Do you Think we Are alone in the Universe?

[BADecker]

it is a question that people still argue on,
I believe that we are not alone in the universe but I still am interested in hearing others opinion on this.

Let's go through some numbers so it will be easier to grasp and answer the question. We are orbiting our parent star with 7 more planets which are (with exception of Mars) highly inhospitable (let's also exclude few moons of Saturn and Jupiter). But let's go out of our solar system.

There are aprrox 200 billion stars in our galaxy alone. Some estimates say there are at least 2 planets oribiting each star. What we are looking for are the planets which are orbiting stars in their goldilocks zone (where water can be in liquid form and organic chemistry can take place).

Let's go forward and say that there are billions of other galaxies which consists of billions of stars. We probably aren't alone, we are just so far away.

Let's go through some more numbers.

Seems to me I read that a supercomputer would take 25,000 years to crack a Bitcoin address.

The key to making life from scratch - inorganic to organic, and organic to human - is so complex that the odds that evolution people suggest are way off. It would take hundreds of billions of years to make life out of inorganics, or human from simple one-celled creatures.

Probably, the further back we go, the greater the odds against life at all. You can search for the number of electrons in the universe. But this is far less than the complexity involved in life.


What this means is that if there is life out there somewhere, it is completely different than any life we understand. Or it means that the whole process for life coming into being is dynamically different that anything that we have come close to thinking of.

When you run the numbers for life, even life on Earth is impossible to exist... except for the fact that it does. How life got here, and where it came from (technically speaking), is completely unknown. Odds are strongly against the universe being big enough that life in intelligent form exists anywhere else in the universe.

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[lightlord]

I read that a supercomputer would take 25,000 years to crack a Bitcoin address.

Much longer than 25,000 years.
2^256 = ~1.16*10^77.

Even if we assume the entire Bitcoin network worth of hardware was dedicated solely to the cracking.
~80 zettaflops.

8*10^22, lets assume it takes 1000 flops per attempt. You get 8*10^19 per second.
31536000 Seconds. 3.154*10^7. -> ~2.5*10^27/Year.
Assume there are 100 Million bitcoin addresses. 10^8.
2.5*10^35.

It would take 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Years to crack a bitcoin address, assuming the entire bitcoin network's hardware was solely for that purpose.

Edit: 2^160 to find a ecdsa public key that hashes to the same 160-bit value. So 1.46*10^48.

Still 10000000000000 Years or 10 trillion years.

[BADecker]

I read that a supercomputer would take 25,000 years to crack a Bitcoin address.

Much longer than 25,000 years.

Thank you.

The number of characters use to calculate a bitcoin address are 256, aren't they? And the place that they are used is a computer that has limited calculating space and capacity, right?

Doesn't this mean that in the whole universe, with who-knows-how-many different particles and wave forms, that the odds of coming together in a complexity called life is far more "randomly" opposed to than in favor of? Whatever could accidentally come to be life, could much more easily be destroyed by the same things that might cause the complexity.

Natural selection is selection. To have selection in this vast panorama of undetectable selection method, would mean that random would destroy complexity rather than build it... or that there is intelligence in the whole universe.

The process for life to exist on earth or anywhere else by anything that we know, is that life is impossible. But we exist in life form. This means that our whole understanding of what life is and where it comes from is focused in completely the wrong direction.

There could be life out there, but by anything we understand, there isn't. The only thing that makes us think that there is life out there is the same thing that makes us gamble in the lottery where the odds of winning are millions to one against.

But, there is that ONE. "And it could be me." But some lotteries get pretty high without a winner. There just might be a no-winner lottery some time... one that goes on forever without a winner. We need to focus on reality rather than our hopes and dreams.

[Ashong Salonga]

There are so much humans in the world, and sometimes we still feel like we are alone; why is that? It is because of our emotions, oftentimes we are sad to the point we forgot that we have someone to talk to. Thus, we are really not alone there are just circumstances that people make us feel alone; maybe they are not just for us.

[peter0425]

There are so much humans in the world, and sometimes we still feel like we are alone; why is that? It is because of our emotions, oftentimes we are sad to the point we forgot that we have someone to talk to. Thus, we are really not alone there are just circumstances that people make us feel alone; maybe they are not just for us.

This topic is about other living creatures that may be living in other places outside the earth

For me?nope there are other life outside our planet and maybe they are in other form not in human form

[BADecker]

^^^ Does "alone in the universe" mean lonely because we don't have friends? Or does it have to do with aliens on distant planets?

On Earth we are not alone. There are loads of people around us if we only open our eyes to them. But if there are aliens in space somewhere, we don't know... at least not officially. We can guess that they are there. But we don't know.

