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September 11, 2017, 02:46:34 AM
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Maybe because let's say I'm a criminal that has a lot of money from drugs then I would consider running a casino. Gambling and drugs are somehow connected to each other so it's possible.

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September 11, 2017, 02:57:07 AM
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I am curious about the casinos owner. they have so much to offer. I think they are more fair than any political party.


why do you say casinos owner are criminals i think not the owner or the casinos operators are not criminal, as my knowledge the casinos before operate the games around the world have a permit to operate as legit business in every nation.
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September 11, 2017, 03:15:10 AM
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Are you talking to a land base casino? if yes I would say no, they are not criminals since the casino needs permission from a goverment to run in a city and they not conmen too because players will not enter and gamble in their casino if it is true.
Yes exactly, I don't know why OP is having that question. It is pretty obvious that a big casino couldn't just keep running if it was illegal or was ran illegally by criminals. All the casinos require a permit by government, and if you see any casino running it means it's permitted by the government after doing all its checks.
It's completely other matter that criminals do gamble in these casinos but that's nothing the owner can do about.
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September 11, 2017, 03:59:19 AM
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I am curious about the casinos owner. they have so much to offer. I think they are more fair than any political party.


What a give us surprise for asking it.
Actually, i don't know about any casino's owner. But i know about my campaign, where i am working on Betcoin.ag and it is good campaign and also its owner very gentleman and honest, i am sure he will be.
But about the real casinos i have no idea. Because i am not going in real casinos.
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September 11, 2017, 04:25:45 AM
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At least they don't hide what they are doing and don't deceive others about what they are doing.

The worst criminals do the opposite.

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September 12, 2017, 09:24:37 AM
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I am curious about the casinos owner. they have so much to offer. I think they are more fair than any political party.


No, I don't think so. People that own casinos are just filling the demand for gambling! If they didn't supply it, someone else will for sure. It may feel outright a crime that they are earning so much from the gamblers but it is a fact gamblers must take in because they want to gamble and there is no way they could have gambled without these casino owners.
Then I would like to give you an adviser. Hope you don't mind taking it. Google this topic and think again. Most probably, you will learn the truth. Casinos are run by mafias and mobsters. I am not saying all of them but there are some that are owned by criminals.

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September 12, 2017, 09:46:49 AM
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I am curious about the casinos owner. they have so much to offer. I think they are more fair than any political party.


No, I don't think so. People that own casinos are just filling the demand for gambling! If they didn't supply it, someone else will for sure. It may feel outright a crime that they are earning so much from the gamblers but it is a fact gamblers must take in because they want to gamble and there is no way they could have gambled without these casino owners.
Then I would like to give you an adviser. Hope you don't mind taking it. Google this topic and think again. Most probably, you will learn the truth. Casinos are run by mafias and mobsters. I am not saying all of them but there are some that are owned by criminals.

Well initially gambling casino's were run by Mafia isn't it? Specially in the Las Vegas arena. That's far as the history of casino I know. However, I really do think that the latest casino's now are run by legitimate business owners. Or maybe they are just a front of mafia for all we know. I'm talking about landbased casino's here. But for online bitcoin games which just recently started, they are legitimate and no connection in the underwold in my opinion. Because this revolution was not started by the Mafia, but rather owners/investors who took advantage of bitcoin as mode of deposit and withdrawal for anyone to be able to gamble online.

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September 12, 2017, 12:10:49 PM
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No I do not think that all casino owners & managers are criminals. If you mean criminals in the sense that they might dodge or avoid paying the correct tax or something but not serious criminals no.

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September 12, 2017, 12:50:24 PM
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There are some casinos what take your money and disappear after some period of time,but most of them are cheating you,read link,you will see how it is done http://random.org/

But Ladybroker has been found guilty of money laundering and what nothing,becouse gambling is incredible business and bookies are sponsors of many events
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September 13, 2017, 09:16:28 AM
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In my opinion, they are not. It is with the players if they agree to the terms and conditions of the casino. That ToC includes agreeing to the house edge of the casino.
If you agreed to that and the casino does not employ any cheats then that will be a binding contract between the two. If you lose then that is on you and it is not
anyone's fault and no one is criminally liable.
We are not discussing that whether the terms or conditions make you a criminal or not. How can terms make anyone criminal? OP is just asking that are casinos RUN BY or OWN BY mobsters. Definitely, the casinos of Las Vegas are property of great mafias and gangster, if not all then most of them.

