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September 05, 2017, 11:55:07 AM |
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Icos are not dead. China may even act as role model to support having more structured Icos in the future. Currently everybody can just develop their own coins and can scam other people. So it will even required to get trust levels higher and with this also in the future bigger investors into the crypto market.
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September 05, 2017, 12:02:06 PM |
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ICOs dead or not, I think it wouldn't affect ETH for sure. ETH is already quite famous today, so if there is ICOs or not ETH will always remain in demand. Remember when ETH still newcomer, people said he's scam but he rise up.
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September 05, 2017, 12:05:53 PM |
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It is too early to mention just Eth. In last 2 days all coins,including btc, have been hit hard. Let's wait and see if Eth recovers at the same rate as the others.
Not all coins have been hit hard, look at Verge, it trippled its value.
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September 05, 2017, 12:08:58 PM |
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China may be a huge market in ICO community... But we cant deny the fact that as of now it is only China who did the ban. Of course it will be a different story if other countries would also follow what they did. All we can do right now is wait for what will be the further effect of this to cryptocurrency and pray that no other country would follow China on what they did.
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September 05, 2017, 12:13:19 PM |
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we all know that the only reason why ETH went up in first place is a combination of pumping and ICOs. now that China announced ICOs illegal and put and end to their existence a huge chunk of the investors in ICOs will go away and also people are going to be more afraid now that ICO is officially illegal. so they won't invest in any.
the ICOs so far will also probably cash out their ETH soon.
what will you think will be the future of Ethereum without ICOs to pump it? how low will it crash?
It is not a problem because as far as I know there is not one single ICO which is using the Etherium platform that is based in china. Not one that I know of. Or am I right? Anyway, there are still so many countries out there that are supporting ICOs and cryptocurrencies. There is also a larger audience waiting to be tapped.
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September 05, 2017, 12:57:22 PM |
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Maybe it is a good thing for the ETH ecosystem. Less backlog and congestion is expected in the following weeks.
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September 05, 2017, 01:03:14 PM |
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ICOs dead or not, I think it wouldn't affect ETH for sure. ETH is already quite famous today, so if there is ICOs or not ETH will always remain in demand. Remember when ETH still newcomer, people said he's scam but he rise up.
Exactly, China's intention is not to ban the ICO's but to protect the investors from the scams. If they form any legal regulation then people can easily invest into ICO without any problems. I don't see speculation for ETH because already ETH price is very strong in the market.
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September 05, 2017, 01:12:46 PM |
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ICOs dead or not, I think it wouldn't affect ETH for sure. ETH is already quite famous today, so if there is ICOs or not ETH will always remain in demand. Remember when ETH still newcomer, people said he's scam but he rise up.
Exactly, China's intention is not to ban the ICO's but to protect the investors from the scams. If they form any legal regulation then people can easily invest into ICO without any problems. I don't see speculation for ETH because already ETH price is very strong in the market. I would say its about: - Money lounderey - Investor protection - Tax collection - Control Yet as some guys already mentioned, Chinas ICOs wont be forbidden, just regulated.
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September 05, 2017, 01:14:57 PM Last edit: September 05, 2017, 01:28:00 PM by shyliar |
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The Eth price has been based primarily on ICOs followed by potential of smart contracts for businesses (including banks) and all the amazing DAPPS in development.
Governments are quickly closing the door on the ICO scam (the vast majority are scams). This is why in recent news China has completely closed the door, the US SEC has made announcements along with the Canadian government and Korea is in the process of making them illegal.
There isn't a single popular DAPP in existence. There never will be either because if one got popular the ETH network would slow down to a snail's pace permanently. If a single ICO can basically shut down the network imagine what a popular DAPP would do when being used 24/7. Any other DAPPS would need to become APPS on private servers.
Every news story you read about banks or businesses using Ethereum is referring to the Ethereum Platform as a package to develop private network blockchains. They aren't considering using the public token at all. Although, it's good for a pump to suck money out of the hands of novices.
Recently I've noticed people suggesting that ETH can also function as money. It's turing complete design makes it a poor choice as money. These folks should really read why bitcoin and so many other safe cryptocurrencies are not turing complete.
Basically any use cases for ETH the token seems to have disappeared. The Ethereum Platform might still have some use; but, token holders don't own a piece of that.
It's hard to predict price because so many investors make their choices based on nothing but feelings and not analytical thought (as some comments in this thread demonstrate). In the long run reality will kick in and the long term price likely will decline.
