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We are launching an Q&A session on this thread starting from now and will last till 10 PM UTC. Answers to all the questions will be posted live.

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Can developers publish illegal game, such as some morally unacceptable game on OREN Platform? Will it be always on the blockchain as long as there are host nodes supporting it or players paying for it?

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Can developers publish illegal game, such as some morally unacceptable game on OREN Platform? Will it be always on the blockchain as long as there are host nodes supporting it or players paying for it?

The blockchain is controlled by the whole community, not an individual. So, in a sense yes it is possible. But, if the host nodes don't support such games, then it won't reach to the gamers. Gamers can make a filter based on the rating/quality of a host node in order to avoid such games. The best option here is that to not include those kinds of nodes with the default wallets. So, if someone wants to play such games, they would have to manually list those host nodes who supply that kind of games and then carry on. If a person is willing to go that far to play a game, there is no way to stop him/her from doing so, irrespective to it being a blockchain based platform or just a normal server based platform as we see in the open.

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September 11, 2017, 02:31:54 PM
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Can developers publish illegal game, such as some morally unacceptable game on OREN Platform? Will it be always on the blockchain as long as there are host nodes supporting it or players paying for it?

The blockchain is controlled by the whole community, not an individual. So, in a sense yes it is possible. But, if the host nodes don't support such games, then it won't reach to the gamers. Gamers can make a filter based on the rating/quality of a host node in order to avoid such games.

So can developers/gamers/publishers be anonymous? It is possible for developers/gamers/publishers to use Tor network? Also, in my opinion, there will always be someone who would like to play that kind of game, if there are enough demand for the game, there will always be someone hosting it.

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Can developers publish illegal game, such as some morally unacceptable game on OREN Platform? Will it be always on the blockchain as long as there are host nodes supporting it or players paying for it?

The blockchain is controlled by the whole community, not an individual. So, in a sense yes it is possible. But, if the host nodes don't support such games, then it won't reach to the gamers. Gamers can make a filter based on the rating/quality of a host node in order to avoid such games.

So can developers/gamers/publishers be anonymous? It is possible for developers/gamers/publishers to use Tor network? Also, in my opinion, there will always be someone who would like to play that kind of game, if there are enough demand for the game, there will always be someone hosting it.

Since no one can control the access to a blockchain node, it is possible to use Tor Network. And yes they may host those games, but thats the same with all central servers too. It would be the police's work to take them down. And we would cooperate to your best in order to locate such nodes.

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September 11, 2017, 02:57:43 PM
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In SIA, the one who host the storage can prevent from legal issue by declaring they have no knowledge to the files they store. Is it the same for OREN? Can those who host the game escape from legal issue by saying they don't know who are playing, what are being played?

I am imagining a totally unstoppable gaming platform.

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In SIA, the one who host the storage can prevent from legal issue by declaring they have no knowledge to the files they store. Is it the same for OREN? Can those who host the game escape from legal issue by saying they don't know who are playing, what are being played?

I am imagining a totally unstoppable gaming platform.

You sure do have some interesting questions.

In SIA, the host only rents the space and it is true he/she doesn't know whats been stored there. But, on OREN Platform the host node is knowingly bidding for a game license token he/she wants to host on his/her node. So, that rule doesn't apply here. So, I guess this also answers you question regarding the immoral games as legal actions can be taken against those host nodes who are hosting such games,

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do you have twitter bounty campaign?

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do you have twitter bounty campaign?

The social media bounty thread is here
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2146773

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We will allow comparison with other similar platforms. But, please be respectful in your post.

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I have a problem: there are many such projects on the market now. I also read the white paper, and I only found that it was a token issued in the ETH smart contract. So, first: where is the innovation point of this project? Innovation is the foundation of sustainable development in the future. What are your strengths? After all, there are many items like this. Second, project application landing situation? Judge whether a project is good or bad. Mainly look at the application of the project landing situation. What efforts have been made to this end?. How's it going?. Not just shouting slogans.

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I have a problem: there are many such projects on the market now. I also read the white paper, and I only found that it was a token issued in the ETH smart contract. So, first: where is the innovation point of this project? Innovation is the foundation of sustainable development in the future. What are your strengths? After all, there are many items like this. Second, project application landing situation? Judge whether a project is good or bad. Mainly look at the application of the project landing situation. What efforts have been made to this end?. How's it going?. Not just shouting slogans.


"I have a problem: there are many such projects on the market now. "
Ans: We are open to comparison, give us the names you have on your mind.



"I also read the white paper, and I only found that it was a token issued in the ETH smart contract. So, first: where is the innovation point of this project? "
Ans: Seems, like you really didn't read the whitepaper if full.


"After all, there are many items like this."
Ans: Give us the names you want to compare our project with and we will gladly help you sort out.


