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September 25, 2017, 10:34:14 PM
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WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING

SCAMMERS USERNAMES:

Vod & Lauda  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=101872)

Laudas REAL FEEDBACK - https://imgur.com/a/7vwYJ
Vods REAL FEEDBACK - https://imgur.com/a/169My

You have to click the little "Show ratings" button in the middle of the page to see these comments! Not easy for new users to pick up on it. It appears as if these two users are old, reputable and trusted. But just look at what 99% of their actual feedback says. They are scum bags to say the least.
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These "reputable" forum members are using their seasoned, trusted accounts to scam new members in several different ways. They have stolen Antminer D3s from a new user last week as part of a group effort - they talked the new user into shipping them D3s with payment being sent when the miners were received. Of course the new member never received his money for the miners - now he lost 2 x Antminer D3.

They also use their negative feedbacks to extort members into paying them to fix it. The moderators on this forum have been notified about these scammers many times. It seems the forum mods (just old seasoned users like them) are in on it too. It's a coordinated effort to say the least.

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Please don't take my word for it. Do yourself a favor and research these two users yourself. The things you will find that they have done are outrageous. To think they are still allowed on this board is absurd.

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If you have been scammed, extorted or otherwise defrauded by either of these users please send an email to:

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September 25, 2017, 11:00:19 PM
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Those "feedbacks" are called "untrusted" and are hidden by default for a reason: THEY SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED.

If you really check those feedbacks instead of just spreading nonsense, you would see that all of them are comming from scammers/spammers that got tagged by Lauda/Vod and now are retaliating with false feedbacks. You probably did the same, which is the reason why you made this post.

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September 25, 2017, 11:24:21 PM
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Those "feedbacks" are called "untrusted" and are hidden by default for a reason: THEY SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED.

If you really check those feedbacks instead of just spreading nonsense, you would see that all of them are comming from scammers/spammers that got tagged by Lauda/Vod and now are retaliating with false feedbacks. You probably did the same, which is the reason why you made this post.

They have 20x more negative comments than positive yet you tell us not to trust those? lol

"Probably" is the best thing you could of said huh

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Those "feedbacks" are called "untrusted" and are hidden by default for a reason: THEY SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED.

If you really check those feedbacks instead of just spreading nonsense, you would see that all of them are comming from scammers/spammers that got tagged by Lauda/Vod and now are retaliating with false feedbacks. You probably did the same, which is the reason why you made this post.

They have 20x more negative comments than positive yet you tell us not to trust those? lol

"Probably" is the best thing you could of said huh

Yea but thing is in most cases they just revealed other users scam practice (or became pain in the ass in other ways) and such feedback is just sort of revenge.
But they actually never stole any funds from anybody. Which is what I consider the trust system is here for  ... to mark the real fund stealing scammers rather than just people who argue to much.

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September 25, 2017, 11:47:48 PM
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I think the negative trust comment we are seeing there those people who angry with lauda and vod.. if you receive negative trust from him i think you will be angry and giving him too a negative trust mostly this is happening if they didn't accepted that they caught  of stealing something here or any bad habits that against DT rules..  
But checking his negative trust i think he gave some proof before you receive negative trust unlike who are giving not valid negative trust. .
You account would be still stay as normal trust.

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September 26, 2017, 01:48:40 AM
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I think the negative trust comment we are seeing there those people who angry with lauda and vod.. if you receive negative trust from him i think you will be angry and giving him too a negative trust mostly this is happening if they didn't accepted that they caught  of stealing something here or any bad habits that against DT rules..  
But checking his negative trust i think he gave some proof before you receive negative trust unlike who are giving not valid negative trust. .
You account would be still stay as normal trust.

Have you even read through their negative comments? It's not just angry people... it's people who have lost money and items due to their scams!

Forum moderators have been notified countless times and they never do anything about it. These are just facts. Next time you should read more closely before writing something here.

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September 26, 2017, 07:28:07 AM
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Have you even read through their negative comments? It's not just angry people... it's people who have lost money and items due to their scams!
If you are this naive, you are going to have a *fun* life and should leave the crypto ecosystem right away. Not a single one of those ratings is true/warranted.

Forum moderators have been notified countless times and they never do anything about it.
Which has nothing to do with the trust system to begin with.

These are just facts.
Fiction.

