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December 02, 2017, 05:15:18 AM
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I'm struggling to get that Onda D1800 to work. I've plugged in one Vega56 but the board won't post 50% of the time... And when it does it's just not working properly (start button not working, big lag on opening apps etc). No idea what's going on.

I've set everything to UEFI in Bios, plugged the gpu in the first slot and the molex in the first socket.

Chinese crap, this... Sad

Update to latest BIOS?

BIOS defaults and install fresh Windows should work

I am working on a 8 x Vega64 rig now on Win10 with Colorful 8 slot board fully powered with Delta 2400w server power supply... fingers crossed.... will post later when the rig is up.

My generic 8 slot was doing 7 Evga 1070ti hybrid. At 495 sols and a 1080 ti hybrid doing720 sols.

So I pulled the 1080 ti moved it put in the 8 th 1070 ti. And now no clocks work so I get only 420 sols.

Every card is saying vga driver not 1070 ti

I think smos need to update driver for the 1070 ti

If I swap the 180 ti back in I can clock all eight cards.

One says 1080 ti the other 7  read vga nivida. But I can do the clocks that give me 498 sols

Driver update for smos is needed

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December 02, 2017, 06:21:10 AM
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Looks like theres a V2.0 of the ONDA board:

ONDA B250 BTC-D8P(Ver:2.0) http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Specifications.aspx?id=376

has anyone tried it or know where to buy it?

What about the :

COLORFUL B250A-BTC PLUS V20 http://www.colorfly.eu/iGame/C.B250A-BTC PLUS V20.html

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December 02, 2017, 10:28:48 AM
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I'm struggling to get that Onda D1800 to work. I've plugged in one Vega56 but the board won't post 50% of the time... And when it does it's just not working properly (start button not working, big lag on opening apps etc). No idea what's going on.

I've set everything to UEFI in Bios, plugged the gpu in the first slot and the molex in the first socket.

Chinese crap, this... Sad

Update to latest BIOS?

BIOS defaults and install fresh Windows should work

I am working on a 8 x Vega64 rig now on Win10, with Colorful 8 slot board fully powered with Delta 2400w server power supply... fingers crossed.... will post later when the rig is up.
Haven't found any driver or bios for the D1800 so far. I'll check again, it was late last night... I re-initialised the bios and reinstalled Win10. It's a little better but I still get the display lag (nothing happens if I left-click the start button, until I right-click. Same when I start any other application, it's very weird).

Only starts doing this after I install the display driver btw.

Tried to start CastXMR using one bone stock Vega but am just getting an error message:
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December 02, 2017, 11:08:34 AM
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Unfortunately those 25MM msata drives are too short.  There is only a screw down stand off for 40MM units.  This is the case on both the Onda and Colorful boards.
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December 02, 2017, 11:40:06 AM
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Looks like theres a V2.0 of the ONDA board:

ONDA B250 BTC-D8P(Ver:2.0) http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Specifications.aspx?id=376


anyone else notice ddr3 spec on the v2.0?

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December 02, 2017, 11:53:09 AM
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Looks like theres a V2.0 of the ONDA board:

ONDA B250 BTC-D8P(Ver:2.0) http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Specifications.aspx?id=376


anyone else notice ddr3 spec on the v2.0?

Not really surprising, you can find cheap DDR3 RAM on 2nd hand market, miners don't really need that much/faster RAM anyway.
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December 02, 2017, 12:01:32 PM
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Thanks to all show have posted good info on Nvidia GPUs. I still hope to build that GTX rig in the near future but think I will build a Vega 56 rig first since I already have 3 of them sitting here that I luckily got for about $430 each (avg cost). Was really trying to find a 4th but they are completely gone from OEMs and retailers and now even used ones on ebay are going for ~$600!  Sorry, but i refuse to pay at least 50% mark-up from the $400 retail on these things, even if it means going with a 3x rig for now.  

