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September 04, 2017, 09:14:01 PM
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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.


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Rate/cost .97

How do you figure?
1080 is generally 20-30% faster than 1070. If it cost <20% more than it is more effective.
There are 3 algo in which 1080 performs bad, even worse than 1070. But there are a lot of other algos.
E.g. neoscrypt:
1060 - 900+
1070 -1100+
1080 -1100
1060 is clear winner here .... if you won't look at amd side  Grin

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September 04, 2017, 09:17:03 PM
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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.
I would agree with this...bad reputation of 1080 makes them to cost less, but they are very good for core algos, they fail only on eth,
So if price is close to 1070 I would go to 1080 instead.

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September 05, 2017, 06:53:38 AM
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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.
I would agree with this...bad reputation of 1080 makes them to cost less, but they are very good for core algos, they fail only on eth,
So if price is close to 1070 I would go to 1080 instead.
Not only eth. 3 algos where 1080 are bad:
1) ethash 30% slower than 1070 very bad performance, but is cured by dual mining, giving slightly more than 1070 (~10%).
2) cryptonight. very bad performance
3) neoscrypt  ~1070.

1080 shine in (giving 80-100% of 1060)
1) skunk
2) lyra2r2
3) tribus

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September 06, 2017, 01:41:51 AM
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Best ROI should be with GTX 1070

I have only those NVIDIA cards, several 1080ti i took for test whitch are amazing cards but my opinion due to ROI(what most miners consider as primary question) to buy 1070.

I have much of them, EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte, Zotac, Paloc, ASUS(different types of them too) and rates for most popular hashes are :

eth : 31 - 32 mh/s
zec : 630 - 690 sols

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September 06, 2017, 02:32:06 AM
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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.

With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)

With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.


Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.


You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap Cheesy

For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070.
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September 06, 2017, 02:45:56 AM
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1080 is no good

On equihash
1060 270/sec
1070 430/sec
1080 ti  635/sec

On amazon current prices
1060 $300
1070. $500
1080 ti $750

Rate / price
1060 .90
1070 .86
1080ti  .85

Assuming the above are correct the 1080ti is the best bang for the buck.

You also have to consider what scale you are going to mine on. Motherboards, power supplies, risers, etc are not cheap. One rig with six 1080ti would certainly be more cost effective than building two rigs with six 1060.

Where are you getting 270/sec for the 1060? Mine does 300-310 at "stock" (they oc automatically) and 335-345 oced
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September 06, 2017, 02:57:27 AM
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1060 and 1070 for me. (my 1060s are more stable and less finicky than the 1070s and can be set to high memory an core clocks across every algo ive used them with).

I usually only invest whatever revenue the rig generates and buy equipment from that (very low starting capital).

While I do appreciate 1080ti I know that it will take too long for me to get increased hashing power.
Therefore Ive chosen the two low end cards (slow but steady with zero chance of loss). Also electricity for me is free so what I make through mining is pure profit.
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September 06, 2017, 06:07:05 AM
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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.

With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)

With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.


Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.


You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap Cheesy

For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070.


I'd say you're definitely skimping on the PSUs there, especially for 24/7 operation, and even after messing with clock & power settings.

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September 06, 2017, 06:11:13 AM
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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.

With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)

With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.


Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.


You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap Cheesy

For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070.


I'd say you're definitely skimping on the PSUs there, especially for 24/7 operation, and even after messing with clock & power settings.
I can confirm 6 1080 Ti with 2 850W PSUs have no problem.
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September 06, 2017, 06:36:47 AM
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i would use only 1080 , or 1080 ti

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September 06, 2017, 07:15:32 AM
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I have 2 1070's but am waiting to upgrade to 1080ti's
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October 04, 2017, 11:49:59 AM
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I love 1070 gigabyte g1 gaming , why have 1 only 8pin pciexpress , and is a great in overclock with less consumption .

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October 04, 2017, 01:11:38 PM
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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.


