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October 17, 2017, 03:45:17 PM
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Oh wow. Was about to join this bounty, but this has put me right off from both joining the bounty and participating in the ICO.

Also from what I can see the bounty spreadsheet is not maintained very well. Very disappointing indeed.
Dissapointing indeed. And the team seems to keep quiet to all questions and remarks. Looks like presently they're not steering towards the right direction.

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October 17, 2017, 03:59:30 PM
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week 5 (11.10-18.10)

tweet:
1.https://twitter.com/CryptoInside/status/920317587766038528
2.https://twitter.com/CryptoInside/status/920318267608231936
re-tweet:
1.https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/911314859899346944
2.https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/917819801611001856
3.https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/912131928492568577
4.https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/911369312396562433
5.https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/909240815150682112
post:
1.https://www.facebook.com/igor.alikin2/posts/1668761383194551
2.https://www.facebook.com/igor.alikin2/posts/1668762336527789
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1.https://www.facebook.com/igor.alikin2/posts/1664313880305968
2.https://www.facebook.com/igor.alikin2/posts/1661722237231799
3.https://www.facebook.com/igor.alikin2/posts/1661721593898530
4.https://www.facebook.com/igor.alikin2/posts/1664312476972775
5.https://www.facebook.com/igor.alikin2/posts/1666785000058856

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October 17, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
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3rd week report

Here are my tweets and retweets for Minerva twitter campaign

Minerva Bounty
Twitter Spreadsheet #1022


Retweets and tweets
https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/914432956567113728
https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/913247423052607489
https://twitter.com/JellyComons/status/915381805141946368
https://twitter.com/JellyComons/status/915381868152926208
https://twitter.com/JellyComons/status/915381704054988800

Week (05.10 - 12.10)
4rth week report

Here are my tweets and retweets for Minerva twitter campaign

Minerva Bounty
Twitter Spreadsheet #1022


Retweets and tweets
https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/916083525912317956
https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/915407307030351872
https://twitter.com/JellyComons/status/917132793012019202
https://twitter.com/JellyComons/status/917132453248208897
https://twitter.com/JellyComons/status/917132723797544960

Week (12.10 - 19.10)
5rth week report

Here are my tweets and retweets for Minerva twitter campaign

Minerva Bounty
Twitter Spreadsheet #1022


Retweets and tweets
https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/919745673146392578
https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/917819801611001856
https://twitter.com/JellyComons/status/920297044987797504
https://twitter.com/JellyComons/status/920297121433161733
https://twitter.com/JellyComons/status/920297195596853248

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October 17, 2017, 04:58:08 PM
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it looks a nice project of future, i will join all the campaigns
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October 17, 2017, 05:46:06 PM
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it looks a nice project of future, i will join all the campaigns
For 2.5% or 1%?

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Interesting didn't notice the % shift, very dissappointed. Hopefullt they will honour 2.5% to those of us who entered that agreement?Huh

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October 17, 2017, 06:19:40 PM
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The thing is, this is an area that is not regulated, but you can bet in the real world such a bait and switch would bring legal liability. I have fought on other threads to make sure bounty hunters are treated fairly, and now and then I wonder if I may be perceived as stirring the pot. Bounty hunters put in work and should not be stiffed.


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October 17, 2017, 07:16:00 PM
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The thing is, this is an area that is not regulated, but you can bet in the real world such a bait and switch would bring legal liability. I have fought on other threads to make sure bounty hunters are treated fairly, and now and then I wonder if I may be perceived as stirring the pot. Bounty hunters put in work and should not be stiffed.
Thank you for that.

I can imagine that many people are affraid of getting disqualified when protesting too loudly. Or perhaps they fear that their earned coins will become worthless when there's a lot of commotion. I recently found myself in the middle of a lot of emotion when Authorship (ATS) changed their bounty rules. It eventually ruined their project. I'm not going to beat the drums here too loud as I invested with two translatlions and moderations. But I feel Minerva here is acting unethically and unfair.

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October 17, 2017, 07:20:26 PM
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The thing is, this is an area that is not regulated, but you can bet in the real world such a bait and switch would bring legal liability. I have fought on other threads to make sure bounty hunters are treated fairly, and now and then I wonder if I may be perceived as stirring the pot. Bounty hunters put in work and should not be stiffed.
Thank you for that.

I can imagine that many people are affraid of getting disqualified when making a lot of fuss. Or perhaps they fear that their earned coins will become worthless when there's a lot of commotion. I recently found myself in the middle of a lot of emotion when Authorship (ATS) changed their bounty rules. It eventually ruined their project. I'm not going to beat the drums here too loud as I invested with two translatlions and moderations. But I feel Minerva here is acting unethically and unfair.

