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September 22, 2017, 07:20:23 AM
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I don't believe that DPR (Ross Ulbricht) is Satoshi Nakamoto.
I read that Nakamoto is Japanese.
Also I saw few articles about Satoshi and there written that he from Australia.
My opinion Satoshi Nakamoto is fictitious character.
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September 22, 2017, 07:53:37 AM
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Hmmm... Thats a good theory ,its possible that Ross Ulbricht might be Satoshi Nakamoto but you have not provided enough information to prove it so this theory remains a theory with out a conclusive evidence.
btw you mentioned that most people assume that Satoshi Nakamoto is American, where did you read about that?
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September 22, 2017, 03:04:04 PM
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Only for the fact, that Ross posted his real name here on Bitcointalk, I would assume, that his OPSEC was on an extremely low level.

If Satoshi would have founded SilkRoad it would be functioning more like in the style of OpenBazaar. Not saying that Manfred Karrer is Satoshi.
Btw OP you said 'Most people can agree Satoshi is american'. Did you count or how do come to a conclusion like that? Many people actually think Satoshi is british, but a good opsec could include changing writing style, to let the people think he was british.

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 Many people actually think Satoshi is british, but a good opsec could include changing writing style, to let the people think he was british.

How about, the real truth, It is Satoshi Nakamoto who wrote a secret code to use some American spelling with his British spelling to confuse the people, so no body would be able to identify that indeed he is British. Now the OP saying that he think Ross Ulbricht the DPR could be Satoshi Nakamoto. Now I am Moses ! Bitcoin Moses ! I am the final Prophet of Bitcoin Profit. I am the one who never lie and cheat any one. I must tell the truth about the confusion that is floating regarding a question Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? But before that I am asking the clever or analytical researcher to find out why Ross Ulbricht and Jeff Garzik went to London in July 2005 together  and what they were doing there in Hanger Lane Acton ? Now, the true fact is Ross is not the only person who is DPR. DPR mean Dread Pirate Roberts. The truth is,  Ross was  the Boss or was not the Boss of the Dread Pirate Roberts that need to be identified first.

There after the question will come if he is the real impostor of the real Satoshi Nakamoto ? The real Satoshi Nakamoto is confused about Ross Ulbricht if whether he is the Boss of the Dread Pirate Roberts ? Let me say, about few Roberts here for your interest- 1. Mark Robert Karpeles, 2. Robert Richards, 3 Robert Michael, 4 Robert Guttmann, 5 Robert Craig Wright, 7Robert Vlad and so on. Here is my verdict that Ross Ulbricht is not the real Satoshi Nakamoto, the inventor of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology but he could one of the Robert Ross Ulbricht one of the DPRs.


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September 22, 2017, 03:35:47 PM
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I still believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is more than one person, some people said that he is British, some people said that he is American or Australia etc. One thing is sure there is no evidence that Satoshi is originally from those countries. However, I might agree that Satoshi is a skilled programmer but in creating a magnificent technology such a Bitcoin I think it would require a lot of people to realize this project, well just my thought.
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September 22, 2017, 03:57:00 PM
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I still believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is more than one person, some people said that he is British, some people said that he is American or Australia etc. One thing is sure there is no evidence that Satoshi is originally from those countries. However, I might agree that Satoshi is a skilled programmer but in creating a magnificent technology such a Bitcoin I think it would require a lot of people to realize this project, well just my thought.

I have to agree with you on this one. The creators of Bitcoin has a comprehensive knowledge of a bunch of technologies and

they combined all these concepts into one technology. This could only have come from the combined effort of a small group

of people. I think they brainstormed this technology and developed it in secret. They used one person as a spokesperson

for the group, but the idea was a collective effort.  Huh

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September 22, 2017, 05:18:48 PM
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I still believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is more than one person, some people said that he is British, some people said that he is American or Australia etc. One thing is sure there is no evidence that Satoshi is originally from those countries. However, I might agree that Satoshi is a skilled programmer but in creating a magnificent technology such a Bitcoin I think it would require a lot of people to realize this project, well just my thought.