1080 535/sec
Amazon cost  $550
Rate/cost .97

How do you figure?
1080 is generally 20-30% faster than 1070. If it cost <20% more than it is more effective.
There are 3 algo in which 1080 performs bad, even worse than 1070. But there are a lot of other algos.
E.g. neoscrypt:
1060 - 900+
1070 -1100+
1080 -1100
1060 is clear winner here .... if you won't look at amd side  Grin

1060@6Gb with the best miner have currently 750 in neoscrypt, 1070 -1200 and 1080ti 1500. I have 1060@6gb, 1070 is too much better in the relation cost/benefit

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October 04, 2017, 02:32:12 PM
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3gb cards have a problem or will very soon with the Etherium DAG file size don't they?

My numbers were for the 6 GB version.



Those 3GB cards still have a estimated 1 year lifetime to mine ETH

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October 04, 2017, 09:01:04 PM
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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


 The 1080 is mostly not popular due to it's high price - but for many algorithms it is very competative on hash/$ (just not on ETH which is what the majority of miners are interested in).

 It's a particularly good choice on ZEC and ZEN and the other spinoffs of ZEC, where it is a tossup on hash/watt AND hash/$ with ANY other GPU model (including the 1070 and 1080ti).


 This will change if AMD card pricing on the RX series drops much more, especially if those cards ever get back down to "close to MSRP" pricing.


 3x1080ti on a single 850 (even a GOOD one like the EVGA G2 850 or the Seasonic X850) will work reliably if you turn the TDP down far enough, but it hurts hashrate noticeably to do so which is a definite MINUS if you have a low electric cost.

 You are also leaving yourself a lot fewer options on possible future coins that might be efficient at higher power settings.


 The Gigabyte 1070 Gaming G1 has a TDP of 180 watts - that's 75 from the PCI-E bus, 105 from a PCI-E 8-pin connector that even the PCI-E SPEC allows up to 150 watts of draw from.
 You'd need to push it up past 225 watts to need a second power connector, per the PCI-E specs.

 The MSI 1070 card that has 2 power connectors is RATED for a 240 watt TDP (I've got one of those) - but I've never had it get much over 200 even PUSHING it, and the cooling won't handle MUCH more than 200 on that card without GPU overheating issues unless you have a VERY cool ambient temp and a LOT of airflow around the card.



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October 05, 2017, 02:34:58 AM
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sorry, what is the ETH hashrate for 1080ti?
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October 05, 2017, 04:36:06 AM
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Of all these cards, I choose 1050ti
Cheaper than all, you can collect a lot of farms, and if you take a good card, you can get 15-16 mh/s
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October 05, 2017, 06:05:34 AM
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I use 1070. Good power and quite economical. Good investment.
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October 05, 2017, 06:20:48 PM
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sorry, what is the ETH hashrate for 1080ti?

 Ballpark 35 Mhash/sec depending on where you can get the clocks to be stable at.

 ETH is a VERY bad choice for both the 1080 and the 1080ti, as GDDR 5x latency apparently has a bad impact on ETH hashrate compared to the GDDR 5 that the 1070 and below use.

 If the rumored 1070ti shows up with GDDR5, it might be the fastest ETH miner on the Green side - but will STILL not be competative with the Red side now that RX 470/480/570/580 prices have dropped back down to semi-close to sorta reasonable and availability is improving.
 I'm going to be VERY interested to see what it does on ZEC and the like where NVidia is strong - and what the final price turns out to be.





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October 05, 2017, 07:09:34 PM
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For example  , I got  gtx 1060  6GB  Samsung memory , powerlimit  73   memory overclocked to  4780MHz  GPU downclocked to  1400MHz   ETH mining  24,9 MH/s     , GPU 1870MHz  Mem, stock  ZEC mining   310 Sol/s
the same card with  hynix memory   after oc  21 MH/s  ETH   285 Sol/s  ZEC.
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