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September 12, 2017, 10:32:26 PM
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People who are interested in using mixers usually put large amounts, so assuming that you actually have 2000 BTC in stock, why not put more in escrow because 10 BTC as insurance are really nothing much?

Since there are a lot of competitors, we assume that people will test our services with small amounts. as soon as we gain more trust, we will put 100 (within 2 months).

and for the record, this "escrow" is not free, we're paying % for this service.  
Wow, great logo, liked logo very much.
So now what's about mixer, can you show us signed message from adresses where you have reserve of 2000 coins? Do this like cryptomixer did it once, they show it to reputable members here. It's better than holding 10 btc in escrow. Also as you said you are going to escrow 100 btc in near future, suggest you to do this on some person, not on one and choose very reputables.
Show reserves to some DT members here and ask them to sign message and confirm that you really hold 2000btc, this will be fair, do this..
Wish you success..

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September 13, 2017, 01:01:26 AM
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People who are interested in using mixers usually put large amounts, so assuming that you actually have 2000 BTC in stock, why not put more in escrow because 10 BTC as insurance are really nothing much?

Since there are a lot of competitors, we assume that people will test our services with small amounts. as soon as we gain more trust, we will put 100 (within 2 months).

and for the record, this "escrow" is not free, we're paying % for this service.  
Wow, great logo, liked logo very much.
So now what's about mixer, can you show us signed message from adresses where you have reserve of 2000 coins? Do this like cryptomixer did it once, they show it to reputable members here. It's better than holding 10 btc in escrow. Also as you said you are going to escrow 100 btc in near future, suggest you to do this on some person, not on one and choose very reputables.
Show reserves to some DT members here and ask them to sign message and confirm that you really hold 2000btc, this will be fair, do this..
Wish you success..

We do not need to public our address with 2000+ BTC. once we reach the 10 BTC limit, we will put 100+ BTC in escrow and we will continue to do so until we reach our 2000+ BTC stock.

No one from the current bitcoin mixers providers did the same, we simply guarantee that no one will be scammed, our stock and especially BTC address is our own business  we do not want to be exposed to hackers. thank you.

However...
You can try to mix 10BTC, after we will mix them for you, we put 100BTC in escrow, you can mix them too, and after 100BTC we will place 500BTC in escrow.

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September 13, 2017, 09:28:43 AM
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People who are interested in using mixers usually put large amounts, so assuming that you actually have 2000 BTC in stock, why not put more in escrow because 10 BTC as insurance are really nothing much?

Since there are a lot of competitors, we assume that people will test our services with small amounts. as soon as we gain more trust, we will put 100 (within 2 months).

and for the record, this "escrow" is not free, we're paying % for this service.  
Wow, great logo, liked logo very much.
So now what's about mixer, can you show us signed message from adresses where you have reserve of 2000 coins? Do this like cryptomixer did it once, they show it to reputable members here. It's better than holding 10 btc in escrow. Also as you said you are going to escrow 100 btc in near future, suggest you to do this on some person, not on one and choose very reputables.
Show reserves to some DT members here and ask them to sign message and confirm that you really hold 2000btc, this will be fair, do this..
Wish you success..

We do not need to public our address with 2000+ BTC. once we reach the 10 BTC limit, we will put 100+ BTC in escrow and we will continue to do so until we reach our 2000+ BTC stock.

No one from the current bitcoin mixers providers did the same, we simply guarantee that no one will be scammed, our stock and especially BTC address is our own business especially we do not want to be exposed to hackers. thank you.

However...
You can try to mix 10BTC, after we will mix them for you, we put 100BTC in escrow, you can mix them too, and after 100BTC we will place 500BTC in escrow.

No man, as I said Cryptomixer did this, they prove their reserves by signing messages from their adresses where they had 2000 btc.
Here is link and see this thread carefully: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.msg15262587#msg15262587
I don't say you are scammer, seems this is your way to prove your trust but escrowing so regularly won't be cheap for you and especially escrowing of 500btc is very hard task, that's big money.

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September 14, 2017, 07:02:49 AM
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People who are interested in using mixers usually put large amounts, so assuming that you actually have 2000 BTC in stock, why not put more in escrow because 10 BTC as insurance are really nothing much?

