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March 31, 2018, 04:49:02 PM
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New Core-Update coming on sunday.

ChangeLog:

-Typos fixxed from ORB -> TZC port
-IRC removed
-Stakecombine/Stakesplit raised to 5k/10k
-Config creation on first startup with all needed parameters/addnodes
-Watchonly address support
-Logo updated
-Atomic Swaps

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Thank you Chekaz
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March 31, 2018, 11:01:06 PM
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Sorry that wasn't clear - I meant PoW mining on a pool. When I posted this earlier it had not yet been a full 48 hours since I received the mining payment of 100.46 TZC; now slightly more than 48 hours have passed and my coin weight has finally started increasing (and inputs are 149, which is what I expected to see given I received one more payment).

Not a big deal, but my understanding is that new coins are added to your coin weight after 1 full day has passed, not 2. Hence why I posted this.

I don't know if you've mentioned before, but are you running a trezarcoin.conf (what is often just referred to as the conf file)?
Until the next wallet update (soon I believe), without a conf the default time-to-stake-eligible-maturity is over 24 hours.

Well, at least it wasn't a PoS-context question.
My answer to that was a lot more detailed/complicated.  Grin

Nope, I have not made nor have a trezarcoin.conf file. I've seen a few references to such, but no official documentation explaining it. I guess I am one of the few people on the planet that actually RTFM's so the lack of a manual to read is both liberating - I can't possibly be blamed for not doing things correctly - but also frustrating; more so, that, really.

However, it looks like @Chekaz is about to release a new wallet that will render this discussion moot; or, at least, actually create a .conf file.

Thanks for your help once again; your tireless devotion is one of the reasons why I keep mining this coin even though the whole market appears to have taken way too much GHB and is now puking itself into oblivion...  Tongue

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Nope, I have not made nor have a trezarcoin.conf file. I've seen a few references to such, but no official documentation explaining it. I guess I am one of the few people on the planet that actually RTFM's so the lack of a manual to read is both liberating - I can't possibly be blamed for not doing things correctly - but also frustrating; more so, that, really.

Well, you're not far off. There is some confusion in the older guides (which will be sanitized soon).
But we do have the fairly logical How To Mine nav option at the website, under which is Proof-of-Stake which leads to:
https://trezarcoin.com/pos/

The conf instructions there should be pretty decent iirc.

However, it looks like @Chekaz is about to release a new wallet that will render this discussion moot; or, at least, actually create a .conf file.

Thanks for your help once again; your tireless devotion is one of the reasons why I keep mining this coin even though the whole market appears to have taken way too much GHB and is now puking itself into oblivion...  Tongue

Yes, you are correct. The wallet update as I understand it will streamline a lot of things related to the conf as well as default values.

And it's very nice of you to express your thanks--it is certainly appreciated and not taken for granted. Cheesy
I hope that some of these responses are helpful, but I do recognize they may not always be so.  Grin
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New Core-Upgrade is live! https://github.com/trezarcoin/trezarcoin/releases

Features:
-Typos fixxed from ORB -> TZC port
-IRC removed
-Stakecombine/Stakesplit raised to 5k/10k
-Config creation on first startup with all needed parameters/addnodes
-Watchonly address support
-Logo updated
-Atomic Swaps
-Default /Data location changed to "%appdata%/TrezarCoin"

Kindly regards,
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April 02, 2018, 01:13:19 AM
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Since it is likely to be asked:

Important notice, this update is not a mandatory update.
It's an implementation of features which don't affect the "core-structure".
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April 02, 2018, 12:37:49 PM
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ChekaZ,

I swapped out the old wallet for the new one but the new one isn't finding my old wallet data.  I know it rebuilt the chain but did it completely wipe out my dat info as well?  I backed up the old wallet prior to the switch, do I have to drag that back to the appdata folder?

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question in advance.
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April 02, 2018, 12:40:06 PM
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ChekaZ,

I swapped out the old wallet for the new one but the new one isn't finding my old wallet data.  I know it rebuilt the chain but did it completely wipe out my dat info as well?  I backed up the old wallet prior to the switch, do I have to drag that back to the appdata folder?

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question in advance.

Based on my understanding of what you did, I would imagine you need to have the wallet(s) closed and copy the old one's data folder to the new location (/Data location changed to "%appdata%/TrezarCoin"). If I misunderstood, please feel free to clarify.

As always, please keep careful backups.

