MESSAGE FROM GRAVITATE CASH OUT COINS NOW

[klaaas]

nobody will buy them -_-

There is a market for sweeped coins. Maybe minerjones and digicoinuser can "Pod-ify" these.

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[vizique]

At this point, what evidence do we have that he will actually honor his mistakes?  At least if one keeps the coin in tact, it has some collector value and a public key that shows a balance. If I peel, I have a worthless coin and a promise from a scammer/imbecile that he will make things right.

Pinging Vizique. Any updates on the coins you recently peeled? 

Nothing yet.

Viz

[digicoinuser]

Are the 2016 Microsoul coins (0.05 silver and gilt) affected by priv key error too ?

I believe so, when I asked the below question he stated "100% all" which I took to mean all Microsoul and collaboration coins made under that brand (Cryptoimperator/Microsoul Philopsoher coin for example).

Are all coins created under the Microsoul brand affected or only certain series?

100% all. None to spare. Before december like I said I will sort out. Then we are 100% finished. If the coin was cashed out before today 31st or over 5 hours of you posting a complaint your coin is gone . Quite simple really. If its gone then I will allow the police to come raid my house and find my stuck together collectors magasine.

[wheelz1200]

The decision gravitate is forcing me to take is not one I enjoy taking. I'll either lose 0.23BTC (currently around $1100) if he goes through with his threat or I'll ruin six (currently) pristine coins. As a collector, it's a very hard decision to make. At least with Coinographic it was taken for me (and only 1LTC, which was nothing back then).

Unfortunate.  There are people who have been loyal customers and because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.  As btc rises those "smaller" coins arent so small anymore and it does make the decision tough....this whole thing is wonky.  Anyone hear from grav privately since his last post on here?

[bitenvy]

Are the 2016 Microsoul coins (0.05 silver and gilt) affected by priv key error too ?

I believe so, when I asked the below question he stated "100% all" which I took to mean all Microsoul and collaboration coins made under that brand (Cryptoimperator/Microsoul Philopsoher coin for example).

Are all coins created under the Microsoul brand affected or only certain series?

100% all. None to spare. Before december like I said I will sort out. Then we are 100% finished. If the coin was cashed out before today 31st or over 5 hours of you posting a complaint your coin is gone . Quite simple really. If its gone then I will allow the police to come raid my house and find my stuck together collectors magasine.

This affects all of his coins!

Please see my scam accusation (part 2) on his 2016 Microsoul 0.05BTC coins.

[Fortify]

Someone should make a google spreadsheet listing anybody who has a Microsoul coin, that they either want to redeem or get the original fiat sales value for it. Gravitate must be under immense pressure right now, whatever the rights or wrongs, and knowing who is owed what would be a fair start. You could also link to a photo in each with a hologram view and timestamped+username on a piece of paper.

[bitenvy]

Someone should make a google spreadsheet listing anybody who has a Microsoul coin, that they either want to redeem or get the original fiat sales value for it. Gravitate must be under immense pressure right now, whatever the rights or wrongs, and knowing who is owed what would be a fair start. You could also link to a photo in each with a hologram view and timestamped+username on a piece of paper.

This is a nightmare he created.  I would say, good luck making this list because it's a real life russian roulette!  That's ironic!

There is a reason why people want the manufacturer of the coins to have a list of public addresses when they sell them.  The manufacturer should be organized enough to 1) Handle private keys securely.  2)  Manage those private keys in the utmost care (and destroying them after applying to coin).   3)  Maintain a list of public addresses (not private keys)!  Did gravitate do any of these? 

[OgNasty]

because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.

Who are these "people" that keep being referenced as having harassed this guy into losing his marbles?

[Lauda]

because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.

Who are these "people" that keep being referenced as having harassed this guy into losing his marbles?

I take it that he is talking about the people who he has outright scammed, such as bitenvy: reference link.