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September 13, 2017, 09:21:49 AM
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In my opinion, they are not. It is with the players if they agree to the terms and conditions of the casino. That ToC includes agreeing to the house edge of the casino.
If you agreed to that and the casino does not employ any cheats then that will be a binding contract between the two. If you lose then that is on you and it is not
anyone's fault and no one is criminally liable.
We are not discussing that whether the terms or conditions make you a criminal or not. How can terms make anyone criminal? OP is just asking that are casinos RUN BY or OWN BY mobsters. Definitely, the casinos of Las Vegas are property of great mafias and gangster, if not all then most of them.
Its always been backed by Big people which it cant really be easily closed by someone.You are right i do believe the same thing which those casinos might really be owned by those mafias or rich businessmen. As long they are doing fair games it wont really be a problem and all casino owners would really put anything that you wanted when it comes on what kind of games you do want to play.I cant say that they are much better on political personalities since they do have on different field.

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September 13, 2017, 10:12:20 AM
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i think they are only ordinary people which have big money and they want to make their finance increase so they make casinos and the casino is growth. i don't think that they are criminals, i think they are only want to make bigger their money because they know that people really like to play gambling so they make the casino.

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September 13, 2017, 10:18:52 AM
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i think they are only ordinary people which have big money and they want to make their finance increase so they make casinos and the casino is growth. i don't think that they are criminals, i think they are only want to make bigger their money because they know that people really like to play gambling so they make the casino.

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September 13, 2017, 10:22:53 AM
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Maybe because let's say I'm a criminal that has a lot of money from drugs then I would consider running a casino. Gambling and drugs are somehow connected to each other so it's possible.

Not always it can be connected. There are many owners who honestly pay taxes and do not deceive anyone. It is just necessary to understand that gambling is very risky and it is calculated to bring profit only to the owner, not to the players.

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September 13, 2017, 11:18:58 AM
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Casino owners are not crimimnals or conmen. That is why some countries approved and allows these to operate. However, on the other hand, casino really test the strength of the willpower of the individual. If you are unable to control yourself, you will end up lose everything.

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September 13, 2017, 06:54:47 PM
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Casino owners are not crimimnals or conmen. That is why some countries approved and allows these to operate. However, on the other hand, casino really test the strength of the willpower of the individual. If you are unable to control yourself, you will end up lose everything.

I agree as a matter of fact, some of the major casino are sponsored by the government.  Just like in my country most casino are regulated and others are simply owned by the government.  They get lots of money on that gaming and amusement stuff.  These institution even fund credited charity by the government so I guess owners of casino are not criminals or conmen probably the one that is illegally operating is owned by them.


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September 13, 2017, 08:07:54 PM
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I consider casino as just another lucrative business but there has been several example of bitcoin casino getting bankrupt because of poor mangement and unbalance expense on marketing. So not all casino owners can earn good amount of money and if they are running only provably fair games than they can't rig games to scam their users. Therefore I don't consider casino owners as criminals or conman, they are just a businessman who want to make as much profit as possible.

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September 13, 2017, 08:58:23 PM
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Anyone can open a bitcoin related casino, it's very easy due to the nature of bitcoin which offer a sort of anonymity. So the owner of a casino maybe a normal person like all of us (hopefully) here in the forum but can also be a criminal who have decided to launder some of his money so invest in opening a bitcoin casino. I personally prefer to think that the owners of the casino are normal people though.




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September 13, 2017, 09:18:40 PM
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I think that most of them are perfectly honest. Also, although many say that criminals do money laundry in casinos etc, is that really possible? I don't entirely understand how money laundry works, I only know what I saw in movies or TV shows like Narcos, but don't they need to eventually pass through a legal source in order to clean the money? How can they do it in bitcoin casinos, if they most of them probably don't even have a license?

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September 13, 2017, 09:27:55 PM
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As long as their casino are legit and not rigged at all, no way they could be branded as criminals. Before you start gambling on their casinos, you accept their terms, you know about all the risks. The casinos clearly reveals their house edge, that is their advantage. They have nothing hidden - and you deiced to gamble there even after knowing everything. So the casinos are not doing anything illegal to brand them as criminals.


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