Philip Hammond and Theresa May abandon plan to stay in EU

[flyhighwithme121]

Wasn't sure if it was best to necro an old brexit thread or start a new one, but it's kind of a big development, so let's start fresh.

Brexit: Chancellor Philip Hammond announces Britain will quit EU single market

At least on the plus side they've dropped their asinine "have our cake and eat it" approach, which was clearly never going to fly.  If it has to happen, I suppose it's better being realistic about it, even if it means the Tories have to breach yet another one of 2015 manifesto pledges.  I'm still not convinced the average person in the UK will see an improvement in their standards of living as a result.  Particularly considering it has the potential to make things worse in that regard. 

People seem to naturally assume that all of Europe's regulations are bad for the average person.  But, if anything, this will result in the type of deregulation that mainly benefits big business and makes things worse for the average person.  Expect corners to be drastically cut on things like consumer protections, employment rights and even your civil and human rights.  Plus they've already admitted that immigration won't see much, if any, reduction if that's something you care about.  Plus we'll probably end up with TTIP, or something even worse, when we start getting desperate the clinch a trade deal with anyone who will listen.

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[Masha Sha]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing this topic.

The UK will be fine, even finer when reason over the plants issue is regained.

The others continental european people continues their march toward germans ruling every aspects of their lives...

Where is my diesel, mein fuhrer?

[iluvpie60]

Wasn't sure if it was best to necro an old brexit thread or start a new one, but it's kind of a big development, so let's start fresh.

Brexit: Chancellor Philip Hammond announces Britain will quit EU single market

At least on the plus side they've dropped their asinine "have our cake and eat it" approach, which was clearly never going to fly.  If it has to happen, I suppose it's better being realistic about it, even if it means the Tories have to breach yet another one of 2015 manifesto pledges.  I'm still not convinced the average person in the UK will see an improvement in their standards of living as a result.  Particularly considering it has the potential to make things worse in that regard. 

People seem to naturally assume that all of Europe's regulations are bad for the average person.  But, if anything, this will result in the type of deregulation that mainly benefits big business and makes things worse for the average person.  Expect corners to be drastically cut on things like consumer protections, employment rights and even your civil and human rights.  Plus they've already admitted that immigration won't see much, if any, reduction if that's something you care about.  Plus we'll probably end up with TTIP, or something even worse, when we start getting desperate the clinch a trade deal with anyone who will listen.

I will never understand why Europeans want to constantly controll eachother.

So Germany and Brussels just get to run the show?

The President of the EU was elected by beuocrats, who also were not elected by any voters. The whole EU is literally the Trade Federation  + Techno Union from Star Wars, you know, those aliens who were from the banking clan who produced all those droids...

How can people not see that? It is completely 100% soft authoritarianism. Rules are imposed on your countries by people who weren't elected, by a President who wasn't elected, and by Central Banks.

Does anyone see anything wrong with that? HELLO!!! Isn't that the EXACTthing Occupy Wallstreet stood against? Having Banking Clans coupled with Crony politicians who can't be voted out???

Good grief.

[Masha Sha]

Very true! Look at the court of so called justice forcing all states to follow the plans of the fuhrers about third world invasion... destroying the sovereignity of millenial nations in an edict.

The only way to speak with those "germans" is by answering: ja mein fuhrer, and kill them when their plans will collpase... they always do.

They are indoctrinated beyond beliefs... maybe even norks are more questioning...

Fuck the eu! Where plants are illegals! God bless the usa!

[yoseph]

The EU had been imposing their rules which i will say is the things that Angela Merkel wants on the whole continent of Europe, The UK has survived long before the EU and will continue to do so, some countries took opportunity of the EU and i will say that the United Kingdom were never a beneficiary.

[Masha Sha]

I hope the uk will be strong enough to not pay the ransom money that the fuhrers want to use to rape eastern girls in their diesel pulluting cars.

[popcorn1]

The EU had been imposing their rules which i will say is the things that Angela Merkel wants on the whole continent of Europe, The UK has survived long before the EU and will continue to do so, some countries took opportunity of the EU and i will say that the United Kingdom were never a beneficiary.

EU and i will say that the United Kingdom were never a beneficiary.

Lets get some facts about what we give to the EU and the world ..

