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December 08, 2010, 05:31:59 PM
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I have just received an email from echelon, that I2P will now accept donations in
Bitcoins!

I2P is an anonymizing network, offering a simple layer that identity-sensitive applications can use to securely communicate. All data is wrapped with several layers of encryption, and the network is both distributed and dynamic, with no trusted parties.

Many applications are available that interface with I2P, including mail, peer-peer, IRC chat, and others.
It is a lot faster than the freenet project.

http://www.i2p2.de

Please donate to:  1AZSQqSTSwSogJspcgjvzsrCvKmAsf42rT


I hope he will soon post a link on the I2P website.



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December 08, 2010, 06:06:51 PM
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Done!  I think charitable contributions are a great way to promote Bitcoin.  How could someone say no to accepting donations that way?  I can see why some merchants might be opposed to the idea of accepting Bitcoins at this point, due to fluctuating exchange rates and the relative difficulty of performing exchanges, but when you're getting something for nothing, who cares?

C'mon everyone, open up your wallets for I2P!

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December 08, 2010, 06:19:14 PM
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kewl,
i really like i2p, it's where i first heard about bitcoin!  Cheesy

i'll donate as soon as there's an address on the site.

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December 08, 2010, 06:58:52 PM
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Oh, nice! I love I2P! Cheesy
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December 08, 2010, 07:30:03 PM
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+1 donated

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December 08, 2010, 08:35:33 PM
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I can't see any source for the adress you've given is the real adress of I2P.

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December 08, 2010, 09:38:49 PM
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If you have any doubts - then wait with your donations until echelon has put the address on
the i2p website.
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December 08, 2010, 09:44:06 PM
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I will.

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December 08, 2010, 10:04:33 PM
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If you have any doubts - then wait with your donations until echelon has put the address on
the i2p website.

That's what I've been doing.. patiently waiting... Tongue I assumed everyone else would do that too.
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December 09, 2010, 05:11:52 PM
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I directly emailed echelon, and he gives a different bitcoin address than "Max Stirner" at the top of the thread:

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I2P does accept bitcoin on 1JHJYGshG8Ds9XXHbXuTrDkf8XAXzNhi5c for the
I2P project.
Due to some other jobs I did not updated the webpage yet. Will be done
this weekend.

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December 09, 2010, 05:58:44 PM
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So who did I donate to?  The Max Stirner Foundation?  Cheesy

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December 09, 2010, 06:06:14 PM
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I directly emailed echelon, and he gives a different bitcoin address than "Max Stirner" at the top of the thread:

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I2P does accept bitcoin on 1JHJYGshG8Ds9XXHbXuTrDkf8XAXzNhi5c for the
I2P project.
Due to some other jobs I did not updated the webpage yet. Will be done
this weekend.

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The bitcoin client generates a new bitcoin address every time a donation is recieved to an old one (to make spying on peoples finances with the block chain more difficult). I have 2, my starting one and the one that was generated after I got my faucet bitcoins. So if echelon reopened his bitcoin client when he sent the email he would have sent a different address.
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December 09, 2010, 06:31:01 PM
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This will be great news once it is confirmed on their official website.
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December 11, 2010, 01:42:26 AM
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I was browsing I2P today when I stumbled upon this:

From http://echelon.i2p.to/ (aka "echelon.i2p" from within the I2P network):

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2011-12-10
Added bitcoin to the list of way donating something to the I2P project.
Use the ID 1JHJYGshG8Ds9XXHbXuTrDkf8XAXzNhi5c to transmit your bitcoin to.

Edit: 2011? Man, this guy is from the future or something! Tongue
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December 12, 2010, 08:10:28 AM
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The bitcoin client generates a new bitcoin address every time a donation is recieved to an old one (to make spying on peoples finances with the block chain more difficult). I have 2, my starting one and the one that was generated after I got my faucet bitcoins. So if echelon reopened his bitcoin client when he sent the email he would have sent a different address.

no it doesn't. you can receive on a single address multiple times.

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December 12, 2010, 08:11:01 AM
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So who did I donate to?  The Max Stirner Foundation?  Cheesy
haha, seems like it....

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December 12, 2010, 09:22:53 AM
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The bitcoin client generates a new bitcoin address every time a donation is recieved to an old one...

no it doesn't. you can receive on a single address multiple times.

I think ptd is referring to the way the contents of the "Your bitcoin address" field changes automatically after you receive on the old address.
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December 12, 2010, 05:55:11 PM
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no it doesn't. you can receive on a single address multiple times.

