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September 23, 2017, 02:10:05 PM
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Hm According to the Signatum thread it is a "fairly launched" coin  Roll Eyes...
OCminer listed the coin... Roll Eyes
The coin is listed on exchange "cryptopia"  Roll Eyes
And I noticed some sockpuppets of user "Digitalindustry"  Roll Eyes (for the people who don't know who is "digitalindustry" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781954.0)

I think I can add Signatum to my list. It would not surprise me if Signatum is from the same copy coin cloner:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1966967.0
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September 23, 2017, 02:52:27 PM
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It would not surprise me if Signatum is from the same copy coin cloner:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1966967.0

It wouldn't surprise me either. Many of the shill accounts on that thread have similar 'tastes' in clonecoins it seems. Although some of their sock-puppetry is a bit lazy, take a look at this account created solely to create a raft of pump posts in a period of only 12 hours:
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C'mon guys.. sell sell sell, let me keep getting these cheap coins and return a huge profit Cheesy
Just funny how ppl get scared and sell out cheap Cheesy  more for us I guess >.<

It actually looks like some ppl is artificially trying to dump the prices by inputting smaller and smaller sales orders to dump the prices and get ppl scared to the sell at these cheap prices. I'm not complaining Cheesy

Hehehe, Believe me mate.. If I had more money to invest at the moment I would definitely buy more coins. it will skyrocket pretty within very short time.
It won't be this low for long thou Smiley
Just look at the graphs, the price of the coin shows every sign to flatten out and then swing back up now.

The spiraling downward price was caused of false rumors and people dumping, The price will be at least double within very short time.


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September 23, 2017, 07:56:54 PM
Last edit: September 23, 2017, 09:10:26 PM by silvermetal
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It would not surprise me if Signatum is from the same copy coin cloner:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1966967.0

It wouldn't surprise me either. Many of the shill accounts on that thread have similar 'tastes' in clonecoins it seems. Although some of their sock-puppetry is a bit lazy, take a look at this account created solely to create a raft of pump posts in a period of only 12 hours:
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C'mon guys.. sell sell sell, let me keep getting these cheap coins and return a huge profit Cheesy
Just funny how ppl get scared and sell out cheap Cheesy  more for us I guess >.<

It actually looks like some ppl is artificially trying to dump the prices by inputting smaller and smaller sales orders to dump the prices and get ppl scared to the sell at these cheap prices. I'm not complaining Cheesy

Hehehe, Believe me mate.. If I had more money to invest at the moment I would definitely buy more coins. it will skyrocket pretty within very short time.
It won't be this low for long thou Smiley
Just look at the graphs, the price of the coin shows every sign to flatten out and then swing back up now.

The spiraling downward price was caused of false rumors and people dumping, The price will be at least double within very short time.


No doubt, "Thedudemeister" = Digitalindustry (DI) Wink

I scrolled a little bit through the Signatum thread and found many typical DI sockpuppets.
Here another one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg21078520#msg21078520
or this one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg22147629#msg22147629

Compare writing style of "habeas_corpus" and  "shankar94" for example with these posts (scroll up and down to see more posts of him on the same page):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241445.msg2561719#msg2561719

I still vote this one as the most stupidest sockpuppet of DI ever:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241445.msg2581363#msg2581363

To clarify, DI is not the copy coin cloner. That is account user "Signatum".
Account user Signatum cooperates closely with DI, who scams his copied coins. DI lives in Australia (maybe that explains his word choice like "mate").
For some coins the copy coin cloner and DI share their account (for example for quarkcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg8810554#msg8810554).

For Chaincoin and UNO the copy coin cloner use another (I think German) scammer, who also creates dozens of sockpuppets to cheer for his coin.


Edit:

In this thread he also posts with sockpuppets:
"Brunosa": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2198496.msg22100194#msg22100194
And "Epicyclic"  see above
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September 23, 2017, 09:02:04 PM
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In this thread he also posts with sockpuppets:
"Brunosa": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2198496.msg22100194#msg22100194
And "Epicyclic"  see above
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Oh well, guess we are cut from the same cloth then, you and I.

I am a sockpuppet, and you are a cocksock.

I have a hand up my ass, you have a cock in yours. Horses for courses.

