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November 16, 2017, 08:10:39 PM |
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Let me compliment the BTCZ community for handling Anthony’s hissy fit so well and carrying on in such a professional manner. Great to see people and pools stepping up with donations and support. And a big thank you to bitcoinz_pod for telling it like it is and reminding us of this coin's "core principles and immutability."
Adversity make some stronger while causing others to crack under the strain. In my book, BTCZ has passed the test. I’m still mining and hodling, looking for great things from this coin down the road.
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November 16, 2017, 08:12:10 PM |
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Hello Guys, So here we go. From a decent size miner perspective - my inputs. It is not a secret, we miners we don't go well with devs. Mainly, bc every coin released it had a lot of pre-mined coins, sometime up to 60% or any other various fees. In the meantime, the only reason why, coins succeed is thanks to the miner community. All new coins when hit the exchanges are valued a lot, then the devs sale value go down. They profit, and we collect bits and pieces. But is us in the meantime, we mine, confirm the transactions, participate in community, create buzz. Each time believing, we are on something good. Some of us sale, some keep the coins. As for rewards, yea we get good returns in the beginning but sh...t afterwards. That is why we switch to new coins. The mining equipment cost a lot, running costs are big. There is money there, but the devs make a bigger chunk. Personally, i don’t think my profits should go according to whattomine. Pre-determined by algo. i remember, when panda coin came along in the first day you could do 20btc. now days with equihash f...all. btc gold came out it gave me 2x profit on paper (now the coin is falling and i can’t transfer to any exchange bc they don’t accept mined coins yet - fuc...n jock. It is a long time I advocate for thru miner’s coin. this coin has a huge potential, but. 1. has to totally decentralized. every person in charge of a project must have a backup and backup need backup as well. (we know that part already) 2. no equipment that could be seized by gouvs or hack. 3. miners most be important part of your system. don’t do like Mr.Butalik did. we did make his coin great and now he would like go POS bc he cares about environment BS. 4 don’t go spent donations, and fetch for sh...y exchanges. We all know they are all crap. Everyone in crypto will tell you what you need bitrex or polo and that is it. You get there, when millions of miners will mine your coin, and put pression on them. people that don’t mine buy from sht ..y exchanges, at cheap price and keep coins until hits the moon. 1-2 years of waiting and your 10000$ investment will be valued at 1mil and you won’t have to work ever again. trust me is not a bad trade, just ask your parents or look at them after 40-50 years of working for nothing. 5. payments from donations for any project should be send not from zwallet but the transparent one. 6. latest ethereum fiasco - same wallet controlled or needing approval to send founds by 3 people. can we develop that it will be good for business. 7. using zwallet we can send totally encrypted messages for a small fee (obviously this app/wallet needs to be made for the phone) We need to brain storm: 1. what to do, to keep small miner to mine your coin and smile from one ear to the other. 2. what to do, to keep the midsize from switching to other coins My solutions are 1. steady rewards. We all know when you mine 10 coins per day at 0.1 btc you make 1btc. Few hours later big farm jumps in the pool (most of them are programed) mines for 5min. diff goes up and they move to other coin. They sale your coin on exchange and don’t care about bringing the market price down. And we small miners, support and mine the coin for hours because of the high diff to collect 2 coins at half price (the price won’t go 5x because the diff is high). Then the diff goes down and then the sh...t restarts. You can ask any miner or pool operator in this forum and all will tell you this is the case. ok this coin is fast 2.5min but still. I belive we should: ban nicehash etc guys. or open ONLY official pools to give people choice. Only those pools will be able to mine this coin, and those pools won’t accept any gazillion hashrates. Or the other option is change the diff like btc ones every 2 weeks. I am business owner for past 15 years and this is my hobby. Any input accepted
Totally agree... And x1000 to: We all know when you mine 10 coins per day at 0.1 btc you make 1btc. Few hours later big farm jumps in the pool (most of them are programed) mines for 5min. diff goes up and they move to other coin. They sale your coin on exchange and don’t care about bringing the market price down. And we small miners, support and mine the coin for hours because of the high diff to collect 2 coins at half price (the price won’t go 5x because the diff is high). Then the diff goes down and then the sh...t restarts. You can ask any miner or pool operator in this forum and all will tell you this is the case. ok this coin is fast 2.5min but still. I belive we should: ban nicehash etc guys. or open ONLY official pools to give people choice. Only those pools will be able to mine this coin, and those pools won’t accept any gazillion hashrates. Or the other option is change the diff like btc ones every 2 weeks.
