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July 11, 2018, 08:31:39 PM
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I am one of the non-believers of God. I believe only in myself and what I do I think people only think about God when they are helpless or they do not have a proof of something. You can see the science or any theory which you like otherwise whenever someone cannot explain something then they just simply turn that towards the term God. We are on this planet called earth because of an accident if we were not here then maybe that asteroid can struct to any other planet and we are not alive here to talk about this.  Is it hard to believe that that type of accident never happens and you believe that someone got caught helped us to avoid that accident I call that foolish?

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August 01, 2018, 02:02:13 PM
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I believe the king of kings exist because he is the greatest and he would continue to be
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August 01, 2018, 02:18:48 PM
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I am one of the non-believers of God. I believe only in myself and what I do I think people only think about God when they are helpless or they do not have a proof of something. You can see the science or any theory which you like otherwise whenever someone cannot explain something then they just simply turn that towards the term God. We are on this planet called earth because of an accident if we were not here then maybe that asteroid can struct to any other planet and we are not alive here to talk about this.  Is it hard to believe that that type of accident never happens and you believe that someone got caught helped us to avoid that accident I call that foolish?
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I'm not sure that you fully answered the question. I think there are two different ways to talk about non-believers. Some people just don't believe that God exists. Some people are very sure that "He" does not exist. There is a difference between the lack of belief and the belief that there is no God. The original post was talking about those that believe God is fictitious. What proof do you have that there is no God? How can you be so sure of that?
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August 02, 2018, 08:17:58 AM
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For every living thing, there is a creator. Our invention is technology, and Gods invention is us. But many people will say that because they have never seen any evidence to suggest that gods are not fictional, and it seems that neither have atheists, because none of the reasons they use to justify their faith comes close to being evidence, or even particularly reasonable.
And their conviction is further reinforced by the way that some atheists regard unbelief, or the belief in different gods to their own, as deserving of violent punishment. this makes many wonder why they're so afraid of disbelief.
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August 22, 2018, 09:31:06 PM
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Heres a scale of faith Dawkins created, I think it will help your thread OP
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1. Strong theist. 100% probability of God. In the words of C.G. Jung: "I do not believe, I know."
2. De facto theist. Very high probability but short of 100%. "I don't know for certain, but I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption that he is there."
3. Leaning towards theism. Higher than 50% but not very high. "I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God."
4. Completely impartial. Exactly 50%. "God's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable."
5. Leaning towards atheism. Lower than 50% but not very low. "I do not know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be skeptical."
6. De facto atheist. Very low probability, but short of zero. "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."
7. Strong atheist. "I know there is no God, with the same conviction as Jung knows there is one."
I think both stance 1 and 7 is completely irrational

I prefer to take each god claim as a separate issue.

I am a 7 in respect to the old gods, zeus/odin, loki, thor, athena, et al.  I believe there is zero chance any of them exist.

I am a 7 in respect to any specific western god claim I have heard.  This list includes God (with a big G to steal that name too), Allah, Yahweh/Jehovah/יהוה, Elohim/אֱלֹהִים, et al.  These gods are all self-contradictory if you read their books.  There is The Problem of Evil, and many other issues that western religions have no good answer for.

I am a 7 in respect to the specific Hindu gods if taken literally, though I don't know if Hindu's view Shiva etc, as literal or metaphor for human behavior.  I suppose if it is a metaphor, then it isn't really a god, so no point giving a metaphor a rating.

The only description of a god that makes any sense to me is the generic eastern belief common to Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.  Basically, god splits into zillions of pieces which is the substance that everything in the universe is made from.  Each and everything in the universe is a little piece of god exploring the rest of the universe.  There is no real point to it other than eternity is boring without something to do.

I'd actually give this a 3 on the Dawkins scale.  It certainly makes more sense than any other explanation I've heard

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August 23, 2018, 07:25:49 PM
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If God created bisexuals, does that made God bi-curious?
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August 23, 2018, 07:32:07 PM
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Since most of the topics here are mostly about religion, i too would like to create a topic with regards to this.

I would like to question those who consider God as something that is purely fictional. Why did you arrive to this kind of conclusion? Do you have any proofs as to why God is not real? If so, then how could humans existed ? Do you think we came from a single tiny organism? Which through time had landed in this perfectly habitual planet and started to grew body parts?

Im just curious and wanted to hear their side on this

i considered god and religion as purely fictional because it made sense that it was an abused tool for power grabbers. and war mongerers.

life is a nightmare for us as we have to constantly do decisions based on things we dont know.

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August 24, 2018, 03:19:38 AM
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Since most of the topics here are mostly about religion, i too would like to create a topic with regards to this.

I would like to question those who consider God as something that is purely fictional. Why did you arrive to this kind of conclusion? Do you have any proofs as to why God is not real? If so, then how could humans existed ? Do you think we came from a single tiny organism? Which through time had landed in this perfectly habitual planet and started to grew body parts?

Im just curious and wanted to hear their side on this

For me it is whether or not a specific God claim has met its burden of proof.  It is not up to me to prove that each of the thousands of god myths are false, it is up to them to prove they are true.  I do not believe any of them have come close.

I don't believe in things unless there is evidence or a logical reason to believe in it.  Some people believe in fairies, but I don't see any evidence for them.  Same goes for gods.

Most people don't believe in Zeus or Thor or any of the old gods... I simply take this 1 step further
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