Scammer grnlightnet / MoneyPakForBitcoins.Com

[darkmule]

Introduced in this thread and this thread.

I probably should have given it a little more time, but decided to take a gamble since I hadn't seen one of these sites offer $50 MPs before.  Sent to the address given with this transaction.  The transaction before that to the same address is by user bithanz, who purchased hours before me.

Considering it's the very day the site "opened" and the site simply pockets the BTC, never confirms receiving it, doesn't respond to email asking what's up, and most importantly, doesn't send the MP, it looks like this one is a scam right out of the gate.

[darkmule]

I probably should have checked the shady whois information first.


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Registrant:
MP For Bitcoins
John Doe
123 Main St
Orlando, FL 32771
US
Phone: +1.4071234567
Email: admin@grnlight.net



Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com

Domain Name: moneypakforbitcoins.com
Created on..............: 2013-05-21
Expires on..............: 2014-05-21

Administrative Contact:
MP For Bitcoins
John Doe
123 Main St
Orlando, FL 32771
US
Phone: +1.4071234567
Email: admin@grnlight.net


Technical Contact:
Registercom
Domain Registrar
12808 Gran Bay Pkwy
West Jacksonville, FL 32258
US
Phone: +1.9027492701
Email: domainregistrar@register.com


DNS Servers:
ns1.x10hosting.com
ns2.x10hosting.com



Visit AboutUs.org for more information about moneypakforbitcoins.com

AboutUs: moneypakforbitcoins.com

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

[Viceroy]

This is what you need:

http://grnlight.net/index.php/portfolio

Email him.

[Viceroy]

I hope this guy is not a scammer.

edit:
(changed emphasis)

[Viceroy]

How about you phone him, send him a letter or just turn up like the good ol' days

Always up for helping.

GrnLight
      Marc Hoover
      810 Osteen Cemetery Rd
      Deltona, FL 32738
      US
      Phone: +1.4073238852
      Email: admin@grnlight.co

just rings and rings

[Viceroy]

3 minutes, constant ringing... feels like the old days before vm...

(I have free air time)....

[Viceroy]

went to re-order signal at 3 minutes, trying again...

[Viceroy]

went to re-order after three minutes, trying again...

[Viceroy]

went to re-order again after three minutes, redialing...

[Viceroy]

Lives in a CHEAP house, http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/810-Osteen-Cemetery-Rd-Deltona-FL-32738/48030371_zpid/

[Mogumodz]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=120615

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111409

Anyone else notice the these two people have roughly the same Last Active time?

They were both online a few min ago.

I recon he used a dummy account maybe to transfer his own BTC as a trap for anyone else.

He's Online atm. Has he even contacted you about this?

*edit* just seen I put the same address, corrected now.

[Viceroy]

announcement 4 dash switch 85

verizon could not connect

[Mogumodz]

Lives in a CHEAP house, http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/810-Osteen-Cemetery-Rd-Deltona-FL-32738/48030371_zpid/

Looks like the kind of house that might have a few girls hidden in the basement. We might get a reward

[Viceroy]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111409

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111409

Anyone else notice the these two people have roughly the same Last Active time?

They were both online a few min ago.

I recon he used a dummy account maybe to transfer his own BTC as a trap for anyone else.

He's Online atm. Has he even contacted you about this?

I do see that the posters in that thread are mostly noobs.  The accused is a noob.  I will now take the time to point out to any and all that sending first to a noob is a stupid thing to do.  Even if that noob has a website.  I am not saying that to cast aspersions on anyone, I'm certain none of you meant any harm but for the sake of the community PLEASE DO NOT SEND FIRST to a noob under ANY circumstances.

[Viceroy]

This site, suspected to be the same as the accused, has disturbing anti authority sentiment and poor use of English.

To be fair, without admin help we cannot even connect that this "Marc" is the accused.  I do not want to spread any more FUD.






Phone not failing on re-order, now failing with message:
Announcement 4 dash switch 8 5
(done).