Yeah, on another thread the bulk of participants were disqualified at the end of the campaign for not signing to Telegram, even though they put in weeks of work. Also, there was a misunderstanding regarding the rules, and bounty hunters may not be following individual threads too much while working multiple campaigns. Sometimes there could be a genuine misunderstanding, but there is risk of pissing off the bounty manager who controls your stakes.

There should be a bounty hunter group or thread to bring our interests together.


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October 17, 2017, 07:25:42 PM
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неделю (12.10-18.10)

Твиттер ссылке : https://twitter.com/Margoslen
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ретвит :
12/10- https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/917819801611001856
15/10- https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/915407307030351872
16/10- https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/919745673146392578
17/10- https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/920447988484407296
18/10- https://twitter.com/minervatoken/status/920383060008488960

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October 17, 2017, 08:09:29 PM
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The thing is, this is an area that is not regulated, but you can bet in the real world such a bait and switch would bring legal liability. I have fought on other threads to make sure bounty hunters are treated fairly, and now and then I wonder if I may be perceived as stirring the pot. Bounty hunters put in work and should not be stiffed.

Exactly, this is why it's good to bring some regulation to this market, to avoid such unethical behavior.

I if had not spotted it, people would have discovered it at the end. And here i thought the team was serious...


It's very disappointing the bounty went from 2,5% to 1%, it's not really honest and ethical
Sharp noticing! And I agree with you. it means that the pay for work delivered under a 2.5% agreement (for instance a translation) has one-sidedly been more than halved. That's dishonest.

Could someone  from Minerva comment on this?


An ethical and honest behavior now would be to give to all Participants who were here before the change What they would have gotten with thé 2,5% or just come back to 2,5% to everyone.

Or, they can do like some crooks and just be in " who cares about stupid bounty hunters, let them talk " mode but that would be very disappointing for the futur of the project...

Below is a screenshot from the Internet Archive to prove their turn: https://web.archive.org/web/20170901074123/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2136287

They, including the bounty manager, did not even mention this change. Such lack of transparancy doesn't build trust.




Compare it to the 1% of today's announcement:




I also have It on my translated thread Wink
I was totally transparent changing the number to show What it was before
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I also have It on my translated thread Wink
I read a reply from a team member at Telegram. The 2.5% counts for the 'bug / hacker bounty'. I understand that they by mistake posted that 2.5% for the other bounties, and when they discovered the mistake it was changed to 1%. That was already a month ago or so. Which could be correct since my translation of 3 Oct. indeed reflects the 1%.

This typo explanation I find reasonable to accept. For me it doesn't matter since the change doesn't affect me. But the explanation does make me happy because I can keep my trust in the project, which was shaken somewhat today.

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I also have It on my translated thread Wink
I read a reply from a team member at Telegram. The 2.5% counts for the 'bug / hacker bounty'. I understand that they by mistake posted that 2.5% for the other bounties, and when they discovered the mistake it was changed to 1%. That was already a month ago or so. Which could be correct since my translation of 3 Oct. indeed reflects the 1%.

This typo explanation I find reasonable to accept. For me it doesn't matter since the change doesn't affect me. But the explanation does make me happy because I can keep my trust in the project, which was shaken somewhat today.

Still, if that's okay for you, this is not okay for people who translated the thread with these 2,5% in mind, i had the time to take the bounty, translate it after few days and it was still 2,5% at the moment i finished since i took the bbcode to translate the bounty thread too, it seems really Big to be a "mistake" , and that "mistake" made a lot of people choose this bounty between August and septembre, and now they have enough people they discovered a supposed "mistake " weeks after the beginning of the bounty when they had enough participants, this is how It looks since they were hiding the change until i discover it.

Imagine in real life someone  gives you a job to do, promise a specific reward and once your work is done, he tells you " ha sorry it was a miscalculation after all, you won't even get 50% of what we offered to you, deal with it" , no honest person would do that and this is not because we are in a crypto world that it's acceptable to have such behavior.

This is just totally dishonest, even if it does not affect you, it should make you think, if they are being like this and hiding it changing What was written without warning people and without offering any solution to people who came here with the Old information, they are not trust worthy and could do other change to the ICO for supposed "mistakes" discovered weeks after enough is collected..

You should in fact watch their reaction to this issue to see if they are trust worthy or not , if they are pro or not, a really serious project would discuss and offer a fair solution for first participants if It's really a mistake, so their next move will show something important for investors.



