimate long con.. create coins with little value at the time, fuck up a few times then try to wash hands...

I wouldnt be surprised if all the coins get swept within a few months.

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OK, so it looks like we've been screwed.

So Mathew, going to come here and pay at the address supplied? Or do I come to you?

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this is the ultimate long con.. create coins with little value at the time, fuck up a few times then try to wash hands...

I wouldnt be surprised if all the coins get swept within a few months.


So it could be possible,. That the public addresses were intentionally not the same as the private keys in hopes to not have anyone peel the coins. So when people fine out, play stupid and just repay the people .....   Hence ... The Long Con..
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So it could be possible,. That the public addresses were intentionally not the same as the private keys in hopes to not have anyone peel the coins. So when people fine out, play stupid and just repay the people .....   Hence ... The Long Con..

Yes, and with the small amounts (0.01 - 0.05) who would want to peel them anyway?

And those who do find out would definitely contact Gravitate first.
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September 05, 2017, 08:31:06 PM
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I have had all the Microsoul coins I have graded which is adding to the investment made over face value

So am I to crack anacs slabs, peel coins and then what...

If they are empty, I have ruined a coin for nothing, and haven't seen anyone who has got an empty coin getting their funds

If they aren't empty I have needlessly ruined a coin (if they were going to be swept wouldn't they have already?)

This is such a mess


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