"Second, project application landing situation? Judge whether a project is good or bad. Mainly look at the application of the project landing situation. What efforts have been made to this end?. How's it going?. Not just shouting slogans."
Ans: Seems like you didn't even visit the website at all.

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1. How to avoid the legal scope of the various countries, open platform will have a variety of games, is not it?
2. Is the limit level effective, does i mean whether the game has a good or bad rating system?
3. How does the game developer's personal ownership protect? The same type of game can only have one?
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1. How to avoid the legal scope of the various countries, open platform will have a variety of games, is not it?
2. Is the limit level effective, does i mean whether the game has a good or bad rating system?
3. How does the game developer's personal ownership protect? The same type of game can only have one?
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1. What do you mean by avoid legal scope? What are you trying to suggest, provide an example. Open platform can have variety of games just like if you host a website where you put up a variety of games. What games you put up on your site is something for you to decide. We have no hand in this.

2. By limit level, what are you suggesting? And yes every games host nodes have a rating system. How we have introduced a fair rating system is provided in page-34 of the whitepaper.

3. This question have been asked multiple times on this thread alone, please visit page two of this thread. We have answered this question from both government's point of view as well as technical point of view.



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September 12, 2017, 02:08:30 PM
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how does this project compare to the ENJIN coin that has a presale this days ?
would be very intersted in a side by side comparison.

EDIT: link to the ANN of ENJIN COIN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042871.0

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September 12, 2017, 04:28:37 PM
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how does this project compare to the ENJIN coin that has a presale this days ?
would be very intersted in a side by side comparison.

EDIT: link to the ANN of ENJIN COIN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042871.0

Enjin is going to launch a platform where devs can use their api to create tokens representing the game items. But, firstly comparing OREN with Enjin is not valid because OREN is a totally decentralized platform and anyone can use it as no central authority controls any part of the OREN Platform. But, we can't say the same for Enjin.

Secondly, Enjin is depending on Ethereum's "future" offered update knows as Casper. If these third party "future" updates don't come through, or something changes on the way, then this project will face a massive challenge.

As for the path Enjin have to take if Casper don't come through is full of obstacles which have been described on page 33-35 of our whitepaper.

Ejin just solved the problem of creating in-game items and giving it a market value. But, OREN goes much further than that.

Core differences between Ejin and OREN Platform other than the blockchain limitations:


1. No revenue sharing model is provided in Enjin. OREN Platform's revenue sharing model between game developers and publishers is totally open market auction based where this is handled by smart contracts and the revenue distribution takes place automatically without any middle man or in fact any man at all.

2. The game itself is not protected by the blockchain on Enjin, only the game items are. On OREN Platform the game key itself is a blockchain asset which helps to takes down piracy of games.

3. Enjin don't connect all the required parties needed for the online game industry to work. It only connects the game developers and the gamers. We took it a step further by bringing in the game publishers and ad sponsors along with decentralized streaming services for gamers to earn a decent income.

4. OREN Offers built in decentralized exchange for game and game item trading. We are working on a way to integrate trade against other crypto currencies too. This also helps developers and host nodes/ game publishers to liquidate oren coins to something like bitcoin which can be cashed out to fiat easily. And also provides an easy medium for players to get oren coins.

5. OREN provides a means of competitive gaming which Ejin again don't. Players can arrange competition without any third-party requirements. Let's say, there is a racing game. 10 players agreed to play in a competition where they have to pay 10 OREN coins each. The winning prize will be 50 OREN coins, first runner up will get 30 and second runner up will get 20. This can be managed through the OREN platform easily. A user-friendly GUI smart contract system is going to be built to solve just that. The smart contract will ask for a deposit from all the participants and once it's done the competition can be started on any host node of the participants’ choice. After the competition is over, the smart contract will distribute the prizes automatically and instantly. All of these without a single drop of technical knowledge required by the gamers to use them and neither any third party required to judge or distribute the prizes.

6. OREN is a complete solution which not only solves the problem of gaming but also have means of protecting its coin value, which is similar to protecting its whole system. It comes with a safety mechanism for massive price drops from market manipulation (price dumps). There will be a coin lock up system where users lock up their coins for a specific time. During this time their coins will be inaccessible. After the time period is over they will get their coins back with an additional interest automatically through the Blockchain. Our unique algorithm will provide interest rates based on market analysis. Therefore, huge coin holders will find it more profitable to lock up coins instead of dumping them on the market. Moreover, as more gamers engage on the platform, the usage of the coins will rise creating more demand. This system will auto try to reduces the active supply of ORENs if a mega dump takes place by offering maximum possible interest rates on lock-up for early birds. Which will then in return nullify the negative effect on the price due to the dump in a couple of hours.

7. OREN also looks after its game developers. There is a built in crowdfunding platform for funding game projects on oren platform. It also protects the investor's fund by distributing the investments into milestones. Only if the milestones have been reached by the game developer, then that specific fund is released to the developer.