You nailed it. Congratulations. Best post in 156 fcking pages.
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November 16, 2017, 08:36:41 PM |
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Hello Guys, So here we go. From a decent size miner perspective - my inputs. It is not a secret, we miners we don't go well with devs. Mainly, bc every coin released it had a lot of pre-mined coins, sometime up to 60% or any other various fees. In the meantime, the only reason why, coins succeed is thanks to the miner community. All new coins when hit the exchanges are valued a lot, then the devs sale value go down. They profit, and we collect bits and pieces. But is us in the meantime, we mine, confirm the transactions, participate in community, create buzz. Each time believing, we are on something good. Some of us sale, some keep the coins. As for rewards, yea we get good returns in the beginning but sh...t afterwards. That is why we switch to new coins. The mining equipment cost a lot, running costs are big. There is money there, but the devs make a bigger chunk. Personally, i don’t think my profits should go according to whattomine. Pre-determined by algo. i remember, when panda coin came along in the first day you could do 20btc. now days with equihash f...all. btc gold came out it gave me 2x profit on paper (now the coin is falling and i can’t transfer to any exchange bc they don’t accept mined coins yet - fuc...n jock. It is a long time I advocate for thru miner’s coin. this coin has a huge potential, but. 1. has to totally decentralized. every person in charge of a project must have a backup and backup need backup as well. (we know that part already) 2. no equipment that could be seized by gouvs or hack. 3. miners most be important part of your system. don’t do like Mr.Butalik did. we did make his coin great and now he would like go POS bc he cares about environment BS. 4 don’t go spent donations, and fetch for sh...y exchanges. We all know they are all crap. Everyone in crypto will tell you what you need bitrex or polo and that is it. You get there, when millions of miners will mine your coin, and put pression on them. people that don’t mine buy from sht ..y exchanges, at cheap price and keep coins until hits the moon. 1-2 years of waiting and your 10000$ investment will be valued at 1mil and you won’t have to work ever again. trust me is not a bad trade, just ask your parents or look at them after 40-50 years of working for nothing. 5. payments from donations for any project should be send not from zwallet but the transparent one. 6. latest ethereum fiasco - same wallet controlled or needing approval to send founds by 3 people. can we develop that it will be good for business. 7. using zwallet we can send totally encrypted messages for a small fee (obviously this app/wallet needs to be made for the phone) We need to brain storm: 1. what to do, to keep small miner to mine your coin and smile from one ear to the other. 2. what to do, to keep the midsize from switching to other coins My solutions are 1. steady rewards. We all know when you mine 10 coins per day at 0.1 btc you make 1btc. Few hours later big farm jumps in the pool (most of them are programed) mines for 5min. diff goes up and they move to other coin. They sale your coin on exchange and don’t care about bringing the market price down. And we small miners, support and mine the coin for hours because of the high diff to collect 2 coins at half price (the price won’t go 5x because the diff is high). Then the diff goes down and then the sh...t restarts. You can ask any miner or pool operator in this forum and all will tell you this is the case. ok this coin is fast 2.5min but still. I belive we should: ban nicehash etc guys. or open ONLY official pools to give people choice. Only those pools will be able to mine this coin, and those pools won’t accept any gazillion hashrates. Or the other option is change the diff like btc ones every 2 weeks. I am business owner for past 15 years and this is my hobby. Any input accepted
I can't see any option of ban anyone it's free market for everyone. Additionally we are based on zcash an no hardforks are allowed other than zcash or scalability requirements. Coin should be immutable. Investor who buy this coin today should have the same coin in 10 years. Core of BTCZ will be always POW, same inflation, halving etc. All consensus changes should be banned, it creates just another chain / coin.
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BitcoinZ - In Decentralization We Trust
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November 16, 2017, 08:39:37 PM |
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What happens if my wallet goes offline while I am paid by the mining pool?
Will the funds automatically get deposited to my wallet, when the wallet comes back online?