[DebitMe]

I must say that this is disappointing to run a business like this.  Can we at least get a full reaching guide of all the coins that we should look through our collections for that are affected by this?

[minifrij]

I must say that this is disappointing to run a business like this.  Can we at least get a full reaching guide of all the coins that we should look through our collections for that are affected by this?

Essentially anything by Microsoul should be considered to be unloaded/faulty unless found to be otherwise (by peeling, don't assume from other coins in the same series). Depending on who did the key generation, the same should be assumed for the CI/Microsoul collab coin.

[wheelz1200]

because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.

Who are these "people" that keep being referenced as having harassed this guy into losing his marbles?

I take it that he is talking about the people who he has outright scammed, such as bitenvy: reference link.

Yes that and a couple people here and there.  But what do you expect people to do when they buy "money" and you guve them a piece of paper with garble on it that isnt the right priv key info.  He cant claim to be the victim under those circumstances thats just common sense

[OgNasty]

because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.

Who are these "people" that keep being referenced as having harassed this guy into losing his marbles?

I take it that he is talking about the people who he has outright scammed, such as bitenvy: reference link.

Yes that and a couple people here and there.  But what do you expect people to do when they buy "money" and you guve them a piece of paper with garble on it that isnt the right priv key info.  He cant claim to be the victim under those circumstances thats just common sense

Agreed.  It makes you wonder what other precautions aren't being taken.  bitenvy made a good point earlier...

There is a reason why people want the manufacturer of the coins to have a list of public addresses when they sell them.  The manufacturer should be organized enough to 1) Handle private keys securely.  2)  Manage those private keys in the utmost care (and destroying them after applying to coin).   3)  Maintain a list of public addresses (not private keys)!  Did gravitate do any of these?  

The writing is usually on the wall.  

[Poloherb]

Sad to hear such information. I have almost whole series Microsoul, I can not imagine to peel off my coins. I heard that the first coins (2013 or 2014 0.01) are zombie, hope that only those.

[moonrock]

I still have many of these coins and they are too beautiful to peel. Im going to keep them. I think the way you have gone about this to be quite foolish.

[vizique]

I still have many of these coins and they are too beautiful to peel. Im going to keep them. I think the way you have gone about this to be quite foolish.

Knowing that bitcoin on them is unrecoverable makes them worth significantly less. Sadly, I doubt even the interesting history these coins have developed because of Mathews handling etc etc will ever make it worth NOT peeling then. With coins that are KNOWN to be at issue it seems to be the smarter move.
Where coin series have been shown to be good, and there were some I believe? Then yes, hold on to them unpeeled... but of course its your call.

I've chosen to redeem all that I have but maintain them in good condition once peeled.

Viz

[TheButterZone]

So if you want to preserve and protect any digital bitcoins that were supposed to be loaded...... Peel now or forever loose your bits....  He will only honor this til DEC 1, 2017.. at which time he will then vanish and move on to another scammy venture.....

This is the way I am taking this....  It is both a threat and a promise.......

Now My personal opinion....  everyone should Peel and get back any coins you can...  And Bitcoin bankrupt this mother fucking scum bag if he is going to man up and honor his mess for only two months... 

At least he is doing that much.....to correct the problem.. I have to give him that at least.... But only that...

At this point, what evidence do we have that he will actually honor his mistakes?  At least if one keeps the coin in tact, it has some collector value and a public key that shows a balance. If I peel, I have a worthless coin and a promise from a scammer/imbecile that he will make things right.

Pinging Vizique. Any updates on the coins you recently peeled? 

I could slap a public key that shows a random BTC balance on any object, doesn't make it worth more.

[bitenvy]

Are the 2016 Microsoul coins (0.05 silver and gilt) affected by priv key error too ?

Yes.  How many times do I have to repeat this??  Read my scam accusation posted above.   

So if you want to preserve and protect any digital bitcoins that were supposed to be loaded...... Peel now or forever loose your bits....  He will only honor this til DEC 1, 2017.. at which time he will then vanish and move on to another scammy venture.....