8. We are leaving off some other features so that this reading doesn't become too much exaggerating or boring. If you are interested in knowing more, then please read our whitepaper.
 

As you can see, Enjin only solves a single part of the problem which we are trying so solve. OREN is a much large scale operation which is moving towards a much bigger picture. But lets see what the future holds. Maybe we could learn a thing or two from Enjin's framework/sdk as well, we never know.



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September 12, 2017, 04:42:30 PM
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how does this project compare to the ENJIN coin that has a presale this days ?
would be very intersted in a side by side comparison.

EDIT: link to the ANN of ENJIN COIN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042871.0

Enjin is going to launch a platform where devs can use their api to create tokens representing the game items. But, firstly comparing OREN with Enjin is not valid because OREN is a totally decentralized platform and anyone can use it as no central authority controls any part of the OREN Platform. But, we can't say the same for Enjin.

Secondly, Enjin is depending on Ethereum's "future" offered update knows as Casper. If these third party "future" updates don't come through, or something changes on the way, then this project will face a massive challenge.

As for the path Enjin have to take if Casper don't come through is full of obstacles which have been described on page 33-35 of our whitepaper.

Ejin just solved the problem of creating in-game items and giving it a market value. But, OREN goes much further than that.

Core differences between Ejin and OREN Platform other than the blockchain limitations:


1. No revenue sharing model is provided in Enjin. OREN Platform's revenue sharing model between game developers and publishers is totally open market auction based where this is handled by smart contracts and the revenue distribution takes place automatically without any middle man or in fact any man at all.

2. The game itself is not protected by the blockchain on Enjin, only the game items are. On OREN Platform the game key itself is a blockchain asset which helps to takes down piracy of games.

3. Enjin don't connect all the required parties needed for the online game industry to work. It only connects the game developers and the gamers. We took it a step further by bringing in the game publishers and ad sponsors along with decentralized streaming services for gamers to earn a decent income.

4. OREN Offers built in decentralized exchange for game and game item trading. We are working on a way to integrate trade against other crypto currencies too. This also helps developers and host nodes/ game publishers to liquidate oren coins to something like bitcoin which can be cashed out to fiat easily. And also provides an easy medium for players to get oren coins.

5. OREN provides a means of competitive gaming which Ejin again don't. Players can arrange competition without any third-party requirements. Let's say, there is a racing game. 10 players agreed to play in a competition where they have to pay 10 OREN coins each. The winning prize will be 50 OREN coins, first runner up will get 30 and second runner up will get 20. This can be managed through the OREN platform easily. A user-friendly GUI smart contract system is going to be built to solve just that. The smart contract will ask for a deposit from all the participants and once it's done the competition can be started on any host node of the participants’ choice. After the competition is over, the smart contract will distribute the prizes automatically and instantly. All of these without a single drop of technical knowledge required by the gamers to use them and neither any third party required to judge or distribute the prizes.

6. OREN is a complete solution which not only solves the problem of gaming but also have means of protecting its coin value, which is similar to protecting its whole system. It comes with a safety mechanism for massive price drops from market manipulation (price dumps). There will be a coin lock up system where users lock up their coins for a specific time. During this time their coins will be inaccessible. After the time period is over they will get their coins back with an additional interest automatically through the Blockchain. Our unique algorithm will provide interest rates based on market analysis. Therefore, huge coin holders will find it more profitable to lock up coins instead of dumping them on the market. Moreover, as more gamers engage on the platform, the usage of the coins will rise creating more demand. This system will auto try to reduces the active supply of ORENs if a mega dump takes place by offering maximum possible interest rates on lock-up for early birds. Which will then in return nullify the negative effect on the price due to the dump in a couple of hours.

7. OREN also looks after its game developers. There is a built in crowdfunding platform for funding game projects on oren platform. It also protects the investor's fund by distributing the investments into milestones. Only if the milestones have been reached by the game developer, then that specific fund is released to the developer.

8. We are leaving off some other features so that this reading doesn't become too much exaggerating or boring. If you are interested in knowing more, then please read our whitepaper.
 

As you can see, Enjin only solves a single part of the problem which we are trying so solve. OREN is a much large scale operation which is moving towards a much bigger picture. But lets see what the future holds. Maybe we could learn a thing or two from Enjin's framework/sdk as well, we never know.




Thanks that is a valid explanation ... looking forward to helping out on this project

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September 13, 2017, 10:04:30 AM
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Hello!
Interested item "Piracy protection". How does this protection work? And why piracy is impossible?
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September 13, 2017, 10:09:19 AM
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As a gamer myself, I found out this OREN is having the potential to become a nice alt coins, especially for those hardcore gamers...

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September 13, 2017, 10:20:33 AM
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I read the information on the project. I'm not a gamer, so I can not say anything concrete about this system. But, from the point of view of approach to solving issues related to the gaming industry, it seems to me that it is worth taking a closer look at this project. There is a sense of perspective.

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