I have to agree with you on this one. The creators of Bitcoin has a comprehensive knowledge of a bunch of technologies and

they combined all these concepts into one technology. This could only have come from the combined effort of a small group

of people. I think they brainstormed this technology and developed it in secret. They used one person as a spokesperson

for the group, but the idea was a collective effort.  Huh

You are wrong. Satoshi Nakamoto is a Digital Currency researcher since 1993. The idea of Bitcoin was not a collective efforts. Satoshi Nakamoto alone did most of the Bitcoin and Blockchain invention project work but he had to use his capacity to construct seven AI and few Cypherpunks came out of the blue and did the work according to his Bitcoin Dramas plan to help him. Most of them were NSA sponsored friendly hackers those who have hijacked the Bitcoin Project from Satoshi Nakamoto according to Roselyn Hamilton's statements, the personal secretary of Satoshi Nakamoto.  Ross Ulbricht was a NSA agent but become a believer in Bitcoin. That was his crime. He resigned from  the NSA and became a true Libertarian. But he was doing lots of other things that all together put him in prison for life. The real Satoshi Nakamoto knew his existence since June 2005 when he came to London to spy on Satoshi Nakamoto.

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September 22, 2017, 05:23:14 PM
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Today I was reading some theories about who is Satoshi Nakamoto, and it came to me, that DPR (Ross Ulbricht, founder of Silkroad) is Satoshi Nakamoto

Most people can agree that Satoshi:
* is American
* is a skilled programmer
* knows a lot about cryptography and economics

Guess what, DPR studied economics extensively in college, and we all know DPR can code and have a keen interest in cryptography.

The biggest hint is the perfectly lined up timeline:
The last time Satoshi was involved in Bitcoin was around January 2011, Silkroad launched in February 2011. So if DPR was Satoshi, this would explain why Satoshi suddenly backed off from the Bitcoin development, he was too busy developing and running Silkroad!

Then I digged a little more and found:
DPR moved 1000 BTC that was mined in January 2009, which can only belong to Satoshi or Hal Finney. We know Hal Finney isn't DPR, so there's only one possibility left.

Also this would explain why after DPR was arrested, Satoshi's Bitcoins were never sold or moved, Satoshi himself never showed up anywhere. Because DPR lost his freedom and is rotting in a prison cell.

DPR (Ross Ulbricht) is Satoshi Nakamoto, he was arrested and sentenced to life in prison not just for running Silkroad, it is for something much more.

Cool theory. In my view, he must be someone that is either in jail for life, or is dead, and ((they)) know for a fact that this is the case, otherwise they would have not appointed the Satoshi sockpuppet Craig Wright to try to influence the masses into thinking he is the real Satoshi. Why would anyone play the role of Satoshi unless he knew the real Satoshi wasn't going to show up and leave you looking like the biggest idiot on earth?

So like I said, Satoshi is in jail or dead, pick one.
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September 22, 2017, 05:35:08 PM
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DPR ordered to kill someone as being documented by the agents. not sure who to believe but that's satoshi who is a geek turned kingpin? yeah right.
i would probably believe if satoshi was someone who is rich and famous already and knows how to value privacy after learning fame isn't something to keep..


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September 22, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
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The biggest hint is the perfectly lined up timeline:
The last time Satoshi was involved in Bitcoin was around January 2011, Silkroad launched in February 2011. So if DPR was Satoshi, this would explain why Satoshi suddenly backed off from the Bitcoin development, he was too busy developing and running Silkroad!


This is the only thing that makes slightly sense. With everything else you are mistaken I guess.

Nothing points to nakamoto being American. Also I'm pretty sure that Ulbricht does not have the technical skills needed to invent and develop Bitcoin.

Ulbricht however once said that he is not the original founder of Silk Road but that someone handed it over to him. What might be true (although not very likely) is that nakamoto is the founder of silk road but handed it over to other people later.
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September 22, 2017, 05:44:40 PM
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It's in every fuckin theory i read that X might be satoshi for Y reasons and all these theories stick together. I never read anything about satoshi being an actual group of people, tbh bitcoin is really harder to develop for a simple person. Secondly why are people obssessed with his/her/their identities, for all we know they want to hide, so let it be that way.

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September 22, 2017, 06:23:43 PM
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The biggest hint is the perfectly lined up timeline:
The last time Satoshi was involved in Bitcoin was around January 2011, Silkroad launched in February 2011. So if DPR was Satoshi, this would explain why Satoshi suddenly backed off from the Bitcoin development, he was too busy developing and running Silkroad!


This is the only thing that makes slightly sense. With everything else you are mistaken I guess.

Nothing points to nakamoto being American. Also I'm pretty sure that Ulbricht does not have the technical skills needed to invent and develop Bitcoin.

Ulbricht however once said that he is not the original founder of Silk Road but that someone handed it over to him. What might be true (although not very likely) is that nakamoto is the founder of silk road but handed it over to other people later.