[Viceroy]

Nope, I take that back...
http://grnlight.net/index.php/news-site-information/29-donations-desperately-needed


Page reads:

DONATIONS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
 User Rating:  / 0
PoorBest
Category: News & Site Information
Published Date
Written by wildboy211

We have until the end of the month of March to pay the bills, im trying my hardest to come up with the most useful programming articles for anyone and everyone for free. But just because i give them away for free, doesnt mean it doesnt cost me anything.

Im asking anyone that has some spare bitcoin to donate it, and im willing to do this "Kickstarter" style, with benefits. The links use Mt.Gox, which is the largest bitcoin payment processor. I may add other links for other forms of payment later.

Other Payment Methods:
Bitcoin: 1CcfS9atFAReCaGeYvEwmuV1Ft6wvCGgPm
Dwolla: 812-576-3590
Dwolla Hubpage: https://www.dwolla.com/hub/812-576-3590
Liberty Reserve: U0102445
Flexcoin: 1LGV7XDpFrBEAas5oo8Fhik8x3ZXJCh2zK
Donate via secure credit card form: https://spb.io/gEnE8QrMUP
Amazon Payments:


The site also has several articles about jquery which is used to program websites, like the accused appears to have done.

[Mogumodz]

Nope, I take that back...
http://grnlight.net/index.php/news-site-information/29-donations-desperately-needed


Page reads:

DONATIONS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
 User Rating:  / 0
PoorBest
Category: News & Site Information
Published Date
Written by wildboy211

We have until the end of the month of March to pay the bills, im trying my hardest to come up with the most useful programming articles for anyone and everyone for free. But just because i give them away for free, doesnt mean it doesnt cost me anything.

Im asking anyone that has some spare bitcoin to donate it, and im willing to do this "Kickstarter" style, with benefits. The links use Mt.Gox, which is the largest bitcoin payment processor. I may add other links for other forms of payment later.

Other Payment Methods:
Bitcoin: 1CcfS9atFAReCaGeYvEwmuV1Ft6wvCGgPm
Dwolla: 812-576-3590
Dwolla Hubpage: https://www.dwolla.com/hub/812-576-3590
Liberty Reserve: U0102445
Flexcoin: 1LGV7XDpFrBEAas5oo8Fhik8x3ZXJCh2zK
Donate via secure credit card form: https://spb.io/gEnE8QrMUP
Amazon Payments:


The site also has several articles about jquery which is used to program websites, like the accused appears to have done.

Good spot, as far as I can see it is him or at least the same person who has set both sites up, he's used the same nameservers on both sites I have linked him too, which I suspect is a shared hosting account where you can simply use shared hosting by registering a domain and pointing the nameservers at ns1.x10hosting.com & ns1.x10hosting.com (looks like that is a free something or other).

[Mogumodz]

Instructions from his website hosting company are to email:  abuse@secureserver.net

And please given them all the details about how this website (MoneyPakForBitcoins.Com) on their network (Wild West Domains) stole your money.  Have them refer to this thread for additional information.

Please post that you emailed and post the response here for all.

(I did not lose money and so I cannot rightfully complain).

Did you miss the s off moneypakforbitcoin.com ? as that goes to Wild Wild West for me.
moneypakforbitcoins.com is registered to http://www.register.com

http://whois.net/whois/moneypakforbitcoin.com
http://whois.net/whois/moneypakforbitcoins.com

[Viceroy]

yep.

[Mogumodz]

yep.

Spun me out for a min then. Thought we had a new site.

[darkmule]

It's seeming like this guy might actually be stupid enough to scam under his own name, but he could still be a victim of identity theft, I suppose.

Whoever is the scammer is pretty stupid, scamming for $50.  Usually, even a scammer has the minimal IQ to come through on the early cheap orders before defaulting on a bigger one like a $500.  Whoever this is is a low-rent thieving punk.

[darkmule]

What the fuck is this bullshit?  This site blatantly stole money from anyone who tried to buy a MoneyPak.

The scammer who started it never even responded to defend himself.

Does anyone even actually get a fucking scammer tag from this stupid fucking forum, or are they just allowed to scam and scam again? 