Sorry, this could be a rookie question, just wanted to clarify.
Thanks.
Wallet doesn't matter. All you need is private key to your address to own coins. You can check your balance in online explorer. bitcoinz / bitcoin has distributed database.
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November 16, 2017, 08:40:48 PM |
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We have all zcash features included as BTCZ is zcash fork. We also recommend to keep coins in private addresses.
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BitcoinZ - In Decentralization We Trust
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bitcoinz-pod (OP)
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November 16, 2017, 08:49:10 PM |
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We have new seeders! You can update your bitcoinz.conf addnode=btzseed.blockhub.info addnode=dnsseed.kemperink.org addnode=seeder.nomadteam.net addnode=btcz.webrats.com addnode=btcz.es addnode=seed.btcz.life
Seeders are very important in decentralization. If you have server you can run seeder and help with the decentralization: https://github.com/bitcoinz-pod/bitcoinz/issues/12Is Tor nodes available? similar addnode=zcash2iihed2wdux.onion We need TOR nodes folks! Anyone would like to start node and post onion address? https://github.com/bitcoinz-pod/bitcoinz/issues/13Setup TOR nodes guide from ZENCash team - https://github.com/aayanl/zenontorWe need many TOR nodes. We will be fully decentralized with TOR nodes guys.
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November 16, 2017, 08:52:25 PM |
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what happened with pool http://www.pcmining.xyz/ ? 2nd time connection closed
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November 16, 2017, 09:07:56 PM |
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Hello Guys, So here we go. From a decent size miner perspective - my inputs. It is not a secret, we miners we don't go well with devs. Mainly, bc every coin released it had a lot of pre-mined coins, sometime up to 60% or any other various fees. In the meantime, the only reason why, coins succeed is thanks to the miner community. All new coins when hit the exchanges are valued a lot, then the devs sale value go down. They profit, and we collect bits and pieces. But is us in the meantime, we mine, confirm the transactions, participate in community, create buzz. Each time believing, we are on something good. Some of us sale, some keep the coins. As for rewards, yea we get good returns in the beginning but sh...t afterwards. That is why we switch to new coins. The mining equipment cost a lot, running costs are big. There is money there, but the devs make a bigger chunk. Personally, i don’t think my profits should go according to whattomine. Pre-determined by algo. i remember, when panda coin came along in the first day you could do 20btc. now days with equihash f...all. btc gold came out it gave me 2x profit on paper (now the coin is falling and i can’t transfer to any exchange bc they don’t accept mined coins yet - fuc...n jock. It is a long time I advocate for thru miner’s coin. this coin has a huge potential, but. 1. has to totally decentralized. every person in charge of a project must have a backup and backup need backup as well. (we know that part already) 2. no equipment that could be seized by gouvs or hack. 3. miners most be important part of your system. don’t do like Mr.Butalik did. we did make his coin great and now he would like go POS bc he cares about environment BS. 4 don’t go spent donations, and fetch for sh...y exchanges. We all know they are all crap. Everyone in crypto will tell you what you need bitrex or polo and that is it. You get there, when millions of miners will mine your coin, and put pression on them. people that don’t mine buy from sht ..y exchanges, at cheap price and keep coins until hits the moon. 1-2 years of waiting and your 10000$ investment will be valued at 1mil and you won’t have to work ever again. trust me is not a bad trade, just ask your parents or look at them after 40-50 years of working for nothing. 5. payments from donations for any project should be send not from zwallet but the transparent one. 6. latest ethereum fiasco - same wallet controlled or needing approval to send founds by 3 people. can we develop that it will be good for business. 7. using zwallet we can send totally encrypted messages for a small fee (obviously this app/wallet needs to be made for the phone) We need to brain storm: 1. what to do, to keep small miner to mine your coin and smile from one ear to the other. 