My question for those who are running Vega's... are there any different components needed to support them, as per say, vs am Rx-470 rig?  I'm assuming my ASRock BTC R2 mobo will suffice, but what about the CPU & RAM?  I just ordered a couple G3260's to fit that 1150 socket (previously used G3258s but those are pretty much gone)... assuming this should work with Vega right?  but what about RAM?  I've heard some saying that you need higher rated/speed RAM to fully utilize the HBM2 in those Vega's but does anyone know if this is true?  My rx470 rigs are all using 2x4GB DDR3 1600. Will that be sufficient to run these Vega's?

I'm running a rig of 8 Vega's 64 Sapphire. It has 4 Gb Corsair ram and a Skylake Pentium G4400 processor. I've tried also on a Celeron G3930 Kaby Lake and it's working. Just remember to set at least 8Gb virtual memory / GPU in Windows.
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December 02, 2017, 01:15:39 PM
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Looks like theres a V2.0 of the ONDA board:

ONDA B250 BTC-D8P(Ver:2.0) http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Specifications.aspx?id=376

has anyone tried it or know where to buy it?

What about the :

COLORFUL B250A-BTC PLUS V20 http://www.colorfly.eu/iGame/C.B250A-BTC PLUS V20.html



My supplier can preorder them for me.
I don't do preorders with my money any more.


main body       
B250 BTC-D8P motherboard
platform       
Intel LGA1151 platform
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Intel B250
CPU pin       
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1 x ddr3 memory slot
Memory standard       
DDR3 1600 / 1333MHz 1.35V
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8GB
SATA       
2 SATA interfaces, 1 MSATA interface
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audio port       
Video interface       
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Network card specifications       
100M / 1000M
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Three
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185 * 500mm
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twenty four
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8 x PCI-E x1 graphics interface
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December 02, 2017, 01:22:38 PM
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Your seller was pretty good Phil

1 sample = no issues
10 boards = no issues
10 boards = no issues


21 for 21 is good.
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December 02, 2017, 01:29:14 PM
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Your seller was pretty good Phil

1 sample = no issues
10 boards = no issues
10 boards = no issues


21 for 21 is good.

Yes  but  the preorder  is different.
It would be an order of 10 boards  no test sample.
Stuff is selling like mad.
She told me  Dec 10-15.
I do not want to send say 1500 usd via paypal  and get stuck  waiting until  Dec 20 for them to show.
Coins are in a frenzy at the moment. Crash has to come.  If I order  a board in stock  I get it in 3-5 days  I do not want to get stuck  with 10 boards that no one wants.

I am close to capacity in my 3 spots my gear is in.

I now have 10 older boards like the biostar z170  or aorus z270.

I just don't need  to order until they are in stock.  I will check back with my alibaba seller on monday.

coins are once again over 11,000  I sold some this morning.

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December 02, 2017, 08:53:51 PM
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My generic 8 slot was doing 7 Evga 1070ti hybrid. At 495 sols and a 1080 ti hybrid doing720 sols.

So I pulled the 1080 ti moved it put in the 8 th 1070 ti. And now no clocks work so I get only 420 sols.

Every card is saying vga driver not 1070 ti

I think smos need to update driver for the 1070 ti

If I swap the 180 ti back in I can clock all eight cards.

One says 1080 ti the other 7  read vga nivida. But I can do the clocks that give me 498 sols

Driver update for smos is needed

 You should be able to update the drivers yourself - though I don't think there is an "apt" package for the 384.98 "supports 1070 ti" version yet, there is the "download it from NVidia and manually install it" option.

 40mm M.2 drives seem to be going the way of the dodo - do the Onda and Colorfull boards have screw holes for 80mm?

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December 02, 2017, 10:00:52 PM
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Your seller was pretty good Phil

1 sample = no issues
10 boards = no issues
10 boards = no issues


21 for 21 is good.

Yes  but  the preorder  is different.
It would be an order of 10 boards  no test sample.
Stuff is selling like mad.
She told me  Dec 10-15.
I do not want to send say 1500 usd via paypal  and get stuck  waiting until  Dec 20 for them to show.
Coins are in a frenzy at the moment. Crash has to come.  If I order  a board in stock  I get it in 3-5 days  I do not want to get stuck  with 10 boards that no one wants.