The keyword is 'can'. If a donation is sent to an address is effectively marked used and a new one is generated. So echelon's client would generate a new address because money had been sent the old one. This feature exists to improve anonymity.
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December 12, 2010, 06:05:18 PM
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This feature exists to improve anonymity.
this feature exists.
you might use it to improve anonymity.

but you can also use a single donation-address for the rest of your (or your projects) lifetime,
why not? people know, who they're donating to anyway, don't they?
and it even prooves to everyone how much donations have been received by that address/project, which might be good or bad, depending on who you ask/are.

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December 12, 2010, 06:06:42 PM
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I actually do see a bitcoin address on the I2p webpage.


This is good news.  I'll give 1 BTC.
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December 12, 2010, 06:10:37 PM
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An address seems to have been posted on the i2p site:
http://www.i2p2.de/donate.html

Unfortunately... it is neither of the two addresses posted so far...
I hope the situation with "max stirner" is resolved - hopefully he's legit and will forward the donation to the i2p project...

otherwise... i guess we can let that be a lesson that a donation address is not a valid address until posted on the official project site...

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December 12, 2010, 06:41:48 PM
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I wouldn't think that any thief would expose himself like that for the sake of a few free bitcoins. In my opinion what probably happened was echelon was testing his client and transferred a few coins back and forth to see how this works - creating new address each time. Then he just put the newest address he got on the website.
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December 12, 2010, 07:50:35 PM
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Hi!

First: SORRY for all problems.
I just did not know the fact of different IDs generated by bitcoin pointing to my account
I just clicked "copy ID to clipboard" and entered that one in my contacts.
Current state is 200 coins - I guess all arrived here so far. I just know I mentioned at 3 different IDs.
On 1AZSQqST...  I received 44 coins.
On 1JHYGshG8... I received 106,27 coins
On 1HkJCceXf... I received 56 coins yet and 100 witing to be acked.

I will now only publish the ID 1HkJCceXf7of1sTNRVJbXiZHfDTLL71Siy in all mails, forum, webpages I use.
I even changed it on echelon.i2p.

Sorry again for all the problems, tricked by the technical department.
and I hope this clarifies some fuzzle.

eche|on

P.S.: yeah, I dated some entries to far in future ;-) changed, to.
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December 12, 2010, 07:54:15 PM
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I will now only publish the ID 1HkJCceXf7of1sTNRVJbXiZHfDTLL71Siy in all mails, forum, webpages I use.
I even changed it on echelon.i2p.

Please notice that if you want to use a different address for each donation, you can.

A small CGI script can do the trick.  See there :
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1796.0
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I will now only publish the ID 1HkJCceXf7of1sTNRVJbXiZHfDTLL71Siy in all mails, forum, webpages I use.
I even changed it on echelon.i2p.

Please notice that if you want to use a different address for each donation, you can.

A small CGI script can do the trick.  See there :
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1796.0

That generates a new address for new CGI script invocation (== each page view).

An attacker, or just a popular web page, could fill your wallet with never-used addresses.

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That generates a new address for new CGI script invocation (== each page view).

An attacker, or just a popular web page, could fill your wallet with never-used addresses.

Well, a new address would only be generated on each visit of the "donate" page, not the main page.  I don't think it would be that much space consuming on disk.

Also, is there any other way to prevent public to know how much have been donated ?
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December 12, 2010, 09:54:05 PM
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That generates a new address for new CGI script invocation (== each page view).

An attacker, or just a popular web page, could fill your wallet with never-used addresses.
Well, a new address would only be generated on each visit of the "donate" page, not the main page.  I don't think it would be that much space consuming on disk.

Also, is there any other way to prevent public to know how much have been donated ?

getaccountaddress is designed for exactly this kind of thing-- it will return the same address over and over, until it gets used (until somebody donates).  After that, it returns a different address...

Of course, if "the public" is grabbing the donation address off your "Donate to Us" page, they could generate a list of donation addresses, add up the donations received on all those addresses, and figure it out.  Depending on how many donations you're getting that might be easy (scrape the page once per day) or hard (if you're getting dozens of donations per day).

You could make it much harder for anybody to figure out how much you're getting in donations by randomly donating to yourself (using the same address returned by getaccountaddress), preferably from a wallet shared by lots of other people (like a MyBitcoin or Mt.Gox account)... 


How often do you get the chance to work on a potentially world-changing project?
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December 12, 2010, 10:49:31 PM
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Of course, if "the public" is grabbing the donation address off your "Donate to Us" page, they could generate a list of donation addresses, add up the donations received on all those addresses, and figure it out.


Well, if a CGI script generates a new address (or account number ?) for each visit, there is no way the public could make a list of used address, could it ?  I mean, each address would be visible by the donator and by the donator only, right ?
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December 12, 2010, 11:59:15 PM
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I am just promoting Bitcoin and I have not enriched myself in any way.


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I am just promoting Bitcoin and I have not enriched myself in any way.

Max

no worries amigo - we already know from an upstream post. Smiley

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