2. what to do, to keep the midsize from switching to other coins My solutions are 1. steady rewards. We all know when you mine 10 coins per day at 0.1 btc you make 1btc. Few hours later big farm jumps in the pool (most of them are programed) mines for 5min. diff goes up and they move to other coin. They sale your coin on exchange and don’t care about bringing the market price down. And we small miners, support and mine the coin for hours because of the high diff to collect 2 coins at half price (the price won’t go 5x because the diff is high). Then the diff goes down and then the sh...t restarts. You can ask any miner or pool operator in this forum and all will tell you this is the case. ok this coin is fast 2.5min but still. I belive we should: ban nicehash etc guys. or open ONLY official pools to give people choice. Only those pools will be able to mine this coin, and those pools won’t accept any gazillion hashrates. Or the other option is change the diff like btc ones every 2 weeks. I am business owner for past 15 years and this is my hobby. Any input accepted
Totally agree... And x1000 to: We all know when you mine 10 coins per day at 0.1 btc you make 1btc. Few hours later big farm jumps in the pool (most of them are programed) mines for 5min. diff goes up and they move to other coin. They sale your coin on exchange and don’t care about bringing the market price down. And we small miners, support and mine the coin for hours because of the high diff to collect 2 coins at half price (the price won’t go 5x because the diff is high). Then the diff goes down and then the sh...t restarts. You can ask any miner or pool operator in this forum and all will tell you this is the case. ok this coin is fast 2.5min but still. I belive we should: ban nicehash etc guys. or open ONLY official pools to give people choice. Only those pools will be able to mine this coin, and those pools won’t accept any gazillion hashrates. Or the other option is change the diff like btc ones every 2 weeks.
+1 This is what BzcZ team need to read. If we wanna make this coin grow we need to remove those 100 ks/s miner's. If that's possible.
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November 16, 2017, 09:11:11 PM |
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I had to reboot server guys, sorry about that... We found another block while reboot Today is very lucky day
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https://www.cratex.ioCratex is international cryptocurrency trade platform and best place to buy, sell, trade and learn about crypto (0.1% trade fee, minimal withdrawal fees, fast deposits).
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November 16, 2017, 09:15:17 PM |
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Hi all,
I have been away a few days and I come back a lot has changed. Is MyBitcoinZ wallet ok to continue with?
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November 16, 2017, 09:24:36 PM |
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I had to reboot server guys, sorry about that... We found another block while reboot Today is very lucky day Glad this was normal maintenance. I had --eexit on so that panicked me for a while
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midvoc
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November 16, 2017, 09:34:37 PM |
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ye miningspeed is good - i third those comments - they always pay out.
The miningxyz is good as well - they always pay out what you are due.
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max1111
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November 16, 2017, 10:11:56 PM |
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Tell me how to use my wallet. Where do I install it? On a computer or on a flash card? What to do with a private key?
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rizzman10000
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November 16, 2017, 11:16:08 PM |
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Hello Guys, So here we go. From a decent size miner perspective - my inputs. It is not a secret, we miners we don't go well with devs. Mainly, bc every coin released it had a lot of pre-mined coins, sometime up to 60% or any other various fees. In the meantime, the only reason why, coins succeed is thanks to the miner community. All new coins when hit the exchanges are valued a lot, then the devs sale value go down. They profit, and we collect bits and pieces. But is us in the meantime, we mine, confirm the transactions, participate in community, create buzz. Each time believing, we are on something good. Some of us sale, some keep the coins. As for rewards, yea we get good returns in the beginning but sh...t afterwards. That is why we switch to new coins. The mining equipment cost a lot, running costs are big. There is money there, but the devs make a bigger chunk. Personally, i don’t think my profits should go according to whattomine. Pre-determined by algo. i remember, when panda coin came along