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May 24, 2013, 03:57:44 PM
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a few days ago bfl posted a message on their forums saying they're finally starting to ship 'more' jalapeno units. lol
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May 24, 2013, 04:01:12 PM
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a few days ago bfl posted a message on their forums saying they're finally starting to ship 'more' jalapeno units. lol

Yeah they say lots of things. Its not about getting a unit for me, it is about denying them an order for their unacceptible business practices.

I would rather give my money to an ASIC seller that deserves to be funded. BFL does not.

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May 24, 2013, 04:08:49 PM
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Here's some fun stuff. They even claim that they'll soon have product on the shelf for immediate shipment...

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html We are expecting several thousand chips next week from our new packaging facility and expect to start shipping all product lines next week. Beyond that, we will be receiving thousands of chips per week at an ever increasing pace between now and until all of the remaining 68 wafers are used up. We have additional wafers on order and they should be ready about the time we've used up all 68 wafers should we need them. Soon after, we hope to have product on the shelf for immediate shipment, depending on how many orders come in between now and when we catch up the backlog.
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May 24, 2013, 04:26:31 PM
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We are expecting several thousand chips next week from our new packaging facility and expect to start shipping all product lines next week.

 How is this going to be any different than the thousands of chips they were supposed to receive last week ? The week prior ? The month prior ? Two months prior ?

 I find this very difficult to believe. Why would they fire their vocal customers when they are so imminently close to shipping (unless it was done for purely spiteful reasons; do you want to do business with a company like that ?)

 Something doesn't add up.
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May 24, 2013, 04:35:24 PM
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"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago.  What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/
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May 24, 2013, 05:52:05 PM
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"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago.  What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

Who knows, there is no reason to trust anything they say as they have only put out lie after lie about their shipping timetables.

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May 24, 2013, 10:04:31 PM
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"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago.  What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

I received my jally 5/23 (ordered 6/24/12) and Im a nobody.

so at least they are shipping to regular folks now.

be interesting to see how well they can keep it up.

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May 24, 2013, 10:10:08 PM
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May 25, 2013, 12:55:55 AM
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Don't worry....

I know where you can get new kit Really really cheap and they won't give a shit about what you say.....

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18533906357&ali_refid=a3_430009_1006:1104313814:6::fece26294d939db05b863e7a9b9e8adc&ali_trackid=1_fece26294d939db05b863e7a9b9e8adc


LOL anyone recognize the pictures......

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May 25, 2013, 04:34:10 AM
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"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago.  What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

I received my jally 5/23 (ordered 6/24/12) and Im a nobody.

so at least they are shipping to regular folks now.

be interesting to see how well they can keep it up.



Is there any chance you could be bothered to post a picture of your unit with a timestamp?

Just for those of us wearing tinfoil hats.
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May 25, 2013, 07:56:07 AM
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"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago.  What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

I received my jally 5/23 (ordered 6/24/12) and Im a nobody.

so at least they are shipping to regular folks now.

be interesting to see how well they can keep it up.



wow this is very much suprising, are they rly doing deliveries now?

But still only jalas^^

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May 25, 2013, 11:57:59 AM
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Don't worry....

I know where you can get new kit Really really cheap and they won't give a shit about what you say.....

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18533906357&ali_refid=a3_430009_1006:1104313814:6::fece26294d939db05b863e7a9b9e8adc&ali_trackid=1_fece26294d939db05b863e7a9b9e8adc


LOL anyone recognize the pictures......

If I could only read Chinese.

Yo!  Just file a small claims suit.  It's not that hard.

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May 25, 2013, 02:24:00 PM
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"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago.  What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

I received my jally 5/23 (ordered 6/24/12) and Im a nobody.

so at least they are shipping to regular folks now.

be interesting to see how well they can keep it up.



Is there any chance you could be bothered to post a picture of your unit with a timestamp?

Just for those of us wearing tinfoil hats.

sure. here ya go. sorry for pic qaulity,

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May 25, 2013, 02:48:53 PM
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Vapourminer, your pc days you're getting 5+ Gh/s, what's your mining pool say you're getting?  And how many BTC's per day are you getting?  Thanks!

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May 25, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
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Vapourminer, your pc days you're getting 5+ Gh/s, what's your mining pool say you're getting?  And how many BTC's per day are you getting?  Thanks!

I didnt check when it was running solo, it normally runs on my desktop along with a 6870 that gives around 300Mh/s. pool says 5.7 GH/s for that worker, so it tracks.

dunno how many btc just the jally gets, I run a bfl fpga (870 MH/s ave), 5830 (330 MH/s), the jally and a 6870 (300MH/s). pool says 0.242 btc in the last 24 hrs, but Ive turned it on and off a few times playing around with it
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Vapourminer, your pc days you're getting 5+ Gh/s, what's your mining pool say you're getting?  And how many BTC's per day are you getting?  Thanks!

LOL BTC a day.......
work it out Just over $25 a day maybe about 0.2 BTC, the days of getting a full BTC for <10GH/s are long gone......

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May 26, 2013, 01:26:37 AM
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Glad someone is actually receiving these things...even if they didn't ask for them?

Though these are just Jally's, I'm curious when we might see their successor the Single SC which is a different design. Their entire BitForce line is nowhere to be seen. 

Vapourminer did this thing ship with an actual UI software to use or is it just what you are showing here?

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May 26, 2013, 09:20:40 AM
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Atleast someone got a product..

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May 26, 2013, 10:18:54 AM
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Vapourminer did this thing ship with an actual UI software to use or is it just what you are showing here?

nope. no software, no instructions, no packing slip.

just the jally, a usb cable, and the power brick.

oh yeah and it also came a bfl coffee mug in the box.
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May 26, 2013, 01:21:07 PM
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Maybe consider filing an FTC complaint as well.

This may be of interest to you: http://business.ftc.gov/documents/alt051-selling-internet-prompt-delivery-rules

Complaint form: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

Interesting... I thought the Bitcoin community was rabidly antigovernment? Wink

But anyways, it's sounded like they've been giving refunds to anyone who's asked, haven't they? And those rules are for inventory that you have in stock - if you sell out due to great demand and can't arrange for more inventory within 30 days, you'd have to stop taking orders until you were reasonably sure that you could fulfill those orders in a timely (read, 30 day) manner.

BFL likely falls outside this - everyone ordering their products (myself included) were aware that they were pre-ordering a product that was not under production yet. Though their guidance about possible ship dates has pretty much sucked, they weren't misleading in that they were clear that they had no product to speak of at the time orders were placed. Our bad.

Now, if they weren't giving refunds, there'd be a real issue, but most of us are sitting tight to see if they do actually ship. Mainly because they're the ONLY ASIC game in town for people who want to run the machines out of their homes rather than just buying ASIC Miner shares.
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