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September 05, 2017, 01:23:28 PM |
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honestly, just hold onto your eth. this is crypto afterall, we aint here for an easy ride.
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September 05, 2017, 01:33:24 PM |
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There nothing happens with ICOs. I'm not a huge expert on crypto trading, but only banning ICO, doesn't mean they can't trade crypto just can't participate in ICO. To my understanding, probably a good thing is waiting.
two things you not mention, one is new coins probably will not list on the exchange for a long time, and it will be a deadly strike to crypto. the other is more countries will follow China strategy as the regulation is necessary to a country
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September 05, 2017, 01:39:37 PM |
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Ethereum is one of the oldest coins and its success is not only because of ICOs. Ethereum is always one of best investments in cryptocurrencies for everyone. By the way, I don't think ICOs will be dead.
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September 05, 2017, 01:42:44 PM |
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we all know that the only reason why ETH went up in first place is a combination of pumping and ICOs. now that China announced ICOs illegal and put and end to their existence a huge chunk of the investors in ICOs will go away and also people are going to be more afraid now that ICO is officially illegal. so they won't invest in any.
the ICOs so far will also probably cash out their ETH soon.
what will you think will be the future of Ethereum without ICOs to pump it? how low will it crash?
I agreed about this how can be the future of ICO in this world if china makes the ICO illegal, the influence of china is so big that can make other country implemented what they implemented
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September 05, 2017, 01:45:19 PM |
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So why are you guys so fanatic with China. So what if China banned ICO? Total Market Cap now is $149,816,286,076. Is the $100billion market cap owned by Chinese? We have Japan, Korea, US and lots of new countries joining the crypto wagon. I tell you, Bitcoin do not need China. ICO can go without their country.
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September 05, 2017, 01:50:25 PM |
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It's good news that ICOs were banned. It will wipe out a lot of scammers. So, later we will have other kind of opportunities to fund and raise money.
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September 05, 2017, 02:13:54 PM |
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It's good news that ICOs were banned. It will wipe out a lot of scammers. So, later we will have other kind of opportunities to fund and raise money.
I think ICO not dead. just scam ICO dead. Gov will control ICO. and people must verify to list an ICO
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September 05, 2017, 02:34:05 PM |
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Who has killed ICO? China has forbid ICO-s for chinese companies. There are about 200 countries in the world and China is just one. Participating in ICOs of other contries is still not illegal for chinese people so ETH will live on and ICO-s will still happen. It's a panic drop, life goes on and ETH goes on.
I do not understand how there are so many who do not actually put their thought into acquiring information and just live on with assumptions that have nothing to do with reality... and the go on declaring this as the truth to the rest of the world and things start to live their own lives.
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September 05, 2017, 02:47:36 PM |
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It's good news that ICOs were banned. It will wipe out a lot of scammers. So, later we will have other kind of opportunities to fund and raise money.
I think ICO not dead. just scam ICO dead. Gov will control ICO. and people must verify to list an ICO that's how they wanted to make sure that they are still in control of their economy as people already earnings a lots of money out from crypto especially from those crypto currency so to make sure that not everyone got involves to this big market they needed to facilitate and make necessary actions.
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September 05, 2017, 03:08:51 PM |
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No, ETH dump cannot be justified by the decision that China took because the price didn't slip when US SEC decided the same thing to regulate these ICOs before allowing their citizens to take part. China has declared it completely illegal, it's their problem. But what if there are genuine projects which will really prove through their work? World is round and none in the world is unaware of Bitcoins now, we may set up a group of entities who, through their contacts in the world, will investigate more about the ICO that is being conducted, where it is being worked out, what is the purpose, etc. and may then decide whether to let people invest in them or not.
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September 05, 2017, 03:17:45 PM |
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Who has killed ICO? China has forbid ICO-s for chinese companies. There are about 200 countries in the world and China is just one. Participating in ICOs of other contries is still not illegal for chinese people so ETH will live on and ICO-s will still happen. It's a panic drop, life goes on and ETH goes on.
I do not understand how there are so many who do not actually put their thought into acquiring information and just live on with assumptions that have nothing to do with reality... and the go on declaring this as the truth to the rest of the world and things start to live their own lives.
You're right it's a real shocker that people would think that a country with 20 percent of the world's population can have any effect. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Additionally, the fact that other countries are moving towards regulations under security laws that will effectively shut down the majority of ICOs that can never meet the criteria is irrelevant too. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) You are definitely right about "there are so many who do not actually put their thought into acquiring information and just live on with assumptions that have nothing to do with reality". In this we completely agree.
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