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September 19, 2017, 06:34:35 PM
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If some country use DPI(Deep Packet Inspection)to block the BTC's peer-to-peer info link between their contry and the world, how would their miners and wallets to do to connet to the worldwide-main-BTC-network?

Does we will lost the peoples at that country at all?

And if more and more country use this tech to block the BTC's network,
And we have nothing to do,
Does BTC's fate is will only lived in all people's heart?


 
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September 19, 2017, 07:20:30 PM
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If there is enough incentive, it can be done like a torrent crackdown. But even then there are tools like VPN to bypass.

yes, offcause the situation is all known VPNs are all baned at first.
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September 19, 2017, 08:43:09 PM
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You can use over TOR that would avoid the block. If TOR was not blocked!
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September 19, 2017, 10:17:23 PM
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You can use over TOR that would avoid the block. If TOR was not blocked!

Tor is pretty hard to block. Even China is having a hard time doing it and they have thousands of people employed on trying to block all of the bridges. It will be even harder with IPv6 probably.

There are also Blockstream satellites by now that cover almost the whole world. Only Asia left, should be finished by the end of the year. These satellites freely broadcast the blockchain and you can by all of the equipment for like 100$.
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Quote from: aleksej996 link=top you 2191850.msg22014738#msg22014ate=1505859443
You can use over TOR that would avoid the block. If TOR was not blocked!

Tor is pretty hard to block. Even China is having a hard time doing it and they have thousands of people employed on trying to block all of the bridges. It will be even harder with IPv6 probably.

There are also Blockstream satellites by now that cover almost the whole world. Only Asia left, should be finished by the end of the year. These satellites freely broadcast the blockchain and you can by all of the equipment for like 100$.

What an interesting price . I read it's one way receive system though and basically for downloading Blockchain.

As for VPN.. OP wonder if you could research on decentralized VPN.. heard it's hard to censor .
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September 20, 2017, 06:45:27 AM
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You can use over TOR that would avoid the block. If TOR was not blocked!

Tor is pretty hard to block. Even China is having a hard time doing it and they have thousands of people employed on trying to block all of the bridges. It will be even harder with IPv6 probably.

There are also Blockstream satellites by now that cover almost the whole world. Only Asia left, should be finished by the end of the year. These satellites freely broadcast the blockchain and you can by all of the equipment for like 100$.

The satellite is amazing. And the 100$ is kind for every one.
But I think not only needs downloading the signals from SAT, but also need uploading the data to the SAT. Does the price including the up-way equipment?
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September 20, 2017, 06:49:47 AM
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Quote from: aleksej996 link=top you 2191850.msg22014738#msg22014ate=1505859443
You can use over TOR that would avoid the block. If TOR was not blocked!

Tor is pretty hard to block. Even China is having a hard time doing it and they have thousands of people employed on trying to block all of the bridges. It will be even harder with IPv6 probably.

There are also Blockstream satellites by now that cover almost the whole world. Only Asia left, should be finished by the end of the year. These satellites freely broadcast the blockchain and you can by all of the equipment for like 100$.

What an interesting price . I read it's one way receive system though and basically for downloading Blockchain.

As for VPN.. OP wonder if you could research on decentralized VPN.. heard it's hard to censor .

I think all VPN are not the finest solution. because Bitcoin must living by itslef. Not depending on any other systems.
Maybe bitcoin can using crypto-package to exchange P-to-P data.
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September 20, 2017, 10:36:03 AM
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You can use over TOR that would avoid the block. If TOR was not blocked!

Tor is pretty hard to block. Even China is having a hard time doing it and they have thousands of people employed on trying to block all of the bridges. It will be even harder with IPv6 probably.

There are also Blockstream satellites by now that cover almost the whole world. Only Asia left, should be finished by the end of the year. These satellites freely broadcast the blockchain and you can by all of the equipment for like 100$.

The satellite is amazing. And the 100$ is kind for every one.
But I think not only needs downloading the signals from SAT, but also need uploading the data to the SAT. Does the price including the up-way equipment?

As I understand, they don't do up. You couldn't upload even if you wanted to, they have their own transmitters for that.
I assume that the idea here was that it is simpler to bypass restrictions to upload then to download. If you are to post a transaction, you can just go to one of many sites and post the raw hex transaction and they will broadcast it to the network for you.
Also with the Lightning Network there will be off chain transactions for which you won't need to upload transactions to the blockchain, but will still need to download the blockchain for security reasons (to know if the other party closed a channel).
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September 20, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
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You only need to link multiple nodes to keep the blockchain updated. The Internet is one way to do this, but I believe that satellite alternatives are on the way. The main stimulus is not Bitcoin, but to avoid the censorship of YouTube and other media sites. I'm sure Bitcoin would integrate with that with no trouble.

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September 21, 2017, 04:48:29 AM
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there are always "options" to bypass any blockage.

one of them which is ofttimes used for bypassing DPI is using another layer of encryption. in simple terms you make your communication look like a simple HTTPs connection and there is no way any country can detect or block that without blocking all HTTPs websites such as banks websites,...
and you add that layer of encryption by adding a second layer of SSH tunnel.

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September 21, 2017, 04:59:27 AM
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If some country use DPI(Deep Packet Inspection)to block the BTC's peer-to-peer info link between their contry and the world, how would their miners and wallets to do to connet to the worldwide-main-BTC-network?

Does we will lost the peoples at that country at all?

And if more and more country use this tech to block the BTC's network,
And we have nothing to do,
Does BTC's fate is will only lived in all people's heart?


 

This is where online wallets are useful. Deep packet inspetion can't block online wallets. Plus if you change the ports that you normally use for Bitcoin. DPI doesn't stand a chance against that.

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