Good luck!
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April 02, 2018, 12:53:49 PM
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Updated bootstrap available for those that need it.
Same link as before, found in the nav for the website:

https://trezarcoin.com/bootstrap.dat
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April 02, 2018, 08:15:02 PM
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ChekaZ,

I swapped out the old wallet for the new one but the new one isn't finding my old wallet data.  I know it rebuilt the chain but did it completely wipe out my dat info as well?  I backed up the old wallet prior to the switch, do I have to drag that back to the appdata folder?

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question in advance.

Yeah its now trying to get the information out of the %appdata%/TrezarCoin Folder instead of the /Data folder next to the trezarcoin-qt.exe. So you need to copy everything which is inside of your /Data folder into the %appdata%/TrezarCoin Folder.

We added that to prevent wallet.dat losses, as it doesnt get "rebuilt" everytime you move your trezarcoin-qt.exe

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April 02, 2018, 10:47:10 PM
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Yeah its now trying to get the information out of the %appdata%/TrezarCoin Folder instead of the /Data folder next to the trezarcoin-qt.exe. So you need to copy everything which is inside of your /Data folder into the %appdata%/TrezarCoin Folder.
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You missed a couple of things in this explanation for Windows users. First is that the new TrezarCoin data folder is located under %appdata%\Roaming, not just %appdata%, and it is, of course, called TrezarCoin, rather than data. To speed things along, copy the existing data subdirectory to c:\users\<username>\appdata\Roaming\ and then rename it TrezarCoin BEFORE running the new wallet program.

Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning. For those who have not done this before it's fairly simple but you have to dig deep. First open Windows Defender (either via Settings or the up-arrow in the right side of the tray), then click on the "Virus & Threat Protection" shield, then scroll down and click on "Virus & Threat Protection Settings," then scroll down and click on "Add or remove exclusions" to add the file or folder you want to exclude from scanning. Practically speaking, you'll likely have to add your Downloads folder to the exclusion list as well, even though that almost entirely defeats the purpose of having anti-virus software in the first place. M$ fails yet again, is all I can say.

EDIT - I learned something new: "cd %appdata%" does, indeed, go to c:\users\<username>\appdata\roaming, and not just the appdata parent directory! So I struck out the incorrect text above.
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Yeah its now trying to get the information out of the %appdata%/TrezarCoin Folder instead of the /Data folder next to the trezarcoin-qt.exe. So you need to copy everything which is inside of your /Data folder into the %appdata%/TrezarCoin Folder.
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You missed a couple of things in this explanation for Windows users. First is that the new TrezarCoin data folder is located under %appdata%\Roaming, not just %appdata%, and it is, of course, called TrezarCoin, rather than data. To speed things along, copy the existing data subdirectory to c:\users\%username%\appdata\ and then rename it TrezarCoin BEFORE running the new wallet program.

Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning. For those who have not done this before it's fairly simple but you have to dig deep. First open Windows Defender (either via Settings or the up-arrow in the right side of the tray), then click on the "Virus & Threat Protection" shield, then scroll down and click on "Virus & Threat Protection Settings," then scroll down and click on "Add or remove exclusions" to add the file or folder you want to exclude from scanning. Practically speaking, you'll likely have to add your Downloads folder to the exclusion list as well, even though that almost entirely defeats the purpose of having anti-virus software in the first place. M$ fails yet again, is all I can say.



No its %appdata%/TrezarCoin, to be completely precise. Try it out and type %appdata% in your directory-search.

Thanks for explaining this with the Windows-Defender. - We have already improved the false-positives with virustotal, still WindowsDefender doesnt like it. - Virustotal shows 0/64.

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April 03, 2018, 10:20:54 AM
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You missed a couple of things in this explanation for Windows users...

Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning....

No its %appdata%/TrezarCoin, to be completely precise. Try it out and type %appdata% in your directory-search.

Thanks for explaining this with the Windows-Defender. - We have already improved the false-positives with virustotal, still WindowsDefender doesnt like it. - Virustotal shows 0/64.

Huh, in all my years I never once tried the command "cd %appdata%" but it does, indeed, change to c:\users\<username>\appdata\Roaming! I edited my post to correct my mistake.

As for Windows Defender, I have had to exclude all mining programs and most wallets from it over the last 2 months as every definition update seems to target mining more and more. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects this is because lots of mining rigs running Win10 don't bother activating it...  Roll Eyes

Speaking of the new wallet, I see it still displays the same cryptic data on staking (# of inputs, # of coin days, # inputs min age, etc) rather than provide a more human-friendly estimate of the time (or range of time) to receive a block reward from PoS. Are there any plans to change this behavior, because PoS is a core feature of TZC, yet it seems to be treated like the proverbial red-headed stepchild?