Next time you should read more closely before writing something here.
Next time don't act shady and you won't be tagged. You claim that Vod demanded money for the removal of his rating, which is absolutely untrue and then you proceed to claim that those negative ratings on us are true? Idiot. Roll Eyes

They have stolen Antminer D3s from a new user last week as part of a group effort - they talked the new user into shipping them D3s with payment being sent when the miners were received. Of course the new member never received his money for the miners - now he lost 2 x Antminer D3.
I was initially hesitant on calling you out as an idiot, but that's just me being too lenient. Quoted and tagged again.

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September 26, 2017, 07:34:30 AM
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I think the negative trust comment we are seeing there those people who angry with lauda and vod.. if you receive negative trust from him i think you will be angry and giving him too a negative trust mostly this is happening if they didn't accepted that they caught  of stealing something here or any bad habits that against DT rules..  
But checking his negative trust i think he gave some proof before you receive negative trust unlike who are giving not valid negative trust. .
You account would be still stay as normal trust.

Have you even read through their negative comments? It's not just angry people... it's people who have lost money and items due to their scams!

Forum moderators have been notified countless times and they never do anything about it. These are just facts. Next time you should read more closely before writing something here.


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BitMaxz:
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Trust: 10: -0 / +1

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Trust: -4: -2 / +0

Who to take seriously, who to trust here...  Roll Eyes

Dude (@BitmastersINC), if those are "facts", where is the proof? You see, that is the difference with the feedback Lauda and Vod post and the "negative comments" [fiction] you're talking about...

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September 26, 2017, 11:13:10 AM
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 Shocked We are just here to sell miners that's all. You guys can troll all you want on our threads every time you do it gives us a bump. Now everyone is warned about Vod & Lauda. Let the users make their own decisions based on what they see.

Glad to see that the mods don't delete the post. At least they allow the word to get out about these individuals.

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September 26, 2017, 11:17:04 AM
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OP - you are a liar.  You claimed I asked for money to remove negative feedback, which I never did.

Cry yourself to sleep.

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September 26, 2017, 06:22:58 PM
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Those "feedbacks" are called "untrusted" and are hidden by default for a reason: THEY SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED.

If you really check those feedbacks instead of just spreading nonsense, you would see that all of them are comming from scammers/spammers that got tagged by Lauda/Vod and now are retaliating with false feedbacks. You probably did the same, which is the reason why you made this post.

They have 20x more negative comments than positive yet you tell us not to trust those? lol

"Probably" is the best thing you could of said huh

Um....so do you?  Roll Eyes By your "logic", you need to leave yourself a Negative with one of your alts.

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September 26, 2017, 08:22:06 PM
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Vod's and Lauda's feedbacks are generally pretty accurate.  No one is perfect, but both of them are on the default trust list for a reason.

The trust system here is incredibly fucked up.  When there's no checks and balances, and when the best members have the worst feedback, you know it's messed up.  But I'd still trust either one of those two with bitcoins.  That whole extortion thing with Lauda was blown way, way out of proportion by Quickseller and...quickseller's legion of alt accounts.  Talk about someone who's not to be trusted.



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September 28, 2017, 01:10:48 AM
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Vod's and Lauda's feedbacks are generally pretty accurate.  No one is perfect, but both of them are on the default trust list for a reason.

The trust system here is incredibly fucked up.  When there's no checks and balances, and when the best members have the worst feedback, you know it's messed up.  But I'd still trust either one of those two with bitcoins.  That whole extortion thing with Lauda was blown way, way out of proportion by Quickseller and...quickseller's legion of alt accounts.  Talk about someone who's not to be trusted.

What reason? They have stolen miners from people. You have something good to say about them?

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They have stolen miners from people.
Do you have any kind of proof of this?

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These guys are fruit loops. Ignore them, they refused to use escrow and are using alts to booster trust ratings.

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September 28, 2017, 05:56:09 AM
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They have stolen miners from people.
Do you have any kind of proof of this?

OP - now is your chance.

Submit your proof to Quickseller that Lauda and I stole miners from people; he will have us kicked off the forum and your negative trust will go back to zero. 


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September 28, 2017, 07:31:22 AM
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They have stolen miners from people.
Do you have any kind of proof of this?

OP - now is your chance.

Submit your proof to Quickseller that Lauda and I stole miners from people; he will have us kicked off the forum and your negative trust will go back to zero. 



Vod I have to say farewell now, it looks like you and Lauda will be departing this forum soon due to OP's evidence submission that is sure to happen.  Must be really scary....  Grin Grin

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September 28, 2017, 08:27:44 AM
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They have stolen miners from people.
Do you have any kind of proof of this?