I am close to capacity in my 3 spots my gear is in.

I now have 10 older boards like the biostar z170  or aorus z270.

I just don't need  to order until they are in stock.  I will check back with my alibaba seller on monday.

coins are once again over 11,000  I sold some this morning.



Good deal - I traded in a few BtC @ 11k as well, going to try to get a buy in on a pullback -

Man I wish I would have bought out my other partners instead of totally dismantling our office space, now I only have the rigs at 2 locations, both maxed @ 70A each  - I kind of want to expand with those boards you've been getting have me itching to build again . . . but since I'm on tiered elec (0.12/0.24/0.32) I'm hesitant unless I get another warehouse.

For now I'm just going to sit on my coins, spent a little north of 60BtC for my gear back when it was sub 2k and I'm kicking myself for it. Hind-site is always king.

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Last edit: December 02, 2017, 10:19:23 PM by philipma1957
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My generic 8 slot was doing 7 Evga 1070ti hybrid. At 495 sols and a 1080 ti hybrid doing720 sols.

So I pulled the 1080 ti moved it put in the 8 th 1070 ti. And now no clocks work so I get only 420 sols.

Every card is saying vga driver not 1070 ti

I think smos need to update driver for the 1070 ti

If I swap the 180 ti back in I can clock all eight cards.

One says 1080 ti the other 7  read vga nivida. But I can do the clocks that give me 498 sols

Driver update for smos is needed

 You should be able to update the drivers yourself - though I don't think there is an "apt" package for the 384.98 "supports 1070 ti" version yet, there is the "download it from NVidia and manually install it" option.

 40mm M.2 drives seem to be going the way of the dodo - do the Onda and Colorfull boards have screw holes for 80mm?


 in smos   i have no idea how to load a driver

windows is not an issue I can load proper drivers.

Simple mining smos is the issue
my workaround is 1 1070 hybrid with 7   1070ti hybrids

the smos  then allows me clocking




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December 02, 2017, 10:48:50 PM
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Thanks to all show have posted good info on Nvidia GPUs. I still hope to build that GTX rig in the near future but think I will build a Vega 56 rig first since I already have 3 of them sitting here that I luckily got for about $430 each (avg cost). Was really trying to find a 4th but they are completely gone from OEMs and retailers and now even used ones on ebay are going for ~$600!  Sorry, but i refuse to pay at least 50% mark-up from the $400 retail on these things, even if it means going with a 3x rig for now.  

My question for those who are running Vega's... are there any different components needed to support them, as per say, vs am Rx-470 rig?  I'm assuming my ASRock BTC R2 mobo will suffice, but what about the CPU & RAM?  I just ordered a couple G3260's to fit that 1150 socket (previously used G3258s but those are pretty much gone)... assuming this should work with Vega right?  but what about RAM?  I've heard some saying that you need higher rated/speed RAM to fully utilize the HBM2 in those Vega's but does anyone know if this is true?  My rx470 rigs are all using 2x4GB DDR3 1600. Will that be sufficient to run these Vega's?

I'm running a rig of 8 Vega's 64 Sapphire. It has 4 Gb Corsair ram and a Skylake Pentium G4400 processor. I've tried also on a Celeron G3930 Kaby Lake and it's working. Just remember to set at least 8Gb virtual memory / GPU in Windows.
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Thanks for the info Bogdan... can I ask what specs your RAM is on that rig?  DDR3, DDR4?  1600Mhz or faster?  Trying to make sure that DDR3-1600 will be sufficient as that is the best my Mobo can take. Thanks also for the power numbers... this tells me I should easily be able to get 4 Vega 56's running on my EVGA 1KW PSU with plenty of headroom to spare.
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December 02, 2017, 11:12:13 PM
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To further expand on the coin price comments by Phil and others... yeah, I thought for sure that when the dip started 3 days ago we were headed for a pretty big correction. Most coins were down 10-15% and that even held into the next day. But then yesterday, essentially overnight for those in the US, almost all of those losses were erased and and now most coins are either back where they were 4 days ago or even higher.  i'm not saying there won't be another correction but the market has shown much more resiliency most of this year, meaning pretty much every dip, even the big ones, were immediately followed by a growth period where BTC and many alts hit all times highs.  but most of those prior dips lasted much longer than this recent one and took much longer to recoup losses than 2 days. To me, this likely means there is more stability in the market now, and I wouldn't be shocked to see many coins gain another 25-40% before another correction hits.