in the first day you could do 20btc. now days with equihash f...all. btc gold came out it gave me 2x profit on paper (now the coin is falling and i can’t transfer to any exchange bc they don’t accept mined coins yet - fuc...n jock. It is a long time I advocate for thru miner’s coin. this coin has a huge potential, but. 1. has to totally decentralized. every person in charge of a project must have a backup and backup need backup as well. (we know that part already) 2. no equipment that could be seized by gouvs or hack. 3. miners most be important part of your system. don’t do like Mr.Butalik did. we did make his coin great and now he would like go POS bc he cares about environment BS. 4 don’t go spent donations, and fetch for sh...y exchanges. We all know they are all crap. Everyone in crypto will tell you what you need bitrex or polo and that is it. You get there, when millions of miners will mine your coin, and put pression on them. people that don’t mine buy from sht ..y exchanges, at cheap price and keep coins until hits the moon. 1-2 years of waiting and your 10000$ investment will be valued at 1mil and you won’t have to work ever again. trust me is not a bad trade, just ask your parents or look at them after 40-50 years of working for nothing. 5. payments from donations for any project should be send not from zwallet but the transparent one. 6. latest ethereum fiasco - same wallet controlled or needing approval to send founds by 3 people. can we develop that it will be good for business. 7. using zwallet we can send totally encrypted messages for a small fee (obviously this app/wallet needs to be made for the phone) We need to brain storm: 1. what to do, to keep small miner to mine your coin and smile from one ear to the other. 2. what to do, to keep the midsize from switching to other coins My solutions are 1. steady rewards. We all know when you mine 10 coins per day at 0.1 btc you make 1btc. Few hours later big farm jumps in the pool (most of them are programed) mines for 5min. diff goes up and they move to other coin. They sale your coin on exchange and don’t care about bringing the market price down. And we small miners, support and mine the coin for hours because of the high diff to collect 2 coins at half price (the price won’t go 5x because the diff is high). Then the diff goes down and then the sh...t restarts. You can ask any miner or pool operator in this forum and all will tell you this is the case. ok this coin is fast 2.5min but still. I belive we should: ban nicehash etc guys. or open ONLY official pools to give people choice. Only those pools will be able to mine this coin, and those pools won’t accept any gazillion hashrates. Or the other option is change the diff like btc ones every 2 weeks. I am business owner for past 15 years and this is my hobby. Any input accepted
Totally agree... And x1000 to: We all know when you mine 10 coins per day at 0.1 btc you make 1btc. Few hours later big farm jumps in the pool (most of them are programed) mines for 5min. diff goes up and they move to other coin. They sale your coin on exchange and don’t care about bringing the market price down. And we small miners, support and mine the coin for hours because of the high diff to collect 2 coins at half price (the price won’t go 5x because the diff is high). Then the diff goes down and then the sh...t restarts. You can ask any miner or pool operator in this forum and all will tell you this is the case. ok this coin is fast 2.5min but still. I belive we should: ban nicehash etc guys. or open ONLY official pools to give people choice. Only those pools will be able to mine this coin, and those pools won’t accept any gazillion hashrates. Or the other option is change the diff like btc ones every 2 weeks.
+1 This is what BzcZ team need to read. If we wanna make this coin grow we need to remove those 100 ks/s miner's. If that's possible. This is not possible. In order to do this, you would need to CENTRALIZE pools, which defeats the purpose of DECENTRALIZATION... Free market is simply something that everyone is going to have to deal with. There will be big fish that hop in as soon as the price spikes. the best thing you can do against this is mine when nobody else is mining. This is how Bitcoin Millionaires were made, in fact look at ANY of the old coins FTC, VERT, Monero, Heavycoin...etc. They all went through periods of nothing happening, nobody wanting them, then one day dev's drop some groundbreaking news on everyones head on and the next thing you know everyone wants to be millionaires. Take it from someone who's watch this shit from the beginning(Search Rizzman1000 under bitcoin talk), who sold too soon, stopped mining too soon, and missed the chance to retire early. If you want to win at this game. Mine (or Buy), Hold, Donate, Wait. You will make money. Its just a matter of time.
