[LTC] Litecoin Core Development Fundraising

[prophetx]

I will donate about 12 LTC when I get home tomorrow minus the 3+ ltc tx fee from all of my p2pool mining dust this month

I hope at some point something is worked out to help with wallet dust consolidation in the coming releases

https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,3000.0.html
Read this thread to learn how to combine your dust into larger coins with zero fee.  I don't recommend the "Dust Settler" that the guy is trying to sell in that thread as it is new and nobody audited it.

You may also want to wait until the new lower fee kicks in, which might be in a few weeks.  I will post soon the fee transition plan.

Yea I read through that thread a couple days ago, doesn't work for me.

Anyway donated 8.7 ltc + 3.2 ltc in tx fees 

hope this gets addressed for the sake of p2pool

http://ltc.block-explorer.com/tx/8ab37f4eff11a706cef383e54e183d154d8f8a9bc31788c51e7fcc0de62cd0b9

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[cdog]

Sent some LTC. Everyone should donate a minimum of .1% of all your LTC.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

This thread is stickied? Why? Will every alt coin get a sticky if they make a development fundraising request? If not, why is a moderator deciding which coin who they may have a personal stake in is "worthy" of having a sticky?

I actually hold LTC.

Repost.

[Brunic]

This thread is stickied? Why? Will every alt coin get a sticky if they make a development fundraising request? If not, why is a moderator deciding which coin who they may have a personal stake in is "worthy" of having a sticky?

I actually hold LTC.

Repost.

What's the big deal? It's not like we're talking about Jokecoin or Funnycoin. It's about the clear #1 alt-coin with a network comparable to what Bitcoin had in 2012.

[RandyMagnum]

This gets me more excited about the future of LTC than any news about Gox trading it.  Gox trading it is like saying, "Yeah, there will be at least a short-term boom on price."  This, however, gets me to look beyond making a quick buck.

[relm9]

This thread is stickied? Why? Will every alt coin get a sticky if they make a development fundraising request? If not, why is a moderator deciding which coin who they may have a personal stake in is "worthy" of having a sticky?

I actually hold LTC.

Repost.

Seems reasonable to me, LTC is far and away the biggest alt coin, why would it not get special treatment?

Beyond that... there's way too much junk in this section of the forum, and I'm sure 99% of visitors here have an interest in LTC, so it makes sense to sticky it.

You are making yourself look real silly by complaining about this.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

This thread is stickied? Why? Will every alt coin get a sticky if they make a development fundraising request? If not, why is a moderator deciding which coin who they may have a personal stake in is "worthy" of having a sticky?

I actually hold LTC.

Repost.

Seems reasonable to me, LTC is far and away the biggest alt coin, why would it not get special treatment?

Beyond that... there's way too much junk in this section of the forum, and I'm sure 99% of visitors here have an interest in LTC, so it makes sense to sticky it.

You are making yourself look real silly by complaining about this.

By complaining about preferential treatment? Whoever stickied this is endorsing Litecoin and the current group of developers, which definitely shouldn't be the position a moderator should take. Same thing as the BitInstant sticky in the newbie section a while ago.

How would you feel if a mod stickied "Bitcoin isn't a bubble! It'll grow to $500" in the speculation section, or stickied ASICMINER in the securities section? Even if the moderator did not make the topic, it is still an endorsement. I'm also willing to bet that less than half of the members here (this forum, not this thread obviously) cares about LTC.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

What's the big deal? It's not like we're talking about Jokecoin or Funnycoin. It's about the clear #1 alt-coin with a network comparable to what Bitcoin had in 2012.

So what? Do you see a sticky for ASICMINER in the securities section? A sticky for Casascius's coin auction in the auction section? A sticky for FastCash4Bitcoins in the Currency Exchanges section? Etc etc etc.

Popularity or being #1 doesn't come into this. You can make the argument that more people care about something than others, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to sticky it. For example, pretty much every miner cares about BFL even if they have no orders with them (because them shipping will impact the network difficulty significantly), however you should look at what threads are stickied in Mining / Custom Hardware.