Granted, despite this optimism, I am still looking to liquidate at least a bit of my portfolio in the coming weeks.  To that end, I would like to ask what method most people like to use (aside from the obvious Coinbase) here to convert BTC to fiat (in my case, USD). I took a look at LocalBitcoins.com and there are many buyers there offering at or even above current market prices.  Has anyone used this? Is it legit?  What about the paypal option?  anything to look out for when using that?  Aside from that, any other recommendations would be appreciated.
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I know a lot of you are going to (or at least experimenting with) the 8-GPU and up Mobos... but for those of you still potentially in the market for a 4-6 GPU rig, NewEgg has probably one of the best Mobos for this back in stock at the moment at only $70.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157724&cm_re=asrock_btc-_-13-157-724-_-Product

I have 2 rigs built on this and they are by far my 2 most stable (vs the other 2 that are on BioStar TB85). I just picked up 2 in case I end up keeping my Vega's & building a GTX rig.

Very cool thanks for the link - I bought a bunch of spare ASUS Primes just in case any of ours failed, but they're still sitting brand new all this time lol.

Sure thing... and I think it was QuintLeo who mentioned the drawback of that Mobo is the now hard to find 1150-based CPUs. Indeed this is true as the G3258's I used in my 4 rigs are pretty much gone. But, I was able to find a very close alternative (G3260) and Jet.com has them in stock for a decent $70-$75. If anyone is still potentially going to build a rig on a 1150 Mobo, might be a good idea to pick a few of these up soon before they are all gone.
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To further expand on the coin price comments by Phil and others... yeah, I thought for sure that when the dip started 3 days ago we were headed for a pretty big correction. Most coins were down 10-15% and that even held into the next day. But then yesterday, essentially overnight for those in the US, almost all of those losses were erased and and now most coins are either back where they were 4 days ago or even higher.  i'm not saying there won't be another correction but the market has shown much more resiliency most of this year, meaning pretty much every dip, even the big ones, were immediately followed by a growth period where BTC and many alts hit all times highs.  but most of those prior dips lasted much longer than this recent one and took much longer to recoup losses than 2 days. To me, this likely means there is more stability in the market now, and I wouldn't be shocked to see many coins gain another 25-40% before another correction hits.

Granted, despite this optimism, I am still looking to liquidate at least a bit of my portfolio in the coming weeks.  To that end, I would like to ask what method most people like to use (aside from the obvious Coinbase) here to convert BTC to fiat (in my case, USD). I took a look at LocalBitcoins.com and there are many buyers there offering at or even above current market prices.  Has anyone used this? Is it legit?  What about the paypal option?  anything to look out for when using that?  Aside from that, any other recommendations would be appreciated.


The bulk of coins are staying in my wallet, I only transferred over 5 to play with, I really don't trust Poloniex to transfer a ton of coins into, especially since I only have 2k limit accounts.


And I would NEVER use coinbase again, especially now more than ever. I have always traded through localbitcoins or traders on the darknet if I don't feel like meeting up with anyone.
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December 02, 2017, 11:41:19 PM
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To further expand on the coin price comments by Phil and others... yeah, I thought for sure that when the dip started 3 days ago we were headed for a pretty big correction. Most coins were down 10-15% and that even held into the next day. But then yesterday, essentially overnight for those in the US, almost all of those losses were erased and and now most coins are either back where they were 4 days ago or even higher.  i'm not saying there won't be another correction but the market has shown much more resiliency most of this year, meaning pretty much every dip, even the big ones, were immediately followed by a growth period where BTC and many alts hit all times highs.  but most of those prior dips lasted much longer than this recent one and took much longer to recoup losses than 2 days. To me, this likely means there is more stability in the market now, and I wouldn't be shocked to see many coins gain another 25-40% before another correction hits.