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You missed a couple of things in this explanation for Windows users...

Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning....

No its %appdata%/TrezarCoin, to be completely precise. Try it out and type %appdata% in your directory-search.

Thanks for explaining this with the Windows-Defender. - We have already improved the false-positives with virustotal, still WindowsDefender doesnt like it. - Virustotal shows 0/64.

Huh, in all my years I never once tried the command "cd %appdata%" but it does, indeed, change to c:\users\<username>\appdata\Roaming! I edited my post to correct my mistake.

As for Windows Defender, I have had to exclude all mining programs and most wallets from it over the last 2 months as every definition update seems to target mining more and more. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects this is because lots of mining rigs running Win10 don't bother activating it...  Roll Eyes

Speaking of the new wallet, I see it still displays the same cryptic data on staking (# of inputs, # of coin days, # inputs min age, etc) rather than provide a more human-friendly estimate of the time (or range of time) to receive a block reward from PoS. Are there any plans to change this behavior, because PoS is a core feature of TZC, yet it seems to be treated like the proverbial red-headed stepchild?


I support the request to change the staking output to a most common way of doing it, i.e. estimate of the time needed to hit next stake.
Also, I would suggest adding the false-positive check to the standard process of wallet upgrade as to reduce the confusion by at least issuing a warning on the subject at the time of wallet upgrade release, if not by adapting the code a bit to avoid triggering recognition.

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April 03, 2018, 05:00:32 PM
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You missed a couple of things in this explanation for Windows users...

Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning....

No its %appdata%/TrezarCoin, to be completely precise. Try it out and type %appdata% in your directory-search.

Thanks for explaining this with the Windows-Defender. - We have already improved the false-positives with virustotal, still WindowsDefender doesnt like it. - Virustotal shows 0/64.

Huh, in all my years I never once tried the command "cd %appdata%" but it does, indeed, change to c:\users\<username>\appdata\Roaming! I edited my post to correct my mistake.

As for Windows Defender, I have had to exclude all mining programs and most wallets from it over the last 2 months as every definition update seems to target mining more and more. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects this is because lots of mining rigs running Win10 don't bother activating it...  Roll Eyes

Speaking of the new wallet, I see it still displays the same cryptic data on staking (# of inputs, # of coin days, # inputs min age, etc) rather than provide a more human-friendly estimate of the time (or range of time) to receive a block reward from PoS. Are there any plans to change this behavior, because PoS is a core feature of TZC, yet it seems to be treated like the proverbial red-headed stepchild?



I will take a look into this display "issue", shouldnt take too much time. But I think I wont do a pre-release of 0.13 for this display "fix". So it should be included into the next mature release.

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April 03, 2018, 08:45:54 PM
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The more I study this project the more I like it. Tell me, pls how can I participate in this project without investing personal funds?


You have the usual options:

1) Invest
2) Mine
3) Join the community (Slack, Discord, etc.) and see how you can help out.

Since you seem to want to avoid investing funds, then you could try 2 & 3...
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April 03, 2018, 10:42:18 PM
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Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning....
Thanks for explaining this with the Windows-Defender. - We have already improved the false-positives with virustotal, still WindowsDefender doesnt like it. - Virustotal shows 0/64.
As for Windows Defender, I have had to exclude all mining programs and most wallets from it over the last 2 months as every definition update seems to target mining more and more. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects this is because lots of mining rigs running Win10 don't bother activating it...  Roll Eyes
I've never had an issue with Windows Defender and mining programs or wallets, and this TZC release didn't change that. Seems odd that it would vary from user to user Huh

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Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning....
Thanks for explaining this with the Windows-Defender. - We have already improved the false-positives with virustotal, still WindowsDefender doesnt like it. - Virustotal shows 0/64.
As for Windows Defender, I have had to exclude all mining programs and most wallets from it over the last 2 months as every definition update seems to target mining more and more. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects this is because lots of mining rigs running Win10 don't bother activating it...  Roll Eyes
I've never had an issue with Windows Defender and mining programs or wallets, and this TZC release didn't change that. Seems odd that it would vary from user to user Huh

Are you using Windows 7 or Windows 8.1/10? The Windows Defender in Windows 7 is not really an antivirus programme but a rather simple and not very effective anti-malware programme. If you are using Windows 10, are you sure you are using the latest version of Windows 10 and also whether you are using some other antivirus programme - an installation of almost any other antivirus programme will disable Windows Defender (which is good - one should not have two antivirus programmes running at the same time).