We spend 2% of our GDP on weapons to protect the EU 0.8% more than Germany ..
We give 10 billion yes i say it again 10 billion to the EU only to get 5 billion back and told how we can spend this 5 billion..
Oh and if you think it's fair then give me your wages and i will give half your money back and by the
way you must spend it how i tell you ..

Now also we spend 13 billion and AID to nation i know nothing about..
Now you can say well Britain has went around the world and stole enough BUT it was the
Kings and QUEENS of our nation and their cronies who made this money the poor people of the UK
was used as slaves for the rich as well as blacks ..

They would pay us in food to do things for the rich ..
MANIPULATION it's called to use the poor and pay them food or a pittance to survive and the rich knew this fact as they still do today..

So now this is what we give away and we need police hospitals nurses doctors all a shortage in the UK..
So basically we are suffering because we pay this much..

2% Gdp on weapons United Kingdom/Gross domestic product 2.619 trillion USD (2016)..
13 Billion to aid for other countries ..
5 Billion to the EU ..

So i thinks every year the UK gives 30 BILLION every year away and the UK will never ever see
that money again..

Now i thinks someone in our land the UK is getting money back into their bank accounts and we thinks it's going on aid..

Basically the BRITISH people have been getting used for so long it's hurting my brains ..
Oh and it's the poor as always that suffer..

So can you tell me what country the size of the UK that gives so much away for NOTHING ..

[popcorn1]

EU and i will say that the United Kingdom were never a beneficiary..
Oh i forgot the mention the whole point of your post  ..

If we are not any use WHY do you want us to stay so much? ..

Because you was getting so much and using us as your cash cows..
Well FUCK OFF ..

And greedy bastard tony blair wanted to become one of the presidents to rule like a TWAT ..
Because that is what that man is a TWAT..<A greedy one

we the UK voted OUT and we want out..

And soon your all going to realise in the EU what benefits we British brought to the table ..

Now we asked for no free movement in our land because every one wants to come to the UK
because most can speak ENGLISH around the world ..

So no learning a new lingo and our country cannot cope with the amount of people because our public services homes are over run and under funded ..

You countries around the EU have a choice you can give us free trade meaning no tariffs what so ever no paying peter for nothing to do trade..
So you can trade with us for free or we will use our money and buy off another country outside of the EU..

Now just think if we don't trade with your ASSES your country looses money and another country gets lifted up by our trade deals..

So use a chart do you want to go UP or DOWN in money? ..

And the main point is because someone you know nothing about is telling you not to trade or you will get PUNISHED by the EU..

To the EU use those words again please your going to punish the UK ...OH SAY IT PLEASE .

Believe me we have wars we are coming for the EU gangsters ..
And we will see what we do to your families..

The more i watch the more i hate the EU I HATE YOU LOT ..

Remember not the people of EUROPE the EU gangster money grabbing political gangsters ..
They don't care for you and i only for their money and power..

But we British want to tell you all to fuck off no more paying you money for being in a so called EU
free trade when really we have to pay 10 BILLION for so called free trade..

Actually not so free after all ..We give them our laws and our money to un elected politicians
i know nothing about AND don't want to know nothing about..

So to the EU
GET OUT OF MY FUCKING FACE  ..

I want to build a better Britain than the EU could ever build ..
How can they build anything when if you look around our communities all around the EU
they have destroyed them..

How you ask..
Imagine i own an electric company i don't care who suffers in that area were my electric gets used all i care about is a circle of people going around and around using my electric..
And the same can go for transport broadband rents shop lets ..

Now if i say just keep letting people go in the ones that don't survive get moved on and the next come along to use the electric broadband and so on..

A circle of humans who feed their companies ..
That means they don't care if mary has a child and got no room for schools hospital beds homes and what not they just want the CIRCLE of humans using the elites products ..

So no care in the community anymore because you don't know your community ..
Because so many are coming in and out of our country it's unreal ..

Some make it some don't but always that city is jam packed with humans to use the circle of human money ..

Richard Branson lives on a Island owns  broadband virgin trains airways so his business depends on people using his products and what i mean is they are unavoidable products that people need to use..
So he like to remain in the EU and guess why because it makes him FILTHY RICH..

Oh he doesn't care that our hospitals are full schools full roads jam packed islam everywhere
because he lives on a fucking ISLAND..

I wonder if he would let PUNJAB on his island knowing he hates people who show their hair or
want to kill you for not believing in his faith..

No Richard can choose who he wants to live with..
So you keep you nose out of politics RICHARD because your piss poor at it..