Edit : and i now have the proof it was not a typo mistake since the dev stated several Time himself 2,5% for the bounties, talking about translation in the same sentence. So now a lie, this is not going in the good direction...
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I also have It on my translated thread Wink
I read a reply from a team member at Telegram. The 2.5% counts for the 'bug / hacker bounty'. I understand that they by mistake posted that 2.5% for the other bounties, and when they discovered the mistake it was changed to 1%. That was already a month ago or so. Which could be correct since my translation of 3 Oct. indeed reflects the 1%.

This typo explanation I find reasonable to accept. For me it doesn't matter since the change doesn't affect me. But the explanation does make me happy because I can keep my trust in the project, which was shaken somewhat today.

Still, if that's okay for you, this is not okay for people who translated the thread with these 2,5% in mind, i had the time to take the bounty, translate it after few days and it was still 2,5% at the moment i finished since i took the bbcode to translate the bounty thread too, it seems really Big to be a "mistake" , and that "mistake" made a lot of people choose this bounty between August and septembre, and now they have enough people they discovered a supposed "mistake " weeks after the beginning of the bounty when they had enough participants, this is how It looks since they were hiding the change until i discover it.

Imagine in real life someone  gives you a job to do, promise a specific reward and once your work is done, he tells you " ha sorry it was a miscalculation after all, you won't even get 50% of what we offered to you, deal with it" , no honest person would do that and this is not because we are in a crypto world that it's acceptable to have such behavior.

This is just totally dishonest, even if it does not affect you, it should make you think, if they are being like this and hiding it changing What was written without warning people and without offering any solution to people who came here with the Old information, they are not trust worthy and could do other change to the ICO for supposed "mistakes" discovered weeks after enough is collected..

You should in fact watch their reaction to this issue to see if they are trust worthy or not , if they are pro or not, a really serious project would discuss and offer a fair solution for first participants if It's really a mistake, so their next move will show something important for investors.



Edit : and i now have the proof it was not a typo mistake since the dev stated several Time himself 2,5% for the bounties , talking about translation in the same sentence. So now a lie, this is not going in the good direction...

Maybe its because some country don't get/or a few one/ investors (indou, romanian, etc..), so translation don't give them so much coin. But french people are real big investors, so a nice translation with our best french translator deserve his stake.

I just said maybe.. but its possible people didn't get that indou will invest 0.005eth and french 10k...
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Still, if that's okay for you, this is not okay for people who translated the thread with these 2,5% in mind, i had the time to take the bounty, translate it after few days and it was still 2,5% at the moment i finished since i took the bbcode to translate the bounty thread too, it seems really Big to be a "mistake" , and that "mistake" made a lot of people choose this bounty between August and septembre, and now they have enough people they discovered a supposed "mistake " weeks after the beginning of the bounty when they had enough participants, this is how It looks since they were hiding the change until i discover it.

Imagine in real life someone  gives you a job to do, promise a specific reward and once your work is done, he tells you " ha sorry it was a miscalculation after all, you won't even get 50% of what we offered to you, deal with it" , no honest person would do that and this is not because we are in a crypto world that it's acceptable to have such behavior.

This is just totally dishonest, even if it does not affect you, it should make you think, if they are being like this and hiding it changing What was written without warning people and without offering any solution to people who came here with the Old information, they are not trust worthy and could do other change to the ICO for supposed "mistakes" discovered weeks after enough is collected..

You should in fact watch their reaction to this issue to see if they are trust worthy or not , if they are pro or not, a really serious project would discuss and offer a fair solution for first participants if It's really a mistake, so their next move will show something important for investors.



Edit : and i now have the proof it was not a typo mistake since the dev stated several Time himself 2,5% for the bounties, talking about translation in the same sentence. So now a lie, this is not going in the good direction...

Agreed from my side. If it wasn't a mistake but simply a twist and turn this is bad treatment of and contempt for bounty hunters. I would be dissapointed in Minerva. If it was a true mistake I can have understanding for that, since we're all human. But then I do feel they should compensate bounty hunters like you with a 2.5%, to make up for their own mistake. That would be fair policy to me and that is how I would deal with this. I also feel it would be good if they would give out a clear statement here in this topic. I'm not further going to participate in the discussion, but I saw in the Authorship topic what unfair treatment of bounty hunters can do to a project. Minerva shouldn't take a gamble with this. Transparancy, clarity and fairness are highly appreciated in a scene where so many scammers dwell (both on the project side as on the bounty hunter side).

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