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July 14, 2011, 01:45:56 AM
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July 14, 2011, 04:37:36 AM
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I think compressing hydrogen into stars would be a good idea, then you also get rare metals as well like gold and platinum for use as catalysts.

of course even a star from the gas as small as a stadium would have global effects, but if it were the size of a medium house, and done in the ocean, it would mean energy for the entire world all for the cost of some hydrogen and the energy to compress it, assuming it don't kill us all and we can compress it enough.

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July 14, 2011, 04:49:23 AM
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I think compressing hydrogen into stars would be a good idea, then you also get rare metals as well like gold and platinum for use as catalysts.

of course even a star from the gas as small as a stadium would have global effects, but if it were the size of a medium house, and done in the ocean, it would mean energy for the entire world all for the cost of some hydrogen and the energy to compress it, assuming it don't kill us all and we can compress it enough.

There are MUCH better ways of making fusion plants than a naked star...

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July 14, 2011, 04:57:54 AM
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I think compressing hydrogen into stars would be a good idea, then you also get rare metals as well like gold and platinum for use as catalysts.

of course even a star from the gas as small as a stadium would have global effects, but if it were the size of a medium house, and done in the ocean, it would mean energy for the entire world all for the cost of some hydrogen and the energy to compress it, assuming it don't kill us all and we can compress it enough.

There are MUCH better ways of making fusion plants than a naked star...

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and yes, i know that idea was half assed at best.

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July 14, 2011, 05:00:55 AM
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I think compressing hydrogen into stars would be a good idea, then you also get rare metals as well like gold and platinum for use as catalysts.

of course even a star from the gas as small as a stadium would have global effects, but if it were the size of a medium house, and done in the ocean, it would mean energy for the entire world all for the cost of some hydrogen and the energy to compress it, assuming it don't kill us all and we can compress it enough.

There are MUCH better ways of making fusion plants than a naked star...

Like?

and yes, i know that idea was half assed at best.

Like wrapping it in a magnetic bottle...

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July 14, 2011, 05:03:57 AM
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I think compressing hydrogen into stars would be a good idea, then you also get rare metals as well like gold and platinum for use as catalysts.

of course even a star from the gas as small as a stadium would have global effects, but if it were the size of a medium house, and done in the ocean, it would mean energy for the entire world all for the cost of some hydrogen and the energy to compress it, assuming it don't kill us all and we can compress it enough.

There are MUCH better ways of making fusion plants than a naked star...

Like?

and yes, i know that idea was half assed at best.

Like wrapping it in a magnetic bottle...

saw the magnet thing and thought of this


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July 14, 2011, 05:11:58 AM
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I think compressing hydrogen into stars would be a good idea, then you also get rare metals as well like gold and platinum for use as catalysts.

All elements beyond iron consume energy in their production, and can only occur within certain types of stars at certain stages.  Even if we were to crack the fusion issue, the most that we could expect from it would be helium.

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July 14, 2011, 05:26:31 AM
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July 14, 2011, 05:41:54 AM
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July 14, 2011, 05:46:22 AM
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Like wrapping it in a magnetic bottle...

it has design challenges, but is no doubtfully safer than my suicide plan.

but for now i think the best solution is nuclear and launching the waste into space toward the sun using the magnetic rails to escape the earths gravity, overcoming the dangers of rockets and them being a dirty bomb.

i will try to answer the question the thread was made for as well, although i don't fully understand the subject of nuclear chemistry, i know a thing or 2.

Fertile material is a term used to describe nuclides which generally themselves do not undergo induced fission (fissionable by thermal neutrons) but from which fissile material is generated by neutron absorption and subsequent nuclei conversions. Fertile materials that occur naturally which can be converted into a fissile material by irradiation in a reactor include:
thorium-232 which converts into uranium-233
uranium-234 which converts into uranium-235
uranium-238 which converts into plutonium-239

so really nuclear reactors work by just giving some elements from neutrons and them making another fissile isotope, then that splits and releases energy and various elements.

From what i can tell the advantage to using Th is that it does not need to be enriched as opposed to U? i have no idea if that is correct because i do not know what it is or looks like right out of the ground. id be nice to have a nuclear engineer around to explain it all fully.

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July 14, 2011, 02:44:54 PM
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From what i can tell the advantage to using Th is that it does not need to be enriched as opposed to U? i have no idea if that is correct because i do not know what it is or looks like right out of the ground. id be nice to have a nuclear engineer around to explain it all fully.

Some reactors will run nicely on unenriched uranium, like CANDU.  Handily, it will also run on thorium, among other things like slightly processed light water reactor waste (it still contains about as much U-235 as unenriched uranium), recycled plutonium, and more.
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July 17, 2011, 02:21:19 PM
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Deuterium.  Polywell reactor.  A simple home fusion reactor.  Go make your own sun, kids!  http://www.emc2fusion.org/, http://talk-polywell.org/bb/index.php
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July 17, 2011, 02:23:02 PM
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would i die if i made that

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July 18, 2011, 05:08:16 AM
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would i die if i made that

Only if you were hanging around when it was running.  The polywell, and it's derivatives, are not that hard to make, really; and have been used as a neutron source for medical experiments for decades.  The hard part is getting the deutritium, and getting over-parity out of one.  Neither goal is trivial.

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July 18, 2011, 03:43:13 PM
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would i die if i made that

Only if you were hanging around when it was running.  The polywell, and it's derivatives, are not that hard to make, really; and have been used as a neutron source for medical experiments for decades.  The hard part is getting the deutritium, and getting over-parity out of one.  Neither goal is trivial.

yeah, i knew the second they mentioned D, id probably never make one  Cry

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July 18, 2011, 04:14:22 PM
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Deuterium.  Polywell reactor.  A simple home fusion reactor.  Go make your own sun, kids!  http://www.emc2fusion.org/, http://talk-polywell.org/bb/index.php

polywell.  the CPU miner of the power production world.

none of their reactors thus far is energy positive.  they're only currently useful for research or as a neutron beam source (a fusor is more efficient for this).
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July 23, 2011, 04:23:42 AM
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Actually, last claims were above unity.  Then the Navy took over.  Curious.
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October 06, 2011, 09:12:45 AM
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Google video "thorium". There's at least 3 interesting talks.

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