Like this you bang on about pollution BUT your one of the biggest polluters on this planet..
You pollute the EARTH more than anyone  ..
So keep your mouth shut you greedy man and stay out of BRITISH politics you retard..

No Richard got LUCKY not smart got lucky..

mike oldfield tubular bells ..

[Sithara007]

What is the point in staying with the European Union, when the British voters rejected the proposal by a good margin? And at least as far as I know, the United Kingdom is no longer an absolute monarchy. It is a democracy. So whatever the people have decided, the rulers have to carry that out. It is not like if Theresa May want she can stay in the EU.

[Masha Sha]

What is the point in staying with the European Union, when the British voters rejected the proposal by a good margin? And at least as far as I know, the United Kingdom is no longer an absolute monarchy. It is a democracy. So whatever the people have decided, the rulers have to carry that out. It is not like if Theresa May want she can stay in the EU.

The problem is that opposing the fuhrer order is always hard.  Yes now they hide behind a mask of respectability, like antifa and such group but behind there is always an exected following the order mentality. Deeply the eu is an authoritative system slowy crushing everything less powerful to conform it.

The eu technocarts hate federalism like in the usa, where a town or state can make some plants illegal while another not, because they see it as threath to their power and salary.

Look at bruxelles, there was nothing 20 years ago...

It s funny how this invasion by third worlders isnmet with the same mental scheme than during hitler germany. First they have a plan: welcome everyone. Then see the plan fails. Then want to put the loss on everyone by splitting their mistakes. And rather that say to be wrong, and lose the fuhrer ship , they prefer to continue to have power had really sink and collapse in eurabia.

At the end of the day most governement divide people and most market unite people.

[Aladdin-Sane-83]

Hilarious thread by the Brexiteers. 

Please finally leave the EU and take Theresa May with you. We will see in a few decades how it worked out for the EU and Britain. It was hard getting something done in the EU in the past decade since the UK was basically against everything without making any useful proposals...and good luck with rebuilding your desolate industry without european free trade and good luck subsidizing your farers yourself without the EU money.

[popcorn1]

Hilarious thread by the Brexiteers. 

Please finally leave the EU and take Theresa May with you. We will see in a few decades how it worked out for the EU and Britain. It was hard getting something done in the EU in the past decade since the UK was basically against everything without making any useful proposals...and good luck with rebuilding your desolate industry without european free trade and good luck subsidizing your farers yourself without the EU money.

Good luck ..Hard work 
A bit of elbow grease and some spine  ..


without European free trade  ..
I don't see the EU lasting for very long ..
To many unhappy Europeans started off with Greece then Italy France not looking to good ether..

 subsidizing your farers yourself without the EU money        WHAT EU MONEY?..
You mean we pay 10 billion to the EU each year and they give us back 5 billion so we loose 5 BILLION  ..

.and good luck with rebuilding your desolate industry YES and thanks to the EU and the London ass holes it become desolate ..

It was hard getting something done in the EU in the past decade ..Yes because the EU become more than free trade in the last decade
They become like the UNITED STATES OF EUROPE ..

And the worst is more have joined making it even harder to do trade HOW YOU ASK?..

Well imagine a country wants to sell apples from outside of the EU well 27 countries need to all agree to do trade with 1 country..

Now imagine 1 of your 27 countries main product is apples then you got a problem the other 26 will loose out because of 1 country doesn't want apples on the markets because they will loose out..

And that's another reason i want out to difficult to trade with other countries because all need to agree..
Now imagine a country wants to sell the EU apples cars and computers then i can imagine it would take for ever to get a trade deal done..

And the fact the UK is the people with the money we want to buy buy buy and you want to sell sell sell well not no more by the looks of things ..

I see the world like a row of shops i can always walk in another ..
Some countries without us buying their goods they will feel the pinch we wont  ..

Buy a cabbage in the EU or BRAZIL  buy in Brazil they become richer don't buy in the EU they become poorer ..

And WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ..We have the biggest army in the EU why because our people suffered to buy these weapons
while Germany and the likes used us as protection while their GDP is in SURPLUS..

We the UK suffered to pay for these weapons and also buy putting our future generations in DEBT while the GERMANS and the likes children
don't suffer debt before they are even born..

So now the British people have now said enough is enough we want out of your JEDI mind TRICKS..