It's not the job of the moderation team to curate content that they possibly have a commercial interest in doing so, it's the job of the moderation team to moderate. This is a clear line that has being stepped over.

Oh, and before you think I'm saying this because I support something else, I hold a significant sum of litecoins.

[wtogami]

TradeFortress has a reasonable argument here.  This thread does not need to be stickied to be successful as Litecoin can win on its own merits.

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[jubalix]

They sticky info like releases candidates and forks in ALTS......for alts......don't they....?

where do you think the line should be drawn???


Also when LTC was released how much mine was there how many coins in the first few weeks? etc

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

They sticky info like releases candidates and forks in ALTS......for alts......don't they....?

where do you think the line should be drawn???


Also when LTC was released how much mine was there how many coins in the first few weeks? etc

Stickies about forks have a clear deadline, are applied to every coin, and is not an endorsement. This fundraising is commercial.

It's one story if the same policies are applied to every coin.

I'm surprised that you can't see the obvious line.

[jubalix]

They sticky info like releases candidates and forks in ALTS......for alts......don't they....?

where do you think the line should be drawn???


Also when LTC was released how much mine was there how many coins in the first few weeks? etc

Stickies about forks have a clear deadline, are applied to every coin, and is not an endorsement. This fundraising is commercial.

It's one story if the same policies are applied to every coin.

I'm surprised that you can't see the obvious line.

I guess I never really thought about so was interested in your view...especially as I am not sure of the stated, or unstated modus operandi of the BTC forum in relation to these sort of issues?

on one hand development leads to the forks/rc's, and development could lead to a fork, so they seem to inter mesh.

the issue of a clear deadline would need to be set.

I guess I feel that a call to develop for CC's is good, in general,

I can appreciate where you are coming from in specific, as would appear to preference on alt above another rather than let it survive on its merits.

How would you feel about say a mod sticky call from BTC dev for fundraising in this forum, would that be legit?

[crazy_rabbit]

They sticky info like releases candidates and forks in ALTS......for alts......don't they....?

where do you think the line should be drawn???


Also when LTC was released how much mine was there how many coins in the first few weeks? etc

Stickies about forks have a clear deadline, are applied to every coin, and is not an endorsement. This fundraising is commercial.

It's one story if the same policies are applied to every coin.

I'm surprised that you can't see the obvious line.

Tradefortress has a good point.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

I guess I never really thought about so was interested in your view...especially as I am not sure of the stated, or unstated modus operandi of the BTC forum in relation to these sort of issues?

on one hand development leads to the forks/rc's, and development could lead to a fork, so they seem to inter mesh.

Not sure were you are going? They do lead to each other, but are you saying it is important because it is an announcement of a potential announcement that is more likely to occur?

the issue of a clear deadline would need to be set.

I guess I feel that a call to develop for CC's is good, in general,

Definitely, but particular examples should not be endorsed officially when it is given special treatment.

I can appreciate where you are coming from in specific, as would appear to preference on alt above another rather than let it survive on its merits.

Yeah.

How would you feel about say a mod sticky call from BTC dev for fundraising in this forum, would that be legit?

Assuming you mean the Bitcoin forums (and not literally this forum / Alt Crypto which would be offtopic), then that is fundamentally different. In Alt Cryptocurrencies, it's a shared space where different coins compete with each other. Same thing with the marketplace. However, in the Satoshi client Bitcoin boards, where development for Bitcoind/Bitcoin-qt is not competing with anything else, then there's not much of a problem. It becomes more noncommercial. But say, an Electrum fundraiser NOT in it's own subforum would be competing with the other clients -- same thing we have now.

[coblee]

Thanks to everyone for donating! I'm glad to see so much support for Litecoin.
We will definitely put the funds to good use.

[coblee]

Kind of silly to argue about whether or not this thread should be stickied. The mining pools thread used to sticky threads for the top 10 pools. I guess this is not much different.
I guess the mods feel like this is an important thread to the Alternate cryptocurrencies subforum. And that's all there is to it.