This is the way I am taking this....  It is both a threat and a promise.......

Now My personal opinion....  everyone should Peel and get back any coins you can...  And Bitcoin bankrupt this mother fucking scum bag if he is going to man up and honor his mess for only two months... 

At least he is doing that much.....to correct the problem.. I have to give him that at least.... But only that...

At this point, what evidence do we have that he will actually honor his mistakes?  At least if one keeps the coin in tact, it has some collector value and a public key that shows a balance. If I peel, I have a worthless coin and a promise from a scammer/imbecile that he will make things right.

I agree with BG4.  Peel and redeem.

He will not honor.  He has not honored mine.  And, never will.   

because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.

Who are these "people" that keep being referenced as having harassed this guy into losing his marbles?

I take it that he is talking about the people who he has outright scammed, such as bitenvy: reference link.

Yes that and a couple people here and there.  But what do you expect people to do when they buy "money" and you guve them a piece of paper with garble on it that isnt the right priv key info.  He cant claim to be the victim under those circumstances thats just common sense

Because of a couple of people?     Basically, me.  Seriously, are you blaming me for this?!?  He is to blame.  Only him.  I was only a customer and I didn't get what I purchased.  He is a scammer.   Don't put blame on me for his own mistakes.    

[wheelz1200]

Are the 2016 Microsoul coins (0.05 silver and gilt) affected by priv key error too ?

Yes.  How many times do I have to repeat this??  Read my scam accusation posted above.   

So if you want to preserve and protect any digital bitcoins that were supposed to be loaded...... Peel now or forever loose your bits....  He will only honor this til DEC 1, 2017.. at which time he will then vanish and move on to another scammy venture.....

This is the way I am taking this....  It is both a threat and a promise.......

Now My personal opinion....  everyone should Peel and get back any coins you can...  And Bitcoin bankrupt this mother fucking scum bag if he is going to man up and honor his mess for only two months... 

At least he is doing that much.....to correct the problem.. I have to give him that at least.... But only that...

At this point, what evidence do we have that he will actually honor his mistakes?  At least if one keeps the coin in tact, it has some collector value and a public key that shows a balance. If I peel, I have a worthless coin and a promise from a scammer/imbecile that he will make things right.

I agree with BG4.  Peel and redeem.

He will not honor.  He has not honored mine.  And, never will.   

because of a couple people he is deciding to screw everyone over.

Who are these "people" that keep being referenced as having harassed this guy into losing his marbles?

I take it that he is talking about the people who he has outright scammed, such as bitenvy: reference link.

Yes that and a couple people here and there.  But what do you expect people to do when they buy "money" and you guve them a piece of paper with garble on it that isnt the right priv key info.  He cant claim to be the victim under those circumstances thats just common sense

Because of a couple of people?     Basically, me.  Seriously, are you blaming me for this?!?  He is to blame.  Only him.  I was only a customer and I didn't get what I purchased.  He is a scammer.   Don't put blame on me for his own mistakes.    

Dont take my words out of context i am on your side.  All i was saying is that he is doing this cause a couple people got on his case (and rightfully so) id be hellbent if my loaded coins were found to have no coin on them.  If you read all my comments i am dissapointed he is doing this entire sharade over being hassled by people who have 100% right to hassle him.  Its not like people randomly are harassing him.  Either way i hope you get your dough back even if its just the loaded amount.

[Xprim777]

Are the 2016 Microsoul coins (0.05 silver and gilt) affected by priv key error too ?

Yes.  How many times do I have to repeat this??  Read my scam accusation posted above.   

Sry, I read your scam accusation. I've the same coins, graded, thinking about redeem them hurts me a little...

I would understand if a coin maker does some minor mistakes like funding a coin with delay etc, if he sells hundreds or thousands coins, but there is just too much problems with Microsouls coins, and huge problems like priv key errors, the way gravitate handles them is not professional, this is innaceptable.