The EU JEDI      You will pay us 10 billion ..Well those Jedi mind tricks don't work on a JEDI ..
So now i want out..Like 17 odd million do and i thinks way more want out now ..
Only London who want to stay and a few others ..

Now about religion freaks saying that abortion is WRONG..

Ok then if your wife one day is RAPED and comes home saying she is pregnant to the RAPIST and wants to keep it then you say as a man
life is sanctity and i will look after like my own ..

Now considering Jacob Reese Mogg he as a nanny for his children because he is rich and lives in a huge house i would like to see him look after this child if his wife got raped..

No i would wish that on anybody BUT what if it did happen to your wife would you look after that child like your own?..

And i always thought it was 12 weeks and after 12 weeks it was to late but they upped it i believe which is wrong because now it's a human
BUT it still is not my choice ..

I mean an unwanted baby can become a genius or a killer more chance though an unwanted child will be a killer
messed up in the head no parents or people who love them       as humans that would hurt..

And on a last note for the EU CRAZIES ..

We the UK are open for business How EASY give Brazil loads of money to kick start them buying OUR GOODS
Then we get it back over time ..

If you sell cakes it's easy to lend cakes out so they can sell them for a profit then pay you back later to buy more cakes ..
And like Brazil they have green lush land ..
Oh and not just Brazil many many other nation outside the EU..

We invented the 3 piece suit to do business and believe me when you look in the mirror you feel important..

We will become a digital nation a smart nation ..
Now do you want free trade or not?..

Because we are MONEY ..
And you the EU need it by selling to us the UK ..

The Corporate Tax Rate in European Union stands at 22.50 percent..

The current Corporation Tax rate in the UK is 19% for company profits ,,

3.5% more if you move to the eu and the fact someone can set up a company after you move with less profits BUT still make billions by doing what you done in the same spot ..

THE BANK OF DAVE ..

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About a guy who set up his own bank because the way the banks are acting ..

If dave can do it anyone can..

SO PLEASE MOVE ..

I hate companies who think they are above countries well not in the 21st century EVERYONE is a entrepreneur and are lining up to take over any old company and make a new one ..

So to the EU cut your nose to spite your face and you will loose big time..
2 world wars and you think we are scared ..

Time to show you Eu what we are made of..

This is what i wanted though a race to see who is the best who makes the best laws the best tech the best planet for all..

27 nations trying to agree on products from outside the EU will always be hard to do business ALWAYS ..

I know we the British will thrive ..

You will get our own people though trying anything to bring us down but they will FAIL..
And rats will do this to say i told you so ..

Like a TONY BLAIR and the likes..

Finance will be done at home no need for London soon ..
Look at all the CRYPTO finance apps.
Soon like the London black cab the finance industry will be done at home no need for big building soon..
UBER killed the London black cab..
You will be your own investor investing in your own share of the pies without the need for middlemen ..

The wonder of the internet and all it's glory ..

[popcorn1]

The EU without Uk trade..   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOS3jBy3bl4

So just think other nations of Europe are you a country or the united states of Europe?..

Well if united states of Europe then make sure you don't become a Detroit ..

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Mom cooking dinner, dad coming home from work, people mowing their lawns and washing their cars on the ..

Let the games begin  ..

Bye bye EU

Bye bye LABOUR PARTY..

Back stabbing liars..

[Aladdin-Sane-83]

Intresting how many people blindly follow their political leaders and their obvious lies in the year 2017.
I hope everything will work out well for the UK and the EU, but the Brexit campain was riding on a horse filled with lies and false arguments about the EU, that are still circulating in the UK. Or how is your weekly 350m pounds spending for the NHS going, that was advertised?

[coolcoinz]

They are doing the right thing. I'm amazed by Merkel's and Macron's attitudes. They are being tossed around by swarms of migrants and are losing money by fighting and relocating them, yet they still want more. They still think it's the right thing to do,e even if it puts their public safety at risk. They are threatening countries that don't want Muslim migrants, especially the ones that come from countries without a conflict. In reality most of those migrants aren't from Syria, yet they are being received without problems and paid wages! EU is going to be gone in 10 years.

[criptix]

They are doing the right thing. I'm amazed by Merkel's and Macron's attitudes. They are being tossed around by swarms of migrants and are losing money by fighting and relocating them, yet they still want more. They still think it's the right thing to do,e even if it puts their public safety at risk. They are threatening countries that don't want Muslim migrants, especially the ones that come from countries without a conflict. In reality most of those migrants aren't from Syria, yet they are being received without problems and paid wages! EU is going to be gone in 10 years.