Granted, despite this optimism, I am still looking to liquidate at least a bit of my portfolio in the coming weeks.  To that end, I would like to ask what method most people like to use (aside from the obvious Coinbase) here to convert BTC to fiat (in my case, USD). I took a look at LocalBitcoins.com and there are many buyers there offering at or even above current market prices.  Has anyone used this? Is it legit?  What about the paypal option?  anything to look out for when using that?  Aside from that, any other recommendations would be appreciated.

Never never never never sell btc  for paypal.

The buyer has  6 months to scam you  no matter what you do.

I don't know why  you won't use coinbase  but if you have never used coinbase and don't have an account setup  thats a reason.

With coinbase sells  sell  under 1000 usd two or three days in a row.  You will be fine.

Never do a big  coinbase sale send receive or pruchase.  The ruling handed down  this month for IRS access to coinbase is simple:

 any 20000 dollar move of any kind

a sale for fiat
a purchase for fiat
a send
a receive and Coinbase has to send all your records  to the IRS  from 2013 to 2015  not sure about  2016 or 2017.

So to be safe  do under 0.75 coins  in a move  and don't do    3 moves of 0.75  close to each other.

sales of 1000 usd  are not close to the ruling.

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Coinbase appeared in federal court this month in the continued fight with the IRS over our customers’ privacy. You can read more in this blog.
We are pleased to say Coinbase won a partial victory in court today. Although the Court did not completely quash the government summons compelling disclosure of certain customers’ records from the period 2013–2015 as we requested, we were proud to accomplish two important victories for our customers.
First, the government vastly narrowed the scope of its summons. The government’s own lawyers noted at the hearing that the IRS is not accustomed to having to fight for records in this context, and most companies just turn records over without going to court. Thanks to Coinbase’s efforts, more than 480,000 customers’ records were preserved from disclosure. This is a 97% reduction in the number of customers impacted by this summons.
Second, the quantity of data we must produce for the approximately 14,000 customers who remain in scope has been significantly reduced. In narrowing the scope of the summons, we are pleased that the Court acknowledged the privacy rights at stake in this matter.
Coinbase started this process more than 12 months ago, and while today’s result is not the complete victory we hoped for, it does represent a substantial and unprecedented victory for the industry and the hundreds of thousands of customers that would have been unfairly targeted if it weren’t for our action. Although we are disappointed not to be able to entirely defeat the summons, we are proud to fight for our customers and in the result we were able to achieve as a small company against a large government agency.
Coinbase is in the process of reviewing the order. As we proceed, we will continue to keep our customers updated. Coinbase has millions of customers and the narrowed summons affects approximately 14,000 of the highest-transacting customers from 2 to 4 years ago. This represents less than 1% of our customer base. In the event that we ultimately produce the documents under this Court order, we intend to notify impacted users in advance of any disclosure.
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December 02, 2017, 11:55:52 PM
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I don't know why  you won't use coinbase  but if you have never used coinbase and don't have an account setup  thats a reason.


Very simple actually - I had a fully verified account in 2013 they froze for no reason. Fought them for months on it and basically ripped off a very large chunk of coin from me. During that time and even now there have been hundreds upon hundreds of people they've done this to.

To each their own, if you're comfortable using them by all means, I'm just more comfortable handling large sums of cash in person.
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December 03, 2017, 12:41:44 AM
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Isn't the new Coinbase/IRS deal that they have to report any user that does $20,000.00 in transactions in a single year?  If it's $20k in a single transaction then I doubt we will ever have that ourselves. Since we make records of everything anyways we will be paying taxes either way, but it would actually be nice to receive tax forms from Coinbase rather then doubling our paperwork that we have by doing it all manually.
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