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November 16, 2017, 11:38:13 PM |
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Hello Guys, So here we go. From a decent size miner perspective - my inputs. It is not a secret, we miners we don't go well with devs. Mainly, bc every coin released it had a lot of pre-mined coins, sometime up to 60% or any other various fees. In the meantime, the only reason why, coins succeed is thanks to the miner community. All new coins when hit the exchanges are valued a lot, then the devs sale value go down. They profit, and we collect bits and pieces. But is us in the meantime, we mine, confirm the transactions, participate in community, create buzz. Each time believing, we are on something good. Some of us sale, some keep the coins. As for rewards, yea we get good returns in the beginning but sh...t afterwards. That is why we switch to new coins. The mining equipment cost a lot, running costs are big. There is money there, but the devs make a bigger chunk. Personally, i don’t think my profits should go according to whattomine. Pre-determined by algo. i remember, when panda coin came along in the first day you could do 20btc. now days with equihash f...all. btc gold came out it gave me 2x profit on paper (now the coin is falling and i can’t transfer to any exchange bc they don’t accept mined coins yet - fuc...n jock. It is a long time I advocate for thru miner’s coin. this coin has a huge potential, but. 1. has to totally decentralized. every person in charge of a project must have a backup and backup need backup as well. (we know that part already) 2. no equipment that could be seized by gouvs or hack. 3. miners most be important part of your system. don’t do like Mr.Butalik did. we did make his coin great and now he would like go POS bc he cares about environment BS. 4 don’t go spent donations, and fetch for sh...y exchanges. We all know they are all crap. Everyone in crypto will tell you what you need bitrex or polo and that is it. You get there, when millions of miners will mine your coin, and put pression on them. people that don’t mine buy from sht ..y exchanges, at cheap price and keep coins until hits the moon. 1-2 years of waiting and your 10000$ investment will be valued at 1mil and you won’t have to work ever again. trust me is not a bad trade, just ask your parents or look at them after 40-50 years of working for nothing. 5. payments from donations for any project should be send not from zwallet but the transparent one. 6. latest ethereum fiasco - same wallet controlled or needing approval to send founds by 3 people. can we develop that it will be good for business. 7. using zwallet we can send totally encrypted messages for a small fee (obviously this app/wallet needs to be made for the phone) We need to brain storm: 1. what to do, to keep small miner to mine your coin and smile from one ear to the other. 2. what to do, to keep the midsize from switching to other coins My solutions are 1. steady rewards. We all know when you mine 10 coins per day at 0.1 btc you make 1btc. Few hours later big farm jumps in the pool (most of them are programed) mines for 5min. diff goes up and they move to other coin. They sale your coin on exchange and don’t care about bringing the market price down. And we small miners, support and mine the coin for hours because of the high diff to collect 2 coins at half price (the price won’t go 5x because the diff is high). Then the diff goes down and then the sh...t restarts. You can ask any miner or pool operator in this forum and all will tell you this is the case. ok this coin is fast 2.5min but still. I belive we should: ban nicehash etc guys. or open ONLY official pools to give people choice. Only those pools will be able to mine this coin, and those pools won’t accept any gazillion hashrates. Or the other option is change the diff like btc ones every 2 weeks. I am business owner for past 15 years and this is my hobby. Any input accepted
Thank you for your post. It's good to have you around BTW can I re-post this over at FB?
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November 16, 2017, 11:48:58 PM |
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We have all zcash features included as BTCZ is zcash fork. We also recommend to keep coins in private addresses. Thank you for the clarification. How do I create a paper wallet to be sure, that I'm able delete the wallet.dat file of BitcoinZ Wallet for Windows from my PC?
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rizzman10000
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November 17, 2017, 01:16:38 AM |
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Hi all,
I have been away a few days and I come back a lot has changed. Is MyBitcoinZ wallet ok to continue with?
No, you need to change to the windows wallet before the 28th , as the person running the online wallet is closing it down.
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Turgz
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November 17, 2017, 01:20:45 AM |
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It's actually not true. Look at the price. It's not the right one. At the moment BTCZ's trading at .0000049 not .00000079. It's almost half of it. It may go up in the future but if you want to sell it right away, you will make half the amount. Just realize that myself.
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November 17, 2017, 02:16:07 AM |
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New pool is donating! luckpool.org Donating Mining Pools Another great news! We already have 1.94 M BTCZ coins in donation address! At current price it is about 1 BTC.After we back to real price 0.00000150 - 0.00000200 we will have about 4+ BTC for new exchange listing! https://explorer.bitcoinz.site/address/t1fHHnAXxoPWGY77sG5Zw2sFfGUTpW6BcSZYou can also donate BTC to: 1BzBfikDBGyWXGnPPk58nVVBppzfcGGXMx Cryptotrex is going to organize voting for new exchange. We believe that community will vote for the best option. Cryptorex is volunteer & author of the white paper. He is going to organize decentralized teams. All new independent teams are welcome. Everyone can help, start working independently and join anytime. All bad actors who want to change consensus are banned here. Hello, when you choose the right amount of BTCZ, are you going to sell the coins? this will bring down the price?
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