How many more do france and germany wanna take in ?_?
Please elaborate further you seem to be very knowledgeable.
Lols

[Sithara007]

They are doing the right thing. I'm amazed by Merkel's and Macron's attitudes. They are being tossed around by swarms of migrants and are losing money by fighting and relocating them, yet they still want more. They still think it's the right thing to do,e even if it puts their public safety at risk. They are threatening countries that don't want Muslim migrants, especially the ones that come from countries without a conflict. In reality most of those migrants aren't from Syria, yet they are being received without problems and paid wages! EU is going to be gone in 10 years.

Macron doesn't have much power in the EU. It is the Fuhrerin Angela Merkel, who is dictating the policies. And the other nations are forced to obey these orders, as they are too much dependent on Germany for funds and remittance. No one is gaining from it. The German tax payers are being slapped with 50% to 60% taxes on top of the VAT, in order to fund this adventure from Merkel.

[popcorn1]

To Labour party and the REMOANERS you are in parliament discussing about EU law..

Now what you STUPID people don't realise is we sat down with the EU for 40 years and made those laws not just people from the EU British people made those laws for the EU as well as many other nation in the EU..

Now you are saying if we want to leave why do we want EU laws in the UK laws if you want to leave..

Well imagine this ..
When we made these laws with Europe when we joined the EU as a nation we sat down and made laws like this..

If you put your hand in the fire it burns so don't do it..
So we as all nations around the EU thought yes a good IDEA we will put that into law ?..

Now because we are leaving and the fact the don't put your hand in the fire law is in EU law
are you saying we who decided to leave should now say
OH well because it's in the EU law we cannot have that common sense law in our law even though we thought of that idea too..

So because we want out we have got to have the put your hand in the fire law even though that law makes no sense?..

So because we all decided around the EU about what the law should be on many many things
we would put the EU law in our laws and if we come across a law that we need changing then we change it LIKE..

We the UK want MICRO BEADS taken out of soaps and why not change that law IF in EU law it says it's ok to have MICRO BEADS?..

And in EU law it says don't smoke near this type of gas then we the UK would keep that law because it makes common sense because we would blow up if we said no because it's EU law
every one can NOW smoke by this gas..

So stop being PATHETIC you REMOANERS

It's obvious we would also add EU law after all we did sit down with everyone and make those common sense laws ..
Just some  laws do and will need changing for the UK ..

Yes just like those PLASTIC BEADS in soaps..
Finishing rights and so on ..

So it's not like we are leaving and still want to be in because of LAWS common sense laws ..

Maybe if someone murders someone because it's in EU law we should forget it because the EU had it in their law ..

No it's common sense that if you commit murder you get punished with life in prison ..

And all this parliament voting is a waste of time for no reason but to STALL  ..

So lets get on with it and lets get out because i want some cakes i can eat..

No not those EU cakes they give us ..
Make us look at them and apparently we cannot eat them  ..

Silly thing to do with a cake don't you think..DON'T EAT IT ..

[Kava]

It seems to me that they are doing the right thing, because the European Union will soon fall apart because of the large flow of refugees that will destroy the beautiful European countries and make them the worst in the world.

[popcorn1]

I am watching
state of the union address live right now..

Junker i thinks your DELUDED ..

We the uk cannot wait to leave and it's the European countries who will regret being in your gangster
block..

Funny how many EU nations who left big blocks like the soviet union to then join the
European union ..
And they are telling your countries what to do like HUNGARY POLAND..

And Italy is swamped with immigrants ..
And i seen one guy who said he sacked his cousin because he can get labour for half the price..

Like working in a cafe they undercut the wages because they just come from Africa and they was getting paid WATER so imagine what half of the wages is like to them in ITALY..

Much better than WATER..
Oh they can go the park and buy lemonade now and send 20 dollars to their family while paying rent on a TENT or a bed sit with 10 others while all along the Italian family need to pay rent and send children to school with nice clothes THEY DON'T..

And this is what you all want in the EU cheap labour for businesses that drive your poor down
even further than before..

And over run public services that TAXES are needed BUT the big businesses don't pay for
You the little guy gets TAXED..

So in the end your country turns to poo..