OP - now is your chance.

Submit your proof to Quickseller that Lauda and I stole miners from people; he will have us kicked off the forum and your negative trust will go back to zero. 


Hahaha,
go submit the proof buddy, it's your chance, time to show the truth to the community how these people are ripping the scammers by not removing their rating.



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Vod's and Lauda's feedbacks are generally pretty accurate.  No one is perfect, but both of them are on the default trust list for a reason.

The trust system here is incredibly fucked up.  When there's no checks and balances, and when the best members have the worst feedback, you know it's messed up.  But I'd still trust either one of those two with bitcoins.  That whole extortion thing with Lauda was blown way, way out of proportion by Quickseller and...quickseller's legion of alt accounts.  Talk about someone who's not to be trusted.
What reason? They have stolen miners from people. You have something good to say about them?
I've stopped mining before you even knew that "cryptocurrencies" were a thing. Therefore,


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You have to click the little "Show ratings" button in the middle of the page to see these comments! Not easy for new users to pick up on it. It appears as if these two users are old, reputable and trusted. But just look at what 99% of their actual feedback says. They are scum bags to say the least.

All the feedbacks in the "Untrusted feedbacks" section are either from those who are red tagged or from the one's who have no positive trust ratings themselves, that is the reason why they are categorized as "Untrusted feedbacks" because they have no meaning at all. Even i can post a negative feedback on your profile, saying that you scammed me for 2 bitcoins, and this feedback will get a place in "Untrusted feedbacks" which won't have any effect on your account nor someone will believe my comment at all. So this is all shit, but nothing true. A feedback that is to be noticed does not need to be checked in "Untrusted feedbacks", but it will appear infront of you when you open someone's trust page.



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September 28, 2017, 10:57:48 AM
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[...] They [Vod & Lauda] have stolen miners from people.

Huh?!? Let me remind you...

[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] evidence [...]
[...] proof [...]

Catch our drift, buddy? You're lack of providing such speaks for itself, doesn't it...  Huh

In other fora people - like you - are banned for less... please, provide your proof.

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Somehow, I fell into the under belly of the forums  Grin

Seems to me, many users can be thoroughly vetted and scrutinized for trust . . but indeed, I could wrong.  I have engaged in peer-to-peer sales with a few members now, and each time the transaction went through smooth.  Not a particular member on this post though.  Anyways, this thread caught my eye . . . like I'm sure it did others.  I wouldn't just take someones word for it about scamming, and the opposite is true.  I wouldn't take someones word based on their words alone.  

I think that there is "untrusted feedback" for a reason.

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BUMP TO HELP NEW MEMBERS STOP LOSING THEIR MONEY (AND STUFF)

Negatives are from extortionist check post 4 info
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BUMP TO HELP NEW MEMBERS STOP LOSING THEIR MONEY (AND STUFF)

Huh?!? Let me remind you once more...

[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] evidence [...]
[...] proof [...]

You're lack of providing proof is starting to get noticeable.

Please, provide your proof.

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Why people like OP aren't receiving more negative ratings is quite puzzling. They deserve a lot more.

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Op is a liar. End of
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bump to help new users not lose their money

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bump to help new users not lose their money

You have officially lost all credibility:

BUMP TO HELP NEW MEMBERS STOP LOSING THEIR MONEY (AND STUFF)

Huh?!? Let me remind you once more...

[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] evidence [...]
[...] proof [...]

You're lack of providing proof is starting to get noticeable.

Please, provide your proof.

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bump to help new users not lose their money
You have officially lost all credibility:
It is: 1) Stupid to imply that OP had any credibility to begin with. 2) Pointless to keep asking him for proof, which: a) Does not exist. b) When OP tags someone as a "scammer" when they've left him/her a negative rating. Take a look at the latest rating left by hedgy and the retaliatory negative.

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bump to help new users not lose their money
You have officially lost all credibility:
It is: 1) Stupid to imply that OP had any credibility to begin with. 2) Pointless to keep asking him for proof, which: a) Does not exist. b) When OP tags someone as a "scammer" when they've left him/her a negative rating. Take a look at the latest rating left by hedgy and the retaliatory negative.

Nah, it's more of a Pavlov reaction on his "bumping".... just to show anyone who stumbled upon his "bump" that he has no credibility whatsoever...