Since there are a lot of competitors, we assume that people will test our services with small amounts. as soon as we gain more trust, we will put 100 (within 2 months).

and for the record, this "escrow" is not free, we're paying % for this service.  
Wow, great logo, liked logo very much.
So now what's about mixer, can you show us signed message from adresses where you have reserve of 2000 coins? Do this like cryptomixer did it once, they show it to reputable members here. It's better than holding 10 btc in escrow. Also as you said you are going to escrow 100 btc in near future, suggest you to do this on some person, not on one and choose very reputables.
Show reserves to some DT members here and ask them to sign message and confirm that you really hold 2000btc, this will be fair, do this..
Wish you success..

We do not need to public our address with 2000+ BTC. once we reach the 10 BTC limit, we will put 100+ BTC in escrow and we will continue to do so until we reach our 2000+ BTC stock.

No one from the current bitcoin mixers providers did the same, we simply guarantee that no one will be scammed, our stock and especially BTC address is our own business especially we do not want to be exposed to hackers. thank you.

However...
You can try to mix 10BTC, after we will mix them for you, we put 100BTC in escrow, you can mix them too, and after 100BTC we will place 500BTC in escrow.

No man, as I said Cryptomixer did this, they prove their reserves by signing messages from their adresses where they had 2000 btc.
Here is link and see this thread carefully: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.msg15262587#msg15262587
I don't say you are scammer, seems this is your way to prove your trust but escrowing so regularly won't be cheap for you and especially escrowing of 500btc is very hard task, that's big money.


We might do it in the future, thank you!

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September 14, 2017, 08:46:54 AM
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Too many similarities between you and Bitmixer that recently shut down.

I'm not accusing you of being a scammer at all. I respect the fact that you are trying to prove that you are legit by depositing 10 BTC into a trusted escrow - at least it proves that you are not just a cheap scammer.

However, everything seems to be the same between you and bit mixer. Same sort of logo(i know it's temporary), similar name(all in caps as well), same discription on your site, the tabs are all the same as well. What exactly is your relationship with bit mixer?

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September 14, 2017, 08:59:58 AM
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Too many similarities between you and Bitmixer that recently shut down.

I'm not accusing you of being a scammer at all. I respect the fact that you are trying to prove that you are legit by depositing 10 BTC into a trusted escrow - at least it proves that you are not just a cheap scammer.

However, everything seems to be the same between you and bit mixer. Same sort of logo(i know it's temporary), similar name(all in caps as well), same discription on your site, the tabs are all the same as well. What exactly is your relationship with bit mixer?

I think bitmixer did some mistakes that could expose his real identity, that being said....

No further comment.  Wink

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Too many similarities between you and Bitmixer that recently shut down.

I'm not accusing you of being a scammer at all. I respect the fact that you are trying to prove that you are legit by depositing 10 BTC into a trusted escrow - at least it proves that you are not just a cheap scammer.

However, everything seems to be the same between you and bit mixer. Same sort of logo(i know it's temporary), similar name(all in caps as well), same discription on your site, the tabs are all the same as well. What exactly is your relationship with bit mixer?

I think bitmixer did some mistakes that could expose his real identity, that being said....

No further comment.  Wink

Lol okay, it's your right and i'm not going to force you to answer my questions.

I would suggest to shy away from association both in name and on your site with Bitmixer, though. That could potentially be suspect to certain people and make them go to another mixer service. Right now, the whole site looks like a complete clone of bit mixer, apart from the fact that colors were changed.

Also you have to think up some things to make your brand more appealing. currently, chipmixer offers 0 fee mixing Wink

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Too many similarities between you and Bitmixer that recently shut down.

I'm not accusing you of being a scammer at all. I respect the fact that you are trying to prove that you are legit by depositing 10 BTC into a trusted escrow - at least it proves that you are not just a cheap scammer.

However, everything seems to be the same between you and bit mixer. Same sort of logo(i know it's temporary), similar name(all in caps as well), same discription on your site, the tabs are all the same as well. What exactly is your relationship with bit mixer?

I think bitmixer did some mistakes that could expose his real identity, that being said....

No further comment.  Wink

Lol okay, it's your right and i'm not going to force you to answer my questions.

I would suggest to shy away from association both in name and on your site with Bitmixer, though. That could potentially be suspect to certain people and make them go to another mixer service. Right now, the whole site looks like a complete clone of bit mixer, apart from the fact that colors were changed.

Also you have to think up some things to make your brand more appealing. currently, chipmixer offers 0 fee mixing Wink

I wish chipmixer all the best with their gambling chips.

Don't worry about our customers, we wish you all the best as well.

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Too many similarities between you and Bitmixer that recently shut down.