Why the fuck does this guy not have a fucking scammer tag?

[Viceroy]

Agreed,  the accused deserves a scammer tag.

[John (John K.)]

I gave him a negative rating, but as for the scammer tag that'll need to wait for theymos to see this.

[John (John K.)]

What the fuck is this bullshit?  This site blatantly stole money from anyone who tried to buy a MoneyPak.

The scammer who started it never even responded to defend himself.

Does anyone even actually get a fucking scammer tag from this stupid fucking forum, or are they just allowed to scam and scam again? 

Why the fuck does this guy not have a fucking scammer tag?

Oh, and remember that the forum admins are not the nannies here. There's simply so much scams everywhere that the scammer tag usually comes late.

It's the same in the IRL - always caveat emptor.

[darkmule]

Oh, and remember that the forum admins are not the nannies here. There's simply so much scams everywhere that the scammer tag usually comes late.

It's the same in the IRL - always caveat emptor.

It pisses me off less because of the relatively insignificant sums involved than that this asshole can just run scam after scam from the same nick.  There's nothing whatsoever ambiguous about this.  The guy just stole money and waltzed off with it and hasn't even bothered defending himself.

[Bitcoin Scammer]

I will submit this punk into bitcoinscammers.com

[Viceroy]

clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap

mark saudibull, liberty and oldsport too (they scam in the currency exchange threads by using self moderated posts)

[buyer]

found him.  still scamming...

http://moneypakforbitcoins.com

website still up.  email address still showing.

[darkmule]

Scammer without scammer tag, scam threads still open.

Let this be an example.  The scammer tag idea is BULLSHIT.  Scammers are allowed to scam uninterrupted, when there's nothing ambiguous whatsoever about what they're doing.

This guy is just a pure thief, and the admins do DIDDLY FUCKING SQUAT.

[Viceroy]

I agree 100%.  The currency trading area, an area where scammers seem to multiply, needs more people actively managing scammer requests.  The accused scammer in this thread, and a dozen others like oldsport, are never held to account for their ACTUAL crimes against the citizens of this board.

In this case the scammer just left, never said a word.  His site is still up, though, and there is at least one post pointing to the very same site where the accused stole the funds.  The second page from the end in the btcpak announcement thread has the accused posting his site where he then proceeded to (apparently) steal actual money from people who used the service.  I will not link to that thread because the scammers post their has done enough damage to the community.  (perhaps a moderator could research the issue and remove the offending post?)

Allowing self moderated posts in the currency area by newbies and allowing accused scammers to walk around without tags is insulting to the citizens and makes the site owners and moderators accessories in an actual crime.

[guitarplinker]

Bump, I got scammed by him as well.

Proof: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ql2g5/scammer_alert_grnlightdotnet_always_use_escrow/

[fligen]

http://www.reddit.com/user/grnlightdotnet
http://www.reddit.com/user/irishfight (alt account)

Selling my USB ASIC Bitcoin Miner Block Erupter

"I am selling this, and my Raspberry Pi (which im pretty sure i already have a seller), to get a tablet. The miner comes with the case and is in excellent condition. Im in Deltona near 415. Asking $45. Asking $35"

http://www.reddit.com/r/orlando/comments/1n9g01/selling_my_usb_asic_bitcoin_miner_block_erupter/

http://www.grnlight.x10.mx/

[fligen]

http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/authors/ShowBio.asp?lngAuthorId=19583202318&lngWId=8

 From Orlando, FL.

http://www.reddit.com/r/orlando/comments/1n9g01/selling_my_usb_asic_bitcoin_miner_block_erupter/

[guitarplinker]

I believe I found his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/marc.hoover.10

As well as his Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/wildboy211/videos

[Viceroy]

I believe I found his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/marc.hoover.10

As well as his Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/wildboy211/videos

Dd you find his home address?  That's all that matters.

[Bitcoin Scammer]

Yup

I believe I found his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/marc.hoover.10

As well as his Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/wildboy211/videos

Dd you find his home address?  That's all that matters.