[LUCKMCFLY]

This article really caught my attention: US Army signs contract to study UFO material and make better weapons, washingtonexaminer.com, especially because of the way The army of states will address, this is an issue that previous governments have been hiding, I do not know, but if I totally believe that we are not alone in the universe, in fact, I have seen some documentaries on YouTube that I will share with You are: ApexTv, where many have agreed that time travel can be done by 2028, they say they are developed under extraterrestrial technology, and that in the future it will be normal to interact with beings from other planets.

[BADecker]

^^^ Except for one thing. Anybody can write articles. There are science fiction writers all over the place. Get them on the stand with their provable evidence, under oath. Until then, take it all with a grain of salt... or a shipload of salt. Of course, if you really like science fiction...

[kfg52]

I think we're not alone in the universe.

[coin-boss]

I don't think we are alone. Whatever form of life is out there from bacteria to a superior being everything is possible, however, IF there is a race similar to human or superior (technological, ethnical, add other options here) I doubt they would want to contact us or show themselves given how low the Human being can be. Even though Humanity made some progress in the last centuries we are still far off what we should be IMHO.

[peter0425]

I don't think we are alone. Whatever form of life is out there from bacteria to a superior being everything is possible, however, IF there is a race similar to human or superior (technological, ethnical, add other options here) I doubt they would want to contact us or show themselves given how low the Human being can be. Even though Humanity made some progress in the last centuries we are still far off what we should be IMHO.

But don’t expect the to contact us because if does then this is like a Independence Day movie? Lol but how I wish they will come here to show themselves to us so people might have known so we will stop replying to this topic 😂 joke this is cool .

[Naida_BR]

Of course not. Imagine the size of the Universe (if possible) and ask again.
In my opinion, it's too selfish to think that the humanity is the only intelligent species.

I think that we are not alone as well.
How can you explain the fact that we have not met any other species from another planet? I mean we have seen many elements on the sky but this is not any proof that there are other intelligent species on the planet.

[Artemis3]

We haven't explored anything yet. much more to see and I believe there are other species

Yeah, they even found water on Mars which could mean that there was very basic lifeforms on that planet.

Mars surface has obvious signs, that once upon a time, had oceans and its frozen poles are still visible today. Perhaps it was livable many hundreds of thousands of years ago, perhaps by the same time Earth was an inhospitable hell of molten lava and poisonous gases. Something "unknown" happened, that got rid of that planet atmosphere, or maybe it was always thin, and its seems to have lost its protective magnetic layer as well, in any case everything dried up.

But it seems to me, that at some point in the history of this "Solar" system, it was Mars and not Earth the habitable planet.

Thing is, cosmic history is so vast and wide compared to the minuscule existence of human life. How could we possible ever know? A little has been found by looking real far, deep into space in all directions. After all, what you observe from here, is already far in the past over there... But eventually you reach what they call "big bang" for lack of a better term. And then we cannot see further, doesn't mean there wasn't actually anything before...

We are so insignificant it is a miracle we still exist, but for how long? Many space faring races might have come and gone before they had the chance to interact with any other, due to the sheer distances involved, and time relativity.

To quote a fellow Vulcan: "Fascinating".

[one21gals]

this is yet to be discovered
as of now there is no strong proof of aliens

[Shturman AS]

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[Sirait]

we are not alone, there are many creatures out there waiting for us to visit, and we are billions of light-years away from them

the logic that I take is very simple...
vast space is unlimited, a galaxy is only a small part of space and there are thousands of galaxies in space, in each galaxy there is one planet similar to Earth

is stupid and selfish if we say that only earth has a sentient life on this infinite space

[BADecker]

^^^ On the other hand, is it silly to think that something as complex as this earth and the co-dependent life hereon could happen twice. If it could, we would be selfish to think that it didn't happen twice right here.

Find another race on earth that is as intelligent and industrious as humans, and I'll believe that their might possibly be one out there. After all, we have all the abundance of everything that it takes to make life in millions of forms. So, show me the real reason why we don't have another form like us right here? Not just a bunch of excuses that people us to make each other think that there must be life out there.

The complexity of life here is so great that it really couldn't happen once. But here we are. We simply don't really know why. So, why would we think that such complexity could happen twice... out there.

[chr1stian12]

It's No 😊 That question maybe came from a person who struggles really hard in life, who often feel alone and nothing to lean on. But dude, I want you to know that God for us Christians are always at our side when trouble comes.

[KWeenk]

I think we are the aliens in a way. I also think that there is plenty of life forms even in our galaxy, soon to be found and announced. We will have to wait for all those space missions but that will happen in our lifetime I hope.

[CryptoMargo]

This is a very difficult question, I think. I would like to believe that we are not alone and a lot of research is being done on this issue, but is it worth it to believe. who knows... who knows...