I'm not accusing you of being a scammer at all. I respect the fact that you are trying to prove that you are legit by depositing 10 BTC into a trusted escrow - at least it proves that you are not just a cheap scammer.

However, everything seems to be the same between you and bit mixer. Same sort of logo(i know it's temporary), similar name(all in caps as well), same discription on your site, the tabs are all the same as well. What exactly is your relationship with bit mixer?

I think bitmixer did some mistakes that could expose his real identity, that being said....

No further comment.  Wink

Lol okay, it's your right and i'm not going to force you to answer my questions.

I would suggest to shy away from association both in name and on your site with Bitmixer, though. That could potentially be suspect to certain people and make them go to another mixer service. Right now, the whole site looks like a complete clone of bit mixer, apart from the fact that colors were changed.

Also you have to think up some things to make your brand more appealing. currently, chipmixer offers 0 fee mixing Wink

I wish chipmixer all the best with their gambling chips.

Don't worry about our customers, we wish you all the best as well.

I don't know if you are the "same" with Bitmixer and i don't really care so much.
Bitmixer decide to close their service,to bad for us users but they have their reasons for this decision.
Now another mixer service came up. Bitmixcoin have similarities with Bitmixer ok,why is this so bad?
I don't see any harm with this,in fact i think it's good to have more than one/two options for any kind of service.

Ofc to be reliable and make ppl trust you their funds,needs a lot more than 10BTC for a mixer service.
But it's a good start especially when these funds is escrowed. I wish you the best and i will try your service in the near future. Cool

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Also you have to think up some things to make your brand more appealing. currently, chipmixer offers 0 fee mixing Wink

ChipMixer offers 0 fees, but this doesn't mean they will continue doing so in the future. At the end of the day, even mixing services are businesses, and a business aims to make profit. If you read through ChipMixer's thread, they might be opening up for investors to start 'lending' their coins to ChipMixer -- this event will cause ChipMixer to start charging fees. Other than that, I wish any mixing service looking to offer people privacy a good future. Let's not derail this thread any further....
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Too many similarities between you and Bitmixer that recently shut down.

I'm not accusing you of being a scammer at all. I respect the fact that you are trying to prove that you are legit by depositing 10 BTC into a trusted escrow - at least it proves that you are not just a cheap scammer.

However, everything seems to be the same between you and bit mixer. Same sort of logo(i know it's temporary), similar name(all in caps as well), same discription on your site, the tabs are all the same as well. What exactly is your relationship with bit mixer?

I think bitmixer did some mistakes that could expose his real identity, that being said....

No further comment.  Wink

Lol okay, it's your right and i'm not going to force you to answer my questions.

I would suggest to shy away from association both in name and on your site with Bitmixer, though. That could potentially be suspect to certain people and make them go to another mixer service. Right now, the whole site looks like a complete clone of bit mixer, apart from the fact that colors were changed.

Also you have to think up some things to make your brand more appealing. currently, chipmixer offers 0 fee mixing Wink
Don't want to be rude but your action seems like promoting chipmixer over bitmixcoin. Currently we can't say they are scammers because as we see they used escrow. I don't like when mixers try to have similar name of bitmixer but maybe that's because of promotion (still don't like this). Let's see what future will show us, as they say they are going to escrow 10, 50, 100 and 500 bitcoin. And if they prove that they own 2000 btc reserve, sorry but I think you have don't have to say bad about them without real proofs. Every bitcoin service can to turn into scam, even Bitmain scammed sometimes and problems were only solved after scam accusations.

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Don't be serious about it but it looks like you purchased old bitmixer.io and changed the interface and few other things may be fees and relaunched the bitmixer.io service with a new name.

Update : After reading the page http://www.bitmixcoin.io/faq.php I'm pretty sure about it either you copied content from the bitmixer or you are new owner of the service sold by previous owner to you or the service of bitmixer relaunched with a new name.

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Why should I set custom fee?
If attacker knows service fee, he can analyse blockchain to find exact sum transferred and discover your destination account.
For example if you send 100 BTC with a fixed fee 0.5% + 0.0005 BTC, you should receive 99.4995 BTC. It is not so difficult to check blockchain after 24 hours and find all exact transactions. Even if you use several forward addresses it is quite easy. That is why we strongly recommend to set custom fee, combined with several forward addresses and time delay.

Your fee is 1% and 0.001 btc for every forwarded address but you are using old 0.5% and 0.0005 in example

https://web.archive.org/web/20170912094519/https://bitmixer.io/faqs.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20170914190047/http://www.bitmixcoin.io/faq.php
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I have grown to trust BitMIXER over the years so when he said he was not going to sell the business I pretty much trust that.  So, this is a clone.