Anyway big favor to ask, could you be ever so kind as to leave me negative trust rating old bean, I am not sure one will sleep very well tonight unless you do. Wink
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September 23, 2017, 09:13:53 PM
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In this thread he also posts with sockpuppets:
"Brunosa": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2198496.msg22100194#msg22100194
And "Epicyclic"  see above


Oh well, guess we are cut from the same cloth then, you and I.

I am a sockpuppet, and you are a cocksock.

I have a hand up my ass, you have a cock in yours. Horses for courses.

Anyway big favor to ask, could you be ever so kind as to leave me negative trust rating old bean, I am not sure one will sleep very well tonight unless you do. Wink

Lol DI
If you talk to me like that I always confuse you with Spoetnik Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833442.msg9362843#msg9362843
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September 23, 2017, 09:17:57 PM
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Lol....scam or not I made a small fortune mining it when it first came out. I still hold a good amount in case it ever matures into something worth having. Holding pays off 90% of the time, even if it's a dead end project.
That's good for you, but there's always people who make money on Ponzi schemes, but
only in the beginning.  After that, everyone loses except for the perpetrator of said Ponzi.  So
your argument carries no weight.  Cryptodevil is probably right, this is a scam.  Have to say,
though, I've never even heard of Signatum.  Nor do I put any money in ICOs, even if I do rent
out my signature for them occasionally.

Best thing anyone can do is ignore that whole altcoin ANN section.  It's nothing but a festering
load of dung that attracts flies (noobs).
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September 23, 2017, 09:31:03 PM
Last edit: September 23, 2017, 10:35:58 PM by Epicyclic
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In this thread he also posts with sockpuppets:
"Brunosa": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2198496.msg22100194#msg22100194
And "Epicyclic"  see above


Oh well, guess we are cut from the same cloth then, you and I.

I am a sockpuppet, and you are a cocksock.

I have a hand up my ass, you have a cock in yours. Horses for courses.

Anyway big favor to ask, could you be ever so kind as to leave me negative trust rating old bean, I am not sure one will sleep very well tonight unless you do. Wink

Lol DI
If you talk to me like that I always confuse you with Spoetnik Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833442.msg9362843#msg9362843

Yes that is good, I suppose if you are being referred to as a cock, eating cocks, or possessing one in your anus a lot, you may need to re-evaluate if there is any truth to it, however, I need negative trust, would you be so kind as to leave me some, please.
i would like to be the most villainous account holder on Shitcointalk.

It is my destiny.
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September 24, 2017, 03:11:41 AM
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Cryptovore was a user at the launch and now he is mentioned as a team member, due to his contribution to the project.
I don't know what kind of scamming it is, LOL.
This kinda really hard delirium.
And whats wrong with his blog? Crypto-blog, launched 2017-06-07 ( 07 june i guess), at the beginning of crypto-gold rush, it's a crime?
there is  my answers to this guy at the signatum thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg22141309#msg22141309
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg22143926#msg22143926
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg22144325#msg22144325
Still without any reasonable counter arguments.
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September 25, 2017, 04:05:45 PM
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I'm starting to think you are right, i'm a guy that is hard to convince me of anything. I feel something is off here with SIGT.
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September 26, 2017, 03:09:55 PM
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Dump it  while you can
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September 28, 2017, 09:49:28 AM
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i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

i defended signatum but now i understand this is a scam... i sell all good luck gut and good music

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD5qNkPUJGNSjXb04ZQIgbg

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September 28, 2017, 12:21:13 PM
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i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

Are you saying this picture is used by the Signatum dev on a fake profile?

Do you have a link for it?


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September 28, 2017, 12:53:14 PM
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Thanks, another coin to stay clear of, a lot of pump and dump scams as of late.
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September 28, 2017, 02:30:09 PM
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i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

Are you saying this picture is used by the Signatum dev on a fake profile?

Do you have a link for it?



yes this imgae is used by dev on discord and telegram...

https://i.imgur.com/XN2k5Lz.jpg

now i'm banned just for ask.. and that guy is  a dev and my question is: why use a image of unknow people Huh?

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September 28, 2017, 02:45:16 PM
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i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

Are you saying this picture is used by the Signatum dev on a fake profile?

Do you have a link for it?



yes this imgae is used by dev on discord and telegram...



now i'm banned just for ask.. and that guy is  a dev and my question is: why use a image of unknow people Huh?

sorry for my english

LOL, it looks like he is actually pretending to be James Hinton by answering you that he also plays piano and guitar.