Yeah, saw it... didn't keep me from negging his @$$...  Grin

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bump to help new users not lose their money
You have officially lost all credibility:
It is: 1) Stupid to imply that OP had any credibility to begin with. 2) Pointless to keep asking him for proof, which: a) Does not exist. b) When OP tags someone as a "scammer" when they've left him/her a negative rating. Take a look at the latest rating left by hedgy and the retaliatory negative.

Nah, it's more of a Pavlov reaction on his "bumping".... just to show anyone who stumbled upon his "bump" that he has no credibility whatsoever...

Yeah, saw it... didn't keep me from negging his @$$...  Grin

bump

Let the new forum members make their own decisions based on this information! We are just trying to help them avoid Lauda & Gang so they don't lose their money (or items).

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bump to help new users not lose their money
You have officially lost all credibility:
It is: 1) Stupid to imply that OP had any credibility to begin with. 2) Pointless to keep asking him for proof, which: a) Does not exist. b) When OP tags someone as a "scammer" when they've left him/her a negative rating. Take a look at the latest rating left by hedgy and the retaliatory negative.

Nah, it's more of a Pavlov reaction on his "bumping".... just to show anyone who stumbled upon his "bump" that he has no credibility whatsoever...

Yeah, saw it... didn't keep me from negging his @$$...  Grin

bump

Let the new forum members make their own decisions based on this information! We are just trying to help them avoid Lauda & Gang so they don't lose their money (or items).

What "information"?!? Where is the proofHuh

bump to help new users not lose their money

You have officially lost all credibility:

BUMP TO HELP NEW MEMBERS STOP LOSING THEIR MONEY (AND STUFF)

Huh?!? Let me remind you once more...

[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] proof [...]
[...] evidence [...]
[...] proof [...]

You're lack of providing proof is starting to get noticeable.

Please, provide your proof.

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bump to help new users not lose their money
You have officially lost all credibility:
It is: 1) Stupid to imply that OP had any credibility to begin with. 2) Pointless to keep asking him for proof, which: a) Does not exist. b) When OP tags someone as a "scammer" when they've left him/her a negative rating. Take a look at the latest rating left by hedgy and the retaliatory negative.

Nah, it's more of a Pavlov reaction on his "bumping".... just to show anyone who stumbled upon his "bump" that he has no credibility whatsoever...

Yeah, saw it... didn't keep me from negging his @$$...  Grin

bump

Let the new forum members make their own decisions based on this information! We are just trying to help them avoid Lauda & Gang so they don't lose their money (or items).

Shut up Creep and stop spamming the Forum with your useless shit or I will Whip your ass biatch!
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Savages on this thread!!!!!!!!! LOL
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Can we get this bum out of here?HuhHuh Clearly a scammer hes leaving Neg Rep for honest members, this guy is a Cancer can we please cleanse this place with Chemo???
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Can we get this bum out of here?HuhHuh Clearly a scammer hes leaving Neg Rep for honest members, this guy is a Cancer can we please cleanse this place with Chemo???
Unfortunately, I do not think that will happen. Given that OP refused to use escrow, we can pretty much state with certainty that we've prevented *some* damage (i.e. people from getting scammed). I'm sure that he/she will be back under a new alias though.

This forum is way too lenient towards bullshit, which is one of the reasons why butthurt scammers and criminals of all kids (see Quickseller & co.) as well as shills from shitcoins (see DeepOinion and a few ICOs cryptodevil has busted recently) can damage the forum by spewing bullshit out of spite. Undecided

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bump to help new users from losing their money!!!!!

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bump to help new users from losing their money!!!!!

What a useful bump 1.5 hour after last post. You're ridiculous ( this entire post is ) and you deserve the red trust.
If you are not able to understand basic principles how deals are made on this forum ( show proof, accept escrow ...) you should better get out of here.

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well this is a thread about REPUTATION and this Assclown has -16 LOL

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So where have you gone Mr BitmastersINC? Dissapeared into nowhere land and just appearing to post more scams with new accounts?

Fuck off back under the rock you came from you waste of fucking air.
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So where have you gone Mr BitmastersINC? Dissapeared into nowhere land and just appearing to post more scams with new accounts?

Fuck off back under the rock you came from you waste of fucking air.

*sigh* Just leave this guy alone. Everyone knows he is full of shit. The more you reply to his topic the more of a winner he feels. Its sad and pathetic, yet true - there is nothing against Lauda and Vod that can be said. They both take good care of the community and try to make it as clean as possible.

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