Being a clone with a very similar name does not, in itself, mean it is a scam.

My question is this:  assume they do not scam anyone and the mixing always works and everyone does trust the actual mixing service then how can we ever be convinced this is not a honeypot?  How would they go about proving they are not?  Serious question.  I have no answer.

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Don't be serious about it but it looks like you purchased old bitmixer.io and changed the interface and few other things may be fees and relaunched the bitmixer.io service with a new name.

Update : After reading the page http://www.bitmixcoin.io/faq.php I'm pretty sure about it either you copied content from the bitmixer or you are new owner of the service sold by previous owner to you or the service of bitmixer relaunched with a new name.

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Why should I set custom fee?
If attacker knows service fee, he can analyse blockchain to find exact sum transferred and discover your destination account.
For example if you send 100 BTC with a fixed fee 0.5% + 0.0005 BTC, you should receive 99.4995 BTC. It is not so difficult to check blockchain after 24 hours and find all exact transactions. Even if you use several forward addresses it is quite easy. That is why we strongly recommend to set custom fee, combined with several forward addresses and time delay.

Your fee is 1% and 0.001 btc for every forwarded address but you are using old 0.5% and 0.0005 in example

https://web.archive.org/web/20170912094519/https://bitmixer.io/faqs.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20170914190047/http://www.bitmixcoin.io/faq.php

Nice catch! Then again, the fish are schooling -> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22if+you+send+100+BTC+with+a+fixed+fee%22&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS727US727&filter=0&biw=1422&bih=656&dpr=1.13
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That is a LOT of clones from one web site.

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The FAQ page and various other pages are simply copies from one to another, it is a default page by many service providers.

we are here to stay for long, once we gain more trust we will put more funds into escrow, we also paying a big % for doing that.
other providers after small amounts running out of BITCOINS, situations that would never happen to our service.

regarding the 2000BTC signature, we do not want to expose our main wallet to the public in this stage. we will do so, when needed after we gain more trust and especially customers.  

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The FAQ page and various other pages are simply copies from one to another, it is a default page by many service providers.

we are here to stay for long, once we gain more trust we will put more funds into escrow, we also paying a big % for doing that.
other providers after small amounts running out of BITCOINS, situations that would never happen to our service.

regarding the 2000BTC signature, we do not want to expose our main wallet to the public in this stage. we will do so, when needed after we gain more trust and especially customers.  

When you had 2000 BTC signature then why you did this.
How this content makes you different from others they are also copying and you guys are also copying what makes you different from them, they also lie they have 2000 BTC you also do the same thing(as you haven't provided any proof)
Only thing what makes you guys different is 10 BTC in escrow.
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The FAQ page and various other pages are simply copies from one to another, it is a default page by many service providers.

we are here to stay for long, once we gain more trust we will put more funds into escrow, we also paying a big % for doing that.
other providers after small amounts running out of BITCOINS, situations that would never happen to our service.

regarding the 2000BTC signature, we do not want to expose our main wallet to the public in this stage. we will do so, when needed after we gain more trust and especially customers.  

When you had 2000 BTC signature then why you did this.
How this content makes you different from others they are also copying and you guys are also copying what makes you different from them, they also lie they have 2000 BTC you also do the same thing(as you haven't provided any proof)
Only thing what makes you guys different is 10 BTC in escrow.
Good Luck

One thing that makes the difference. we put BTC in escrow, no-one else did.

even if we sign a wallet with 100,000 bitcoins, this is still not a guarantee you won't get scammed. we start by placing 10BTC since our customer base is still low, once we gain a bigger trust and customers base, we will place 100 BTC in escrow to make sure no one of our customer will ever be scammed.

don't try to take from us credibility, this small action is what makes the difference. We wish you good luck too.

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Interesting service but seems like a lot of things were borrowed from the old bitmixer site as others have said. I don't think this is the smartest decision since bitmixer shut down probably because of pressure from regulators.

Anyways, it's good that you have put money into escrow.

however you need to be offering something significnatly better than current services as established services have a large customer base already.














 

 

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Interesting service but seems like a lot of things were borrowed from the old bitmixer site as others have said. I don't think this is the smartest decision since bitmixer shut down probably because of pressure from regulators.

Anyways, it's good that you have put money into escrow.

however you need to be offering something significnatly better than current services as established services have a large customer base already.

established services has limited stock, and we might do some promotions in the near future

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