The actual musician @therangejames is not 'skankhunt42'.


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September 28, 2017, 02:47:52 PM
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i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

Are you saying this picture is used by the Signatum dev on a fake profile?

Do you have a link for it?



yes this imgae is used by dev on discord and telegram...
sseee my old post.. some even against you



now i'm banned just for ask.. and that guy is  a dev and my question is: why use a image of unknow people Huh?

sorry for my english

LOL, it looks like he is actually pretending to be James Hinton by answering you that he also plays piano and guitar.

The actual musician @therangejames is not 'skankhunt42'.



yep and i hate this shit becaouse i belive in sigt..

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September 28, 2017, 11:50:35 PM
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Avoid at all costs and, more importantly, learn to spot the signs of these scams, they aren't exactly subtle but newbie FOMO and inexperience means that these scumbags are often able to fool many into parting with their bitcoin to buy or mine-and-hold these useless coins.


I invested so much into SIGT, Look how low it is still, 900 Satoshi? Why didn't you tell me it was a SCAM sooner cryptodevil? The only ones that got richer is the DEV's.
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Avoid at all costs and, more importantly, learn to spot the signs of these scams, they aren't exactly subtle but newbie FOMO and inexperience means that these scumbags are often able to fool many into parting with their bitcoin to buy or mine-and-hold these useless coins.


I invested so much into SIGT, Look how low it is still, 900 Satoshi? Why didn't you tell me it was a SCAM sooner cryptodevil? The only ones that got richer is the DEV's.

I responded to a DM somebody sent me alerting to the fact that this clonecoin had been fleecing ill-informed newbies, by investigating and posting my findings immediately in order to warn them. There are so many scam operations running in this industry that it is nigh-on impossible to know of them all and, as you can see in the Signatum thread, and most other scams I have posted warnings in, the response from the fanboi and scammer shill accounts is usually an aggressive attempt to keep burying these warnings as quickly as possible, requiring even more of my time and attention maintaining a persistent presence for these advisory posts in order to ensure the majority of victims are alerted to the facts.

Scammers are highly motivated to discredit and demean any threat to their ability to continue defrauding their victims. Add to that the mix of newbie fanbois who convince themselves it cannot be a scam because they've invested so much money into it already, and the chorus of 'shoot the messenger' is supported even further, adding to the difficulty in promoting the truth within such threads.

This is why there is little point in trying to tag all scams, because there would only be time to post the occasional warning in each, which would be swiftly buried.

Everybody wants to believe they can get in on the ground floor of a coin which will 'moon' to stratospheric values so they can get rich without having to do anything more than click on a few exchange trades. If the coin has no unique and innovative tech which serves to provide a new way to solve an existing problem, or doesn't have a viable commercial platform and economic model, it has no value whatsoever and is being traded solely on speculative hype and lies, constantly looking for 'greater fools' to sell on to.

As i said, learn to spot the signs, they aren't difficult to see. You just have to take off your FOMO-tinted spectacles.

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September 29, 2017, 08:34:46 AM
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i predict the future...
now price is 830 after 3 days go to 970 1100 beacouse a good news of wallet or maket place..
3 day at that interval of price and go down again to 800 and so on untile a new good news for market place or web wallet ... and again again
after this there is a jolly masternode if the waters become agitated. all fine itself
master node with not to hight an not to love price .. maybe 50000 sigt and price go up..and when down again beacouse al fine itself and people don't invest in it.



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September 29, 2017, 09:19:31 AM
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i predict the future...
now price is 830 after 3 days go to 970 1100 beacouse a good news of wallet or maket place..

Actually there is little reason to believe the scammers would now risk the bitcoin needed to artificially lift the market that high again. Their scheme has been exposed and apart from a few fanbois they might be able to con into believing it is still legit, they've run out of free space to operate unchallenged.

This means they would have to be willing to risk buying back in to the market with bitcoin that might just be dumped on in a panic sell by those still left holding worthless bags of coin.

I don't think there's much time left before they exit the scam with something like, "Due to all the FUD we've decided to quit this project because we can't be expected to work under these conditions...etc." before firing up one of the other coins they've been keeping on ice during this period and promoting it under new forum accounts as the next big 'innovative' load of bollocks.


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