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Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning....
Thanks for explaining this with the Windows-Defender. - We have already improved the false-positives with virustotal, still WindowsDefender doesnt like it. - Virustotal shows 0/64.
As for Windows Defender, I have had to exclude all mining programs and most wallets from it over the last 2 months as every definition update seems to target mining more and more. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects this is because lots of mining rigs running Win10 don't bother activating it...  Roll Eyes
I've never had an issue with Windows Defender and mining programs or wallets, and this TZC release didn't change that. Seems odd that it would vary from user to user Huh

Are you using Windows 7 or Windows 8.1/10? The Windows Defender in Windows 7 is not really an antivirus programme but a rather simple and not very effective anti-malware programme. If you are using Windows 10, are you sure you are using the latest version of Windows 10 and also whether you are using some other antivirus programme - an installation of almost any other antivirus programme will disable Windows Defender (which is good - one should not have two antivirus programmes running at the same time).

As an example I have the wallet in several places, only some get detected by the windows defender & deleted. - Others never get touched, so its kinda strange, but yeah it still sucks. ( Win10 )


The more I study this project the more I like it. Tell me, pls how can I participate in this project without investing personal funds?


Trezarcoin has a Use case thats called "TrezarFundMe" you can PM me and set up a project you would like to do for TZC. -> https://trezarcoin.com/TrezarFundMe

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Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning....
Thanks for explaining this with the Windows-Defender. - We have already improved the false-positives with virustotal, still WindowsDefender doesnt like it. - Virustotal shows 0/64.
As for Windows Defender, I have had to exclude all mining programs and most wallets from it over the last 2 months as every definition update seems to target mining more and more. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects this is because lots of mining rigs running Win10 don't bother activating it...  Roll Eyes
I've never had an issue with Windows Defender and mining programs or wallets, and this TZC release didn't change that. Seems odd that it would vary from user to user Huh

Are you using Windows 7 or Windows 8.1/10? The Windows Defender in Windows 7 is not really an antivirus programme but a rather simple and not very effective anti-malware programme. If you are using Windows 10, are you sure you are using the latest version of Windows 10 and also whether you are using some other antivirus programme - an installation of almost any other antivirus programme will disable Windows Defender (which is good - one should not have two antivirus programmes running at the same time).
I'm running Windows 10 Home (legitimate and activated) with no other antivirus program. Defender is definitely active and I know it's up to date.

I've also used a computer that was running Win10 Pro and Webroot SecureAnywhere, but that only got rid of mining programs (though it ignored ccminer KlausT 8.15 for some reason).

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Second is that the new wallet is tagged as a trojan by Windows Defender (Fuery.a!cl) but this is almost certainly a false positive (or, I should say, it better be) so this file needs to be excluded from scanning....
Thanks for explaining this with the Windows-Defender. - We have already improved the false-positives with virustotal, still WindowsDefender doesnt like it. - Virustotal shows 0/64.
As for Windows Defender, I have had to exclude all mining programs and most wallets from it over the last 2 months as every definition update seems to target mining more and more. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects this is because lots of mining rigs running Win10 don't bother activating it...  Roll Eyes
I've never had an issue with Windows Defender and mining programs or wallets, and this TZC release didn't change that. Seems odd that it would vary from user to user Huh

Are you using Windows 7 or Windows 8.1/10? The Windows Defender in Windows 7 is not really an antivirus programme but a rather simple and not very effective anti-malware programme. If you are using Windows 10, are you sure you are using the latest version of Windows 10 and also whether you are using some other antivirus programme - an installation of almost any other antivirus programme will disable Windows Defender (which is good - one should not have two antivirus programmes running at the same time).
I'm running Windows 10 Home (legitimate and activated) with no other antivirus program. Defender is definitely active and I know it's up to date.

I've also used a computer that was running Win10 Pro and Webroot SecureAnywhere, but that only got rid of mining programs (though it ignored ccminer KlausT 8.15 for some reason).

OK, further options which might lead to this are:

1. The exact version of Windows 10 Home one is using (e.g., 1703, 1709). Even though Microsoft enforces Windows 10 version upgrades, these might fail to install - at the same time, the OS might still be getting all critical patches and, if this is the case, can be considered secure (for the time being). In almost any feature update of Windows 10, MS does some changes to the Windows Defender, for example:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/whats-new-windows-10-version-1709

2. Status of cloud-delivered protection of Windows Defender.
3. Any setup folder exclusions. It is enough to do it once and anything in that folder will never be scanned / reported.


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