The best evidence he could be American  is the timing of his message posts, which suggests he lived in the US-EST time zone or near to it (this would include the west coast of South America). Someone in Europe, Africa, Asia or Australia would have to have very odd sleep habits to explain the post history. This isn't proof of course, but is probably one of the better clues we have to go on.

DPR is clearly not Satoshi, at any rate. Very different worldview, and Satoshi was much more capable and mature in multiple ways.

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September 22, 2017, 06:35:32 PM
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This is probably the most absurd Satoshi Nakamoto theory I've read to date. If you really believe Satoshi created Bitcoin just for the underworld and black market usage, you are delusional. Being decentralized, SR and other markets began using Bitcoin as they saw the potential of being undercover without the use of Paypal/Liberty Reserve (back then) or any other payment processor. This doesn't mean Satoshi is Ross because for someone as brilliant as Satoshi, he wouldn't have just create a currency just for the sake of illegal trades.
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September 22, 2017, 06:42:49 PM
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I really can't understand why everybody wants to reveal the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. I don't think that matters that much, the most important thing is that he has created Bitcoin and it has made a big success because people use it and are happy with it and it has changed the future of finances. Probably that makes Satoshi happy too. So.just let him live in peace and quiet, far from publicity if he has already chosen to do so.

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September 23, 2017, 04:48:31 AM
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I don't believe that DPR (Ross Ulbricht) is Satoshi Nakamoto.
I read that Nakamoto is Japanese.
Also I saw few articles about Satoshi and there written that he from Australia.
My opinion Satoshi Nakamoto is fictitious character.
Nobody know that who is Satoshi Nakamoto because he is unknown anonymous nobody can find him nobody can reach to him because he has privacy and he know how to hide himself better.
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September 23, 2017, 05:01:02 AM
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It seems pretty obvious at this point that satoshi is not a single dude. much like vitalik recently communicated, designing something like this requires expertise in multiple disciplines of study. this is way more than just economics, its more than programming too. it incorporates some civics, and a little philosophy. i dont think a single guy named satoshi, or even a guy that took the handle, would be able to accomplish something this nuanced. i do think the original idea, in a very basic form, might have been fleshed out by a single guy.

but even then, if it had to go through development by a team, at what point does it grow beyond the prototype into a new thing?
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It seems pretty obvious at this point that satoshi is not a single dude. much like vitalik recently communicated, designing something like this requires expertise in multiple disciplines of study. this is way more than just economics, its more than programming too. it incorporates some civics, and a little philosophy. i dont think a single guy named satoshi, or even a guy that took the handle, would be able to accomplish something this nuanced. i do think the original idea, in a very basic form, might have been fleshed out by a single guy.

but even then, if it had to go through development by a team, at what point does it grow beyond the prototype into a new thing?

The original satoshi client code was clearly written by one person, the coding style consistency, with all the same mistakes, is clear as day to any seasoned programmer.

Satoshi didn't invent all these by himself though, he was standing on the shoulder of giants. He was heavily influenced by Adam Back and Wei Dai's earlier work. He basically combined Adam Back and Wei Dai's work together, and added a little bit of his own flavour(the blockchain).

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I have a hard time believing this. Why would Satoshi, who seems to have good intentions, create Bitcoin and immediately start a drug/illegal operation with it? I think some criminals just took advantage of its security, that is all.



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I have a hard time believing this. Why would Satoshi, who seems to have good intentions, create Bitcoin and immediately start a drug/illegal operation with it? I think some criminals just took advantage of its security, that is all.

The intentions/interests of Bitcoin and Silkroad are highly aligned, it's no accident Bitcoin has become the de facto currency of Darknet Markets. Silkroad is not illegal everywhere, and its intentions can be argued as good, I don't think the original Bitcoin community had any hate for silkroad at all, actually I'm pretty sure 90% of old timers liked silkroad, a lot. I mean BitInstant's Charlie Shrem even went to jail for helping silkroad launder money.

It almost as if Satoshi created Bitcoin specifically for Darknet Markets. I mean Darknet transactions are almost 100% done in crypto-currency nowadays.

Also, do you not find it strange that both Satoshi and DPR use TOR to hide their identity 100% of the time? This is not something done by anyone else in the Bitcoin development space. Not Hal Finney, not Gavin Andressen, none! No other developer in Bitcoin space are afraid to show their own identity, in fact most are proud to get their name out there. Only Satoshi hid his identity and use TOR 100% of the time. If he was DPR, then that perfectly explains why he had to do that.

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