Since more than half of the cryptocurrencies is cloned from Litecoin, they can all benefit from us working on Litecoin... similar to how Litecoin benefits from all the hard work the Bitcoin devs have put in.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is we should spend less time arguing for the sake of arguing... and just donate!

[jubalix]

I guess I never really thought about so was interested in your view...especially as I am not sure of the stated, or unstated modus operandi of the BTC forum in relation to these sort of issues?

on one hand development leads to the forks/rc's, and development could lead to a fork, so they seem to inter mesh.

Not sure were you are going? They do lead to each other, but are you saying it is important because it is an announcement of a potential announcement that is more likely to occur?


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Yeah just exploring how they merge into each other...releases come from dev work....so it seems they are kinda inta related I think raising coins for dev is ok....maybe ok for sticky maybe not, but there is a general clutter issue in alts.

on tangent to another point you raise, it's sorta interesting that clients get their own child boards. I think alts need a child board for launches/info on coins.

I am not sure why mod's are so opposed to this.

I also think Coblee raises some legit points, LTC is the backbone of many alts, and so its hard to argue that LTC dev will not benefit all alts.

I also can not see anything close in the alts (except PPC) to the DEV organization and team for LTC. Eg Sunny king is probably the next or best dev TRC are probably next but who are they even, and they go rouge on each other, WDC 2 apparently???

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Kind of silly to argue about whether or not this thread should be stickied. The mining pools thread used to sticky threads for the top 10 pools. I guess this is not much different.
I guess the mods feel like this is an important thread to the Alternate cryptocurrencies subforum. And that's all there is to it.

Since more than half of the cryptocurrencies is cloned from Litecoin, they can all benefit from us working on Litecoin... similar to how Litecoin benefits from all the hard work the Bitcoin devs have put in.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is we should spend less time arguing for the sake of arguing... and just donate!

Litecoin was a clone of another coin. I think it's distasteful to use that as an argument, and ending the post with "just donate". Regarding your mining pools example: that is a policy, not something on a whim.

The moderators may feel this as an "important thread", however I disagree on that it should be stickied because it is a commercial endorsement. Someone is benefiting from this thread being stickied at the determent of other groups, compared to other important announcements (eg forks) where someone is benefiting but nobody is having a commercial disadvantage.

[ictin]

Well, as soon as my first payout from the pool is coming, i will donate 1 day worth of mining. Is not much, only 1 LTC, but if everybody will donate 1 day of mining to the project, then i think that the developers will have enough to get it going.

Regarding TradeFortress arguments, i think i am already familiar with the way is thinking (but is not the only one, most of the guys who made good money mining bitcoin have the same attitude): the developers should get nothing, they should "donate" their time to the project to make other people rich, and if is possible they should also invest some of their own money to get the project going. This is the biggest problem of the crypto currency now, but maybe in time, this will issue will be resolved.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Yeah just exploring how they merge into each other...releases come from dev work....so it seems they are kinda inta related I think raising coins for dev is ok....maybe ok for sticky maybe not, but there is a general clutter issue in alts.

on tangent to another point you raise, it's sorta interesting that clients get their own child boards. I think alts need a child board for launches/info on coins.

I am not sure why mod's are so opposed to this.

I also think Coblee raises some legit points, LTC is the backbone of many alts, and so its hard to argue that LTC dev will not benefit all alts.

I also can not see anything close in the alts (except PPC) to the DEV organization and team for LTC. Eg Sunny king is probably the next or best dev TRC are probably next but who are they even, and they go rouge on each other, WDC 2 apparently???

Tenebrix is the backbone of every Litecoin alt. Bitcoin is the backbone of pretty much every alt, including Tenebrix and Litecoin. Litecoin is nothing more than a number of variable changes, seriously.

It is a good thing we don't have subforums for each coin, because it's a waste of time and just look at the current flood of alt coins